How it all makes sense

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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby thinkdr » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:44 am

As we want it all to make sense we look to nature.

What can nature teach us? Let's explore this together.

As we look at nature the main thing we see is diversity. Nature has produced millions and millions of different species. And even these are experiments: some lay their eggs in a womb, some on the ground to be sat upon, some in a pocket in the abdominal region. Some, as soon as they mate, sever the throat of the male who fertilized them, and the male spider puts up with this. Some hear with their tongue instead of with ears. Etc. Etc.

What lesson is there for us humans in all this diversity? What can we learn from it?

I'd like to hear your views on the matter?
What do you think?
:idea: For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment

THE STRUCTURE OF ETHICS
[NEW] :!:
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/TH ... ETHICS.pdf


THE BREAKTHROUGH - We Can Get Along After All (2018)
http://myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BREAKT ... %20all.pdf

LIVING WELL: how ethics helps us flourish
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/LI ... ourish.pdf


BASIC ETHICS: a systematic approach
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BASIC%20ETHICS.pdf


ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

When you Google the following pdf selection you may wish to start with page 20 in order to skip the technicalities:
Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby thinkdr » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:14 am

As I consider and ponder the question: "What can we learn from the diversity in nature?" here is my view.

Nature engages in trial-and-error experimentation. To come out a winner in this project is to adapt. If we observe carefully we note an enormous variety of species created and/or evolved. Those that adapt survive and flourish, those that don't head toward extinction. Hundreds and thousands of species have gone extinct. Could the human species be heading toward extinction?

You bet it could! Why? Due to the man-made global disaster and devastation euphemistically known as The Climate Crisis.

Whether it will be through the pressure of more climate-refugees; or because of the cost of fires and floods and wind damage; or because we can't bear the extreme heat conditions that are coming -- correction: that are already here for Greenland, where its glaciers are rapidly melting -- whether it is any one of these or a combination of several, we will pay for attacking Mother Nature. The expense alone for air conditioning as we attempt to keep cool could impoverish us. The warming of our oceans is causing more intense, and more frequent, severe hurricanes.

All of this is avoidable if we pull carbon out of our atmosphere, if we quickly plant more trees, if we stop cutting down the Amazon Forest. It would help greatly too if we switch to electric cars, if we become vegetarians, if we remodel building to conserve energy, if we have a massive drive to convert over to clean, green renewable sources of energy such as wind, solar, tidal, and geothermal, if we develop and make widely available the batteries to store the power. These batteries have already been invented; we need the mass-production of them.

Let's get busy !!! Let's prevent our near-extinction.

Let's urgently develop a problem-solving attitude.
1) Face up to the actual situation.
2) Define more-and-more-exactly the problem.
3) Cooperate on getting to the goal, on working together.

Quite a bit is already known about project management; and about starting with the goal and in our imagination figuring out the small steps, working backward from the goal, spelling out the steps that lead up to it; then going forward together to implement these steps. We work out the the most-efficient Critical Path. We at least re-join, as a very first step, The Paris Climate Accords; and we support the efforts and offer leadership as a role-model.

So -- what are we waiting for? Let's make the human species a winner!
Let's adapt by evolving further in the direction indicated in the writings linked to in the Signature below. Let's become Ethical.
:idea: For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment

THE STRUCTURE OF ETHICS
[NEW] :!:
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/TH ... ETHICS.pdf


THE BREAKTHROUGH - We Can Get Along After All (2018)
http://myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BREAKT ... %20all.pdf

LIVING WELL: how ethics helps us flourish
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/LI ... ourish.pdf


BASIC ETHICS: a systematic approach
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BASIC%20ETHICS.pdf


ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

When you Google the following pdf selection you may wish to start with page 20 in order to skip the technicalities:
Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby Meno_ » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:44 am

thinkdr wrote:As I consider and ponder the question: "What can we learn from the diversity in nature?" here is my view.

Nature engages in trial-and-error experimentation. To come out a winner in this project is to adapt. If we observe carefully we note an enormous variety of species created and/or evolved. Those that adapt survive and flourish, those that don't head toward extinction. Hundreds and thousands of species have gone extinct. Could the human species be heading toward extinction?

You bet it could! Why? Due to the man-made global disaster and devastation euphemistically known as The Climate Crisis.

Whether it will be through the pressure of more climate-refugees; or because of the cost of fires and floods and wind damage; or because we can't bear the extreme heat conditions that are coming -- correction: that are already here for Greenland, where its glaciers are rapidly melting -- whether it is any one of these or a combination of several, we will pay for attacking Mother Nature. The expense alone for air conditioning as we attempt to keep cool could impoverish us. The warming of our oceans is causing more intense, and more frequent, severe hurricanes.

All of this is avoidable if we pull carbon out of our atmosphere, if we quickly plant more trees, if we stop cutting down the Amazon Forest. It would help greatly too if we switch to electric cars, if we become vegetarians, if we remodel building to conserve energy, if we have a massive drive to convert over to clean, green renewable sources of energy such as wind, solar, tidal, and geothermal, if we develop and make widely available the batteries to store the power. These batteries have already been invented; we need the mass-production of them.

Let's get busy !!! Let's prevent our near-extinction.

Let's urgently develop a problem-solving attitude.
1) Face up to the actual situation.
2) Define more-and-more-exactly the problem.
3) Cooperate on getting to the goal, on working together.

Quite a bit is already known about project management; and about starting with the goal and in our imagination figuring out the small steps, working backward from the goal, spelling out the steps that lead up to it; then going forward together to implement these steps. We work out the the most-efficient Critical Path. We at least re-join, as a very first step, The Paris Climate Accords; and we support the efforts and offer leadership as a role-model.

So -- what are we waiting for? Let's make the human species a winner!
Let's adapt by evolving further in the direction indicated in the writings linked to in the Signature below. Let's become Ethical.



Sure! Just as technology overcomes understanding it's useful derivitive, humanity will misunderstand the political economic basis of it's effect on survival to prevent extinction

The ethical relativity that has risen out of moral absolutism. enables unwarranted short gutted adaptations,
which are constructed to disguise short term gaines which dispense with the sensible distribution and allocation of values.
There really is no amount of quality time by which to arrive at utilization of natural energy to transportation , and meat production, for these are the main culprits.
So solving these can enable hands on tools by which the sensible can adapt a general sense of apathy, of those, whose terrors of diminished short gained profits , are more threatening then the thought of socially perceived panic, a generation or such in the future.
The economic social short cutter fear of diminishing returns is down to the catastrophic wire of losing the cutting edge of a world system that does not adhere and accept the very factoring in of this fear as an incentive.

The feedback inversely effects the gap which grows at increasing rates, as this incentive fails to produce at an appropriate rate, to transact value, and this is why the powers to be are adamant and resentful to the actions if the Federal Reserve.


The U.S. Fed's manipulation of interest rates is akin to what the Chinese are doing fractionally, by adjusting the value of their current pur having power, and Trump's fight with it is cintradicorily political, inasmuch that The Federal Reserve serves primarily international gained over national ones, as it was not granted legimate institutional entity, in the first place.


It is probably due to a distrust of the Eastern Empire , China, who have the gaul to operate both political systems simultaneously , perhaps compensationally, to offset the unilateralism of the Western Empire, the U.S..
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby thinkdr » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:26 pm

Hi, Meno

Thanks for clearing up any misunderstanding people may have had about the political economic basis.
:idea: For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment

THE STRUCTURE OF ETHICS
[NEW] :!:
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/TH ... ETHICS.pdf


THE BREAKTHROUGH - We Can Get Along After All (2018)
http://myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BREAKT ... %20all.pdf

LIVING WELL: how ethics helps us flourish
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/LI ... ourish.pdf


BASIC ETHICS: a systematic approach
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BASIC%20ETHICS.pdf


ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

When you Google the following pdf selection you may wish to start with page 20 in order to skip the technicalities:
Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:13 am

thinkdr wrote:As I consider and ponder the question: "What can we learn from the diversity in nature?" here is my view.

Nature engages in trial-and-error experimentation. To come out a winner in this project is to adapt. If we observe carefully we note an enormous variety of species created and/or evolved. Those that adapt survive and flourish, those that don't head toward extinction. Hundreds and thousands of species have gone extinct. Could the human species be heading toward extinction?

You bet it could! Why? Due to the man-made global disaster and devastation euphemistically known as The Climate Crisis.

Whether it will be through the pressure of more climate-refugees; or because of the cost of fires and floods and wind damage; or because we can't bear the extreme heat conditions that are coming -- correction: that are already here for Greenland, where its glaciers are rapidly melting -- whether it is any one of these or a combination of several, we will pay for attacking Mother Nature. The expense alone for air conditioning as we attempt to keep cool could impoverish us. The warming of our oceans is causing more intense, and more frequent, severe hurricanes.

All of this is avoidable if we pull carbon out of our atmosphere, if we quickly plant more trees, if we stop cutting down the Amazon Forest. It would help greatly too if we switch to electric cars, if we become vegetarians, if we remodel building to conserve energy, if we have a massive drive to convert over to clean, green renewable sources of energy such as wind, solar, tidal, and geothermal, if we develop and make widely available the batteries to store the power. These batteries have already been invented; we need the mass-production of them.

Let's get busy !!! Let's prevent our near-extinction.

Let's urgently develop a problem-solving attitude.
1) Face up to the actual situation.
2) Define more-and-more-exactly the problem.
3) Cooperate on getting to the goal, on working together.

Quite a bit is already known about project management; and about starting with the goal and in our imagination figuring out the small steps, working backward from the goal, spelling out the steps that lead up to it; then going forward together to implement these steps. We work out the the most-efficient Critical Path. We at least re-join, as a very first step, The Paris Climate Accords; and we support the efforts and offer leadership as a role-model.

So -- what are we waiting for? Let's make the human species a winner!
Let's adapt by evolving further in the direction indicated in the writings linked to in the Signature below. Let's become Ethical.

This is what political social terrorism looks like.
When did terrorism become ethical?
As soon as it became politically expedient - "give us ALL authority over your entire life and demand it from everyone otherwise YOU are a BAD person and the BOOGIE MAN is going to get us all!".
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:45 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:This is what political social terrorism looks like.
When did terrorism become ethical?
When and where and by whom was it ever not used and considered ethical by them?
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby thinkdr » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:49 am

obsrvr524 wrote:
thinkdr wrote:As I consider and ponder the question: "What can we learn from the diversity in nature?" here is my view.

Nature engages in trial-and-error experimentation. ... Let's be aware of the man-made global disaster and devastation euphemistically known as The Climate Crisis ....Be conscious of the fact that warming of our oceans is causing more intense, and more frequent, severe hurricanes.

All of this may still be avoidable if we pull carbon out of our atmosphere......
...Let's urgently develop a problem-solving attitude.
1) Face up to the actual situation.
2) Define more-and-more-exactly the problem.
3) Cooperate on getting to the goal, on working together

So -- what are we waiting for? Let's make the human species a winner!
Let's adapt by evolving further in the direction indicated in the writings linked to in the Signature below. Let's become Ethical.


obsrvr524 wrote:
This is what political social terrorism looks like.
When did terrorism become ethical?
As soon as it became politically expedient - "give us ALL authority over your entire life and demand it from everyone otherwise YOU are a BAD person and the BOOGIE MAN is going to get us all!".


Terrorism did not become ethical.
How is encouraging people to develop a problem-solving attitude "terrorism"?

How is writing a blog with the view of heightening awareness that future generations are likely going to be uncomfortable due to a climate crisis; and claiming that extreme climate events are costly here and now; how is that "terrorism"?

What will cause the unnecessary discomfort? The man-made attack on our environment, the global disaster and devastation known as "Climate Change." This is due to the Greenhouse Effect: too much Carbon in the atmosphere. It is causing glaciers to melt in the Arctic and Antarctic. It is hurting the habitat of polar bears and artic seals. The forest fires that burn down homes proves costly. Etc.

These are facts. If one feels terrorized by hearing the truth that is his problem. I gave a call to action. I recommended we study Ethics. I even proposed that we become more ethical. If that is "terrorism," then the writer is guilty.

How do (some of) the rest of you 10,000 readers feel about this? How do you who have actually read and studied in full one of the essays in the Signature think about these matters?
Speak up !
Surely you also have an opinion.....
:idea: For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment

THE STRUCTURE OF ETHICS
[NEW] :!:
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/TH ... ETHICS.pdf


THE BREAKTHROUGH - We Can Get Along After All (2018)
http://myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BREAKT ... %20all.pdf

LIVING WELL: how ethics helps us flourish
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/LI ... ourish.pdf


BASIC ETHICS: a systematic approach
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BASIC%20ETHICS.pdf


ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

When you Google the following pdf selection you may wish to start with page 20 in order to skip the technicalities:
Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby obsrvr524 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:25 pm

thinkdr wrote:Terrorism did not become ethical.

Then why are you preaching it? I thought you promoted ethics.
thinkdr wrote:How is encouraging people to develop a problem-solving attitude "terrorism"?

How is writing a blog with the view of heightening awareness that future generations are likely going to be uncomfortable due to a climate crisis; and claiming that extreme climate events are costly here and now; how is that "terrorism"?

It is also called "Scare tactics" although when applied to the entire population, it is literally political social terrorism used to establish political power over societies (just ask the Muslims).

Promoting a false alarm to an entire population, especially when creating an incident to embolden the idea, is what terrorism is.

The problem, obviously, is that you drank the koolaid. And now you serve to spread the fear. That is a far cry from being ethical.
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:00 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:The problem, obviously, is that you drank the koolaid. And now you serve to spread the fear. That is a far cry from being ethical.
Show him how it's koolaid, otherwise it will just seem like you slapped him for no reason. Generally terrorist know they want people to be afraid and not so that they do things that are good for them. So, show him that global warming is a hoax. Start a thread or do it here.
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:49 am

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:The problem, obviously, is that you drank the koolaid. And now you serve to spread the fear. That is a far cry from being ethical.
Show him how it's koolaid, otherwise it will just seem like you slapped him for no reason. Generally terrorist know they want people to be afraid and not so that they do things that are good for them. So, show him that global warming is a hoax. Start a thread or do it here.

Normally that would be good advice. But in this case, due to the extreme degree of social deception and manipulation that has overtaken the West, proving any of their hoaxes would be like proving that there is no meteor headed toward Earth to destroy it. Unless you have your own telescope, you cannot know how much of a lie you have been told.

Everyone has their bubble of belief. Take care who it is that is forming it. Consider an alternative. There is actually zero evidence, scientific or otherwise, that the climate is at risk by human endeavors. And even if there was, China, Russia, and the US liberal socialist democrats couldn't care less. To them it is all about and only about the power to dictate without fear of refutation. That means that who ever accepts the narrative is merely the first to die out.

Make people more confused, tell them a scary story, and then watch them run to you for salvation. It isn't exactly a new formula. It is just bigger this time.

Every 10 years or so, mainstream media espouses the same story about how scientists predict the end of the world for one reason or another. And when nothing happens, they just do it again and again. To those actually paying any attention, it is a "cry wolf" and "the sky is falling" story wrapped up in one. But with each effort they gain a little more power.
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby thinkdr » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:11 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote: Show him that global warming is a hoax. Start a thread or do it here.


Greetings, Karpel

He can't. He can't because the Climate Crisis is not a hoax. The world's leading climatologists have warned us all that if the atmosphere gets filled with a little more Carbon Dioxide the crisis situation will be irreversible. I am just passing on what I learned from those scientists who specialize in studying climate.


It all makes sense unless one is dealing with a cultist, a follower of Jim Jones, or of Donald Trump. Then none of it makes sense, for people find that it is nearly impossible to communicate rationally with a supporter of Donald Trump. You can tell who they are because they engage in the defense mechanism which psychologists have named: Projection.
:idea: For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment

THE STRUCTURE OF ETHICS
[NEW] :!:
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/TH ... ETHICS.pdf


THE BREAKTHROUGH - We Can Get Along After All (2018)
http://myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BREAKT ... %20all.pdf

LIVING WELL: how ethics helps us flourish
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/LI ... ourish.pdf


BASIC ETHICS: a systematic approach
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BASIC%20ETHICS.pdf


ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

When you Google the following pdf selection you may wish to start with page 20 in order to skip the technicalities:
Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby thinkdr » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:21 am

For those not familiar with the psychological concept "projection," I will add this:

The Encyclopedia Brittanica informs us that
"Projection is a form of defense in which unwanted feelings are displaced onto another person, where they then appear as a threat from the external world. A common form of projection occurs when an individual, threatened by his own angry feelings, accuses another of harbouring hostile thoughts."


As an example, if the one with such feelings believes (or even, deep-down, suspects) he or she may "have drunk some koolaid" then that party will accuse you of it. And then perceive it as a threat coming from you.


A study of Ethics helps us understand these mechanisms and frailties of the human being. It sensitizes us to quickly notice when something is not quite right, morally speaking. It encourages us not to be judgmental, but instead to forgive, and to be humble. Everyone of us can be wrong.

That too is why all the findings of the Unified Theory of Ethics are highly tentative, and subject to upgrading when something better comes along. As you read these selections linked to below keep that in mind.
If you know of better ethical theory be sure to let us know. Share your insight with us, please.
:idea: For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment

THE STRUCTURE OF ETHICS
[NEW] :!:
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/TH ... ETHICS.pdf


THE BREAKTHROUGH - We Can Get Along After All (2018)
http://myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BREAKT ... %20all.pdf

LIVING WELL: how ethics helps us flourish
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/LI ... ourish.pdf


BASIC ETHICS: a systematic approach
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BASIC%20ETHICS.pdf


ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

When you Google the following pdf selection you may wish to start with page 20 in order to skip the technicalities:
Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:36 am

obsrvr524 wrote:
Karpel Tunnel wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:The problem, obviously, is that you drank the koolaid. And now you serve to spread the fear. That is a far cry from being ethical.
Show him how it's koolaid, otherwise it will just seem like you slapped him for no reason. Generally terrorist know they want people to be afraid and not so that they do things that are good for them. So, show him that global warming is a hoax. Start a thread or do it here.

Normally that would be good advice. But in this case, due to the extreme degree of social deception and manipulation that has overtaken the West, proving any of their hoaxes would be like proving that there is no meteor headed toward Earth to destroy it. Unless you have your own telescope, you cannot know how much of a lie you have been told.
But then there's no reason to bring it up. Why thrust it at him`?
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby thinkdr » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:34 am

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Thanks for your support, K.T.

Here is a video which many of you may find interesting. It is an interview of an author who had just released a book on the connections between happiness, well-being, and government:

https://charlierose.com/videos/15981

Check it out

As you know, "happiness" is a concept relevant to Ethics; as is also "well-being." And "good government" is an idea relevant to Social Ethics - which is one of the branches of Ethics.

Readers: Your views on any of these topics are quite welcome :!:
:idea: For further reading and insight into the topics of Ethics check out these links, and thereby add to your reading enjoyment

THE STRUCTURE OF ETHICS
[NEW] :!:
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/TH ... ETHICS.pdf


THE BREAKTHROUGH - We Can Get Along After All (2018)
http://myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BREAKT ... %20all.pdf

LIVING WELL: how ethics helps us flourish
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/LI ... ourish.pdf


BASIC ETHICS: a systematic approach
http://www.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/BASIC%20ETHICS.pdf


ETHICAL ADVENTURES http://wadeharvey.myqol.com/wadeharvey/PDFs/ETHICAL%20ADVENTURES.pdf

When you Google the following pdf selection you may wish to start with page 20 in order to skip the technicalities:
Marvin C. Katz - ETHICS: A College Course
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Re: How it all makes sense

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:43 pm

Karpel Tunnel wrote:But then there's no reason to bring it up. Why thrust it at him`?

Why bring up the idea that someone is spreading terrorism and a particular type of terrorism that carries with it extremely dangerous consequences (total loss of political freedoms for all time)?

Gee, let me think. Why do we care if someone yells "FIRE" in a crowded theater?

I wonder if you would have objected to the rumor that Mohamed had ascended the mountain. Think about the consequences of that rumor.
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