a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:46 am

tiny nietzsche

who are you going to lie to if you can't lie to yourself?


About, for example, God being a progressive Christian.

I can't stop knowing you

No, not you of course.

forget to the point

Really, this works sometimes.

sexy nihilist voice "hey"

Yep, I fell for it.

mama don't let your babies grow up to be documentarians

After that, it's still cowboys.

her: what do you do for a living
me: mostly I reject all religious and moral principles, in the belief that life is meaningless
her: oh unemployed


Or, like me, retired.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:55 am

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:13 pm

Lawrence M. Krauss

A universe without purpose should neither depress us nor suggest that our lives are purposeless. Through an awe-inspiring cosmic history we find ourselves on this remote planet in a remote corner of the universe, endowed with intelligence and self-awareness. We should not despair, but should humbly rejoice in making the most of these gifts, and celebrate our brief moment in the sun.


Among other things, "yeah, right".

The lack of understanding of something is not evidence for God. It's evidence of a lack of understanding.

Unless of course it still all goes back to God.

The one experience that I hope every student has at some point in their lives is to have some belief you profoundly, deeply hold, proved to be wrong because that is the most eye-opening experience you can have, and as a scientist, to me, is the most exciting experience I can ever have.

Let's just say that's what I'm here for.

Without science, everything is a miracle.

And, for some things, even with it.

In 5 billion years, the expansion of the universe will have progressed to the point where all other galaxies will have receded beyond detection. Indeed, they will be receding faster than the speed of light, so detection will be impossible. Future civilizations will discover science and all its laws, and never know about other galaxies or the cosmic background radiation. They will inevitably come to the wrong conclusion about the universe......We live in a special time, the only time, where we can observationally verify that we live in a special time.

Like he can actually know this for sure.

The writers of the holy books did not even know the earth revolves around the sun. Why are we listening?

Just off the top of my head: Immortality? After all, see if knowing the earth revolves around the sun stems oblivion.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:09 pm

Ralph Nader

Capitalism will always survive, because socialism will be there to save it.


Now that Communism is for all practical purposes kaput.

Power has to be insecure to be responsive.

Yeah, and it's now quaking in its boots, right?

Looking at virtual reality through computer screens, video game screens, and above all television screens is a denial of personality development. It's a denial of socialization, of expansion of vocabulary, of interaction with real human beings.

And here we're just getting started.

The corporations have become our government. They're not just influential. Department by department, you name it, they put their people in high government positions, they have 10,000 PACs and 35,000 lobbyists, so there's no more opening to be heard.

And here they're just getting started.

We have a Democratic Party that cannot defend the American people from the worst Republican Party in history because it's a Democratic Party of war and Wall Street.

So don't forget to vote.

I once said to my father, when I was a boy, 'Dad we need a third political party.' He said to me, 'I'll settle for a second.'

Would you dad say that?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:43 am

so sad today

i like to greet the new day by going back to bed


Or not greet it at all and go back to bed.

so you think you can go a day without overthinking

Seriously, Mr. Philosopher.

spoiler: your parents fucked you up

Let's just say that some of us get even.

me on FB: what the fuck is wrong with these oversharers?!
me on twitter: my pussy is feeling very emotional this afternoon


Can this be made sense of?

well well well if it isn’t excruciating self-doubt

If not right on time.

confusing sexual attraction with love and it’s fine

Why -- how -- would it be otherwise?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:21 pm

Robert M. Pirsig

When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called a Religion.


And, no, not excluding progressive Christians. :wink:

The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.

That ever actually happened to you?

You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it's going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt.

Of course as we all know the sun doesn't really rise at all.

Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive.

My guess: It depends on the destination.

Is it hard?
Not if you have the right attitudes. Its having the right attitudes thats hard.


No, sometimes with greatest fucking attitude in the world, it's still hard. Or even impossible.

In a car you're always in a compartment, and because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV. You're a passive observer and it is all moving by you boringly in a frame.
On a cycle the frame is gone. You're completely in contact with it all. You're in the scene, not just watching it anymore, and the sense of presence is overwhelming.


Let's run this by promethean.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:53 pm

Pythagoras

Practice justice in word and deed, and do not get in the habit of acting thoughtlessly about anything.


In your head as it were.

Salt is born of the purest parents: the sun and the sea.

Unless of course you have high blood pressure.

Animals share with us the privilege of having a soul.

If less grandiose.

The experience of life in a finite, limited body is specifically for the purpose of discovering and manifesting supernatural existence.

Nope, nothing yet.

I would have to say the probability of us dying seems extremely high.

Well, the guy was a fucking genius.

Wisdom, thoroughly learned, will never be forgotten.

Just what we need, another bromide.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:55 am

so sad today

sorry but the password must contain a fear of feelings


Does yours?

why does everything you do annoy me so much? an investigation

Here starting with the Kids.

remember when i thought I knew you but I didn’t know you at all

Not to mention the other way around.

nothing comes between me and my paranoia

In fact, nothing can.

i may not sleep at night but at least i have unexplained headaches

Let's make sense of this.

me: gonna quickly watch a porn and masturbate
me five hours later: i’ve narrowed it down to ten finalists to possibly cum to


So, it's not just a male thing?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:52 pm

Whoopi Goldberg

It never occurs to me that there are things I can't do.


Yes, people say preposterous things like this all the time.

Art and life are subjective. Not everybody's gonna dig what I dig, but I reserve the right to dig it.

That sounds about right.

Normal is in the eye of the beholder.

Not unlike abnormal.

I don't have pet peeves like some people. I have whole kennels of irritation.

If not downright rage.

That's the thing about Mother Nature, she really doesn't care what economic bracket you're in.

She's like that this way.

I don't look like Halle Berry. But chances are, she's going to end up looking like me.

Okay, but for your whole fucking life?!
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:26 pm

Philosophy Tweets

“There is an infinite amount of hope in the universe ... but not for us.” Franz Kafka


Yeah, Kid, including you.

“The least deviation from truth will be multiplied later. ” Aristotle

Going all the way back to Adam and Eve, right?

"To rule by fettering the mind through fear of punishment in another world is just as base as to use force." Hypatia

Not counting torture of course.

"One can be the master of what one does, but never of what one feels." Gustave Flaubert

Of what one does? Sure, occasionally.

"Belief in the absolute immorality of Nature, in lack of purpose, and in meaninglessness, is the affect psychologically necessary once belief in God and an essentially moral order is no longer supportable" Nietzsche

Tell me about it.

"It was written I should be loyal to the nightmare of my choice." Joseph Conrad

Written by him no doubt.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:19 pm

Woody Guthrie

I like to write about wherever I happen to be.


What's he writing about now, I wondered.

Now as through this world I ramble
I see lots of funny men
Some rob you with a six gun
And some with a fountain pen


And it's only a hell of a lot worse now.

This machine kills fascists.

Mine, alas, only makes fools out of objectivists.

If you play more than two chords, you're showing off.

Not counting Jimi Hendrix of course.

I ain't a communist necessarily, but I been in the red all my life.

A play on words, right?

If you want to learn something, just steal it.

Steal from me any time you wish.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:20 pm

Lynda Barry

If it is your time, love will track you down like a cruise missile.


If not love then definitely death

We don't create a fantasy world to escape reality. We create it to be able to stay.

I know that I do.

No matter what, expect the unexpected. And whenever possible be the unexpected.

Trust me: Don't go too far.

Sometimes, I think the only art left for us is slowly peeling the label off a beer bottle while somebody tells you about a dream they had.

Vaguely insightful, isn't it?

When you start to think of the arts as not this thing that is going to get you somewhere in terms of becoming an artist or becoming famous or whatever it is that people do, but rather a way of making being in the world not just bearable, but fascinating, then it starts to get interesting again.

Imagine saying this about philosophy.

What year is it in your imagination?

Whatever year this one isn't.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:19 pm

Philosophy Tweets

If the literature we are reading does not wake us, why then do we read it? A literary work must be an ice-axe to break the sea frozen inside us." Franz Kafka


Not counting Atlas Shrugged of course.

"Justice is the firm and continuous desire to render to everyone that which is his due." Justinian I

He means you, Kid.

“How much truth can a spirit bear, how much truth can a spirit dare? That became for me the real measure of value.” Friedrich Nietzsche

That can't be good. You know, for most of us.

“Knowledge kills action; action requires the veils of illusion.” Friedrich Nietzsche

No, figure it our for yourself, Mr. Objectivist.

Like all dreamers I confuse disenchantment with truth. Jean Paul Sartre

Either that or sour grapes.

"My thought is me: that's why I can't stop. I exist because I think… and I can't stop myself from thinking. At this very moment - it's frightful - if I exist, it is because I am horrified at existing. I am the one who pulls myself from the nothingness to which I aspire." Jean Paul Sartre

How nauseating, he thought.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:04 pm

Douglas Adams

He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.


Imagine, I might be in your dream and you might be in mine. Or we both might be in Ecmandu's.

I'd far rather be happy than right any day.

Of course we'll need a context.

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

It's probably even bigger than all the peanuts in the world.

You know, said Arthur, it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.
Why, what did she tell you?
I don't know, I didn't listen.


You just never know, right?

For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen.

It finally stopped around 20 minutes later.

I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:
1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.


Let's explain this. Or at least reduce the explanation down to genes or memes.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:16 pm

Bob Dylan

I don't call myself a poet, because I don't like the word.


Let's ask him to define it.

Being on tour is like being in limbo. It's like going from nowhere to nowhere.

And singing to nobodies?

I'm sittin' on my watch so I can be on time.

Uh, cute?

Look out your window, and I'll be gone
You're the reason I'm a-traveling on.


I've been that reason myself a few times.

If you told the truth, that was all well and good and if you told the un-truth, well, that's still well and good. Folk songs had taught me that.

How about rap then?

The people in my songs are all me.

Including Mr. Jones?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:47 pm

Nein

Mid-October. The leaves slowly changing from Tolstoy to Nabokov then back to Dostoevsky.


Imagine them in the dead of Winter. Sam Beckett at the very least.
Or maybe even Emil Cioran.


We regret to inform you about tomorrow. It’s another day.

Same with the day after that, I'm guessing.

I remember when our biggest concern was how to pronounce hegemony.

Back in the days of Henry Kissinger.

Please, friends. Don’t tell people to go to hell. It’ll ruin it for the rest of us.

Here that means the Kids.

Let’s be honest. All of our favorite verbs are irregular.

Not unlike the nouns.

Deleted tweets. The lucky ones.

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:27 pm

Blake Crouch

It’s terrifying when you consider that every thought we have, every choice we could possibly make, branches into a new world.


So, don't consider it.

She has a direct link hardwired from her heart to her mouth. No filter, no self-revision. She says what she feels, without a shred of guile or cunning. She works no angles.

Like that's a good thing?

But it’s all, in the end, just life. We see it macro, like one big story, but when you’re in it, it’s all just day-to-day, right? And isn’t that what you have to make your peace with?

Like you actually can.

I think balance is for people who don’t know why they’re here.

You know, like being normal.

Aren’t we both lost in worlds that, for reasons beyond our control, no longer align with our identity?

See!!

The worst moments of your life you never see coming.

Not counting all the ones you do.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:32 pm

Fiona Apple

I'm not turned on, so put away that meat you're selling.


Like they ever will.

It's a sad, sad world when a girl will break a boy, just because she can.

Not to mention the other way around.

I wouldn't know what to do with another chance if you gave it to me.

Anyone ever give you one?

I don't think what I look like is relevant.

Or, rather, not anymore.

I want to be like the patron saint of reality.

You know, whatever that means.

My mind goes to tragedy first.

First?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:34 pm

Werner Twertzog

Listen, in America, if no one is trying to kill you, you are nobody, really.


Or if you are not trying to kill someone yourself.

They also serve who no longer exist.

Well, we'll see.

"Closure" comes when consciousness ends.

Among other things, literally.

Every defecation is a little death.

I actually wouldn't go that far myself.

To say, "It is not your business," depends upon the outdated notion of personal privacy, as we all know.

You bet we all know.

If your writing does not make people feel stupid and hostile to higher education, then why are you an academic?

You know my own rendition of that here.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:49 pm

Tori Amos

Some of the most wonderful people are the ones who don't fit into boxes.


Of course I'm in one now. You see, it's beyond my control.

The only way out is to go so far in.

We'll need a context of course.

People think I'm nuts because I can sit in a room and be happy by myself.

Is there any other way?

You have to really respect your path, or you will lose your mind.

Or, for some, lose it by staying on it.

I'm not like a poker player. I'm not into bluff. My way is to look someone in the eye and tell them the way I'm intending to go. My cards are always on the table.

You know, being Tori Amos.

The sense of loss is such a tricky one, because we always feel like our worth is tied up into stuff that we have, not that our worth can grow with things we are willing to lose.

I'll bet I've lost more than you.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:27 pm

Neal Stephenson

I made it into Wikipedia, sang Erszebet. I’ll bet none of my enemies ever made it into Wikipedia.


Anyone here make it into wikipedia?

Passing through the utility section she considered getting herself a cup of coffee. Then she felt shock and shame over the fact that she was thinking about coffee while her planet was being set on fire. Then she poured herself a cup of coffee anyway and stepped into the Farm.

That's just how it goes sometimes.

Human nature doesn’t change, Randy. Education is hopeless. The most educated people in the world can turn into Aztecs or Nazis just like that. He snaps his fingers.

Just not you, right?

When Hiro learned how to do this, way back fifteen years ago, a hacker could sit down and write an entire piece of software by himself. Now, that's no longer possible. Software comes out of factories, and hackers are, to a greater or lesser extent, assembly-line workers. Worse yet, they may become managers who never get to write any code themselves.

Anyone here know if this is true? And, if so, why it matters.

Daniel understood the complaint. For Daniel, too, had once designed a building, and savored the thrill of seeing it built, only to endure the long indignity of watching the owner clutter it up with knick-knacks and furniture.

Not unlike, among others, Howard Roark.

...the question hung there like an invisible wall of flatulence...

Not unlike [as often as not] the answer.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:46 pm

Werner Twertzog

So then I said, to Tom Cruise, "Little Melvin, your performance is like Max von Sydow impersonating Kinski on crack." He responded, "My name is not Melvin." But that is what I still call him.


Not only that but Little Melvin is still a fucking Scientologist!

Is God God?

Actually, the devil here is in the details.

All of the stories have been told. All that remains is the untelling of the unstories.

Let's get that ball rolling.

In the U.S., college is important for teaching one to perform complex mathematics on six hours of sleep so that one can get basic healthcare, someday, on five hours of sleep, while paying off one's student loans.

So, how does this work in, say, China?

‘Twas the Night Before Christmas” is, as we all know, a grotesque tale of home invasion.

Unless you count the happy ending. Right boys and girls?

As Frederick Buechner tells us, "Vocation is the place where our deep gladness meets the needs of multi-national corporations."

Of course Frederick Buechner [like the rest of us] says a lot of things.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:59 pm

Miles Davis

My father's rich, my momma's good looking. Right? And I can play the Blues. I've never suffered and don't intend to suffer.


You tell me.

I can tell whether a person can play just by the way he stands.

Right, and with absolutely no exceptions.

I'll play it first and figure out what it's called later.

Of course with jazz you can call it anything.

...people will go for anything they don't understand if it's got enough hype. They want to be hip, want always to be in on the new thing so they don't look unhip. White people are especially like that, particularly when a black person is doing something they don't understand...That's what I thought was happening when Ornette hit town.

Fucking white people again!

I don't pay no attention to what critics say about me, the good or the bad. The toughest critic I got is myself...and I'm too vain to play anything I think is bad.

Would that we could be the same way here.

Play what you know and then play above that.

Or: Post what you know and then post above that.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:52 pm

Jodie Foster

It's an interesting combination: Having a great fear of being alone, and having a desperate need for solitude and the solitary experience. That's always been a tug of war for me.


Me too. And I won.

I don't like it when reviews aren't about the movie. When they're about how much money somebody made, or who they're sleeping with, or if they got the job via some connection, or about how Fox is putting X amount of dollars into it.

Then stay out of Hollywood.

People say as a woman actor your career is over at 40. But then they told me I would never work again after I was 16.

They. It's always what they say.

I was a literature major in college and that was my thing, books.

I figured that.

I make movies about people in spiritual crisis because it's a way for me to spend the time, the energy, the focus and the obsession to come to terms with my own spiritual crisis.

Okay, but just what in the hell is a spiritual crisis?

I was never the ingenue or the pretty girlfriend of Tom Cruise in a movie.

Me neither.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:17 pm

Andrew Sullivan

Personally, I'd rather have pins stuck in my eyes than endure a conversation with John Kerry, but I'd love to hang with Bush.


Personally, I say fuck them both.

I think of these imperial adventures like welfare programs; you start them with all good intentions, they never end, they go on forever and get more expensive as they go on.

Or just let them eat cake.

When I was about eight, I asked my mother if it was true that God knows everything about you. When she answered yes, I said, "Then there's no hope for me, Mum."

Well, some do insist that "God hates fags".

I think sex is completely absurdly demonized in our culture. But in the end, however much sex you want to have, with however many people in how many ways, to be loved and to love is what human beings really want.

You know, after all the bills are paid.

Monsters remain human beings. In fact, to reduce them to a subhuman level is to exonerate them of their acts of terrorism and mass murder — just as animals are not deemed morally responsible for killing.

You know, being optimistic.

The myth that there was somehow a magic wand in the early 1980s to cure AIDS - a wand that Reagan deliberately refused to wave - is now almost conventional wisdom.

There's a reason for that though.
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