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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Arcturus Descending » Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:50 pm

phyllo wrote:
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phyllo wrote:Changing the name doesn't change the content.

"What’s in a name? That which we call a rose,
By any other name would smell as sweet."


I don't think that that is necessarily true. One might be surprised - or not, how much a name change can influence or affect a person's behavior or psyche.
Names have meaning, words have meaning.


BUT if you called THAT rose over there a CUCUMBER I wonder how it would affect one's sense of smell, one's perspective? :-k
You guys have become so obsessed with perspective that you can't see anything besides the superficial.


So are you calling me a perspectivist? I really wouldn't mind that at all, being that the more vantage points we can view things from, the more light can be shed on an object.

I've never been accused of being superficial before. :oops:

ANYWAY, I don't intuit how what I said above, not the immediate above, makes me obsessed with perspective. or makes me not see anything besides the superficial. i'm the one who dives beneath the surface of the iceberg. Have you ever seen what's there?

I don't normally go in for generalizing though i realize there is a purpose in it.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:57 pm

Everything's perspectivism.

For example, a man builds a bunch of sticks, glues them together, puts a motor on it and wings, and we say "that's a plane", and it's "cool"! Its our our new idol, we worship it, we worship the system.

If you think a theory is cool, that's your perspective. Making theories seem profound is kind of an art, helps if you add sciency music.

Its all meaning making, even finding out the explanation of consciousness. The only thing that matters is MIJOT. Finding out consciousness will help us I think.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Carleas » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:09 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Carleas wrote:Change made, welcome to the board!



Carleas, is there a cost to you to change a name?

It costs me or another mod about a minute.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Harbal » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:58 pm

Can I change my name to the same one I've already got, as a symbolic gesture, or would that be stretching the rules too far?
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Carleas » Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:10 am

After long consideration, unfortunately I have to refuse your request, Harbal. While I appreciate where you're coming from and what you're trying to accomplish, I've concluded that you can't do anything as a symbolic gesture that you can't do -- if it's not possible to do something at all, it's not possible to do that thing as a symbolic gesture. And since changing your name and leaving it the same are mutually incompatible, you can't change your name to the same one you've already got, and so you can't do so as a symbolic gesture either.

I hope you understand.


An alternative justification for refusing your rquest: "the same one I've already got" is 29 characters, and the max is 24. :-"
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Harbal » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:01 am

Carleas wrote:I've concluded that you can't do anything as a symbolic gesture that you can't do -- if it's not possible to do something at all, it's not possible to do that thing as a symbolic gesture. And since changing your name and leaving it the same are mutually incompatible, you can't change your name to the same one you've already got, and so you can't do so as a symbolic gesture either.
This is a philosophy forum, for God's sake, I can't believe there's nobody here who can think their way around this problem. If I can't change my name to the one I've already got then how am I supposed to send out the message that I'm still the same as I was before? The only thing I can think of is to replace my avatar with an identical copy and hope that people assume my name has been similarly replaced. To be honest, I'm rather disappointed.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Lev Muishkin » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:49 am

Maia wrote:I wish you lot wouldn't keep doing this. Remember I can't see your faces. It's confusing being confronted by a load of different names for the same people all the time.


Names tend to stay the same. It's the avatars that change. Someone is currently using Hitler, whilst another is using Charlie Brown.
For the sighted the game is trying to remember the names when the face keeps changing.

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Re: Name Change Request

Postby The Golden Turd » Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:40 pm

I'm using my phone, so I can't see the avatars, who is Hitler?
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Arcturus Descending » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:12 pm

Carleas wrote:
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Carleas wrote:Change made, welcome to the board!



Carleas, is there a cost to you to change a name?

It costs me or another mod about a minute.


Ah Carleas, you may someday be asked to join the "diplomatic" corp. :evilfun:
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“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Arcturus Descending » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:14 pm

Lev Muishkin wrote:
Maia wrote:I wish you lot wouldn't keep doing this. Remember I can't see your faces. It's confusing being confronted by a load of different names for the same people all the time.


Names tend to stay the same. It's the avatars that change. Someone is currently using Hitler, whilst another is using Charlie Brown.
For the sighted the game is trying to remember the names when the face keeps changing.


It isn't about Charlie Brown per se but about the relationship between all four. Christmas is over and it's time for me to find another avatar but I so hate parting with that little tree. There is just "something" about it.
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"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


“Whereas the beautiful is limited, the sublime is limitless, so that the mind in the presence of the sublime, attempting to imagine what it cannot, has pain in the failure but pleasure in contemplating the immensity of the attempt.”

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Re: Name Change Request

Postby phyllo » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:16 pm

Harbal wrote:
Carleas wrote:I've concluded that you can't do anything as a symbolic gesture that you can't do -- if it's not possible to do something at all, it's not possible to do that thing as a symbolic gesture. And since changing your name and leaving it the same are mutually incompatible, you can't change your name to the same one you've already got, and so you can't do so as a symbolic gesture either.
This is a philosophy forum, for God's sake, I can't believe there's nobody here who can think their way around this problem. If I can't change my name to the one I've already got then how am I supposed to send out the message that I'm still the same as I was before? The only thing I can think of is to replace my avatar with an identical copy and hope that people assume my name has been similarly replaced. To be honest, I'm rather disappointed.

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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:23 pm

Wont do what he wants, its symbolic of a slight alteration to his personality.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Harbal » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:21 pm

Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Wont do what he wants, its symbolic of a slight alteration to his personality.

I knew you'd get it.
By the way, I just wanted you to know that I hold no resentment towards you regarding the fact that they changed the rules for you but not for me.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Arcturus Descending » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:34 pm

Harbal wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Wont do what he wants, its symbolic of a slight alteration to his personality.

I knew you'd get it.
By the way, I just wanted you to know that I hold no resentment towards you regarding the fact that they changed the rules for you but not for me.


Judging by the look in your avatar, you might want to change your name to "herbal" if you understanding my meaning. :wink:
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"Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the oftener and more steadily we reflect on them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me."


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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Maia » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:11 am

Lev Muishkin wrote:
Maia wrote:I wish you lot wouldn't keep doing this. Remember I can't see your faces. It's confusing being confronted by a load of different names for the same people all the time.


Names tend to stay the same. It's the avatars that change. Someone is currently using Hitler, whilst another is using Charlie Brown.
For the sighted the game is trying to remember the names when the face keeps changing.


If they have the same name, why is this difficult?
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:15 am

Harbal wrote:
Ultimate Philosophy 1001 wrote:Wont do what he wants, its symbolic of a slight alteration to his personality.

I knew you'd get it.
By the way, I just wanted you to know that I hold no resentment towards you regarding the fact that they changed the rules for you but not for me.

Thanks, that is a relief and I can sleep easy now.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:38 am

Turd Ferguson wrote:I'm using my phone, so I can't see the avatars, who is Hitler?


Click the menu tab in your browser and select, "show desktop site" or whatever. Mobile sites suck man. Wait...you probably have an iphone. They probably wont do that.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby James S Saint » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:48 pm

Maia wrote:If they have the same name, why is this difficult?

Some people are very distracted by images and instinctively prefer image identification and memory over reading.
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Re: Name Change Request

Postby Aussenseite » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:13 pm

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Maia wrote:If they have the same name, why is this difficult?

Some people are very distracted by images and instinctively prefer image identification and memory over reading.

Some years ago, on a forum far far away... I used to change my avatar to see if it would effect the way people, even the same people, responded to me. The results were very interesting to say the least. Most of the responses changed not because of my username, but because of the picture I chose to display. Some posters who had be previously nice, reasonable people turned hostile and vice versa. They weren't drastic changes either, just small changes.

Humans are interesting. It's funny what changes when only one of five senses changes value and the others stay the same. Totally different experience. Always serves as a reminder to me how little we actually know about the mind and humanity. It's why we always have to always be aware and conscious in every moment.
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