Initial personal opinion of Trumpism

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Initial personal opinion of Trumpism

Postby Meno_ » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:41 pm

Initial personal opinion while watching Barr"s opinion before release:

Is this a method he is using: precepting his opinion , prior to substantiation with his method of describing the ways the Report should be understood?

In other words, does the national legal interpretation lean toward a whitewash, or away from?

The procedure to appear by Barr BEFORE release of the report, is being heavily criticized, as well his presumptive statements before the committee he appeared before.

In fact it has been pointed out, that Mueller left open adjucation of the issue of probable proof rather then certainty in affirming the standard of criminality.

That is a known legal rule . Overlooked by many, to askew the intent of demonstrating Mueller's transferring adjucation. to the Department of Justice, rather then to Congress.

The question revolves around the issue whether the Report implies exonoration versus vindication. where exonorarionn corresponds with obstruction and vindication with the under lying proof of collusion.

Whitewash does operates splitting intent on terms of probable cause with conflating it with intent, arguing from the prior to the later. So at this stage , the reaffirmation of filling in reasons (casual) into hypothetical (opinions), mixing the two by the reaffirmation, keying in the Kantian categorical imperative, that one does relate to the other.

Whether the direct and indirect evidence can be shown to be inferred or deducted, sets the basis of the regional for asserting redaction.

Since the Democrats are at a weakness to counter this with a similar.Congressional show of this rationale to the 'Majoritive of American's & becomes on hold, at least until Mueller's appearance before Congress in May.

The effects of the cyber value ias a central issue has been walled over, that is the overlooked crux of the whole case.

That borders, literally, the necessary whitewash, which was figuratively shifted the idea into social dissociation.

The way this was handled, the obstruction may have been clouded over, washed clean, by the collusive nature of the idea of the new world order, which has been an idea swirling around since the novel -1984.

Therefore, the logical contradiction between (Kant) prior intellectual motive (1984 ) and politically clarified intention-{Hegel-Heidegger), has been successfully overcome (Transvalued, Nietzsche) so legitimize successfully the politocal ramifications of cyber-intelligence.

Its obvious now, that Trump is a very good actor, and he can rightfully claim now, that his degrading from winning an award has been based by politocal pressure from above, rather then by objective criteria of worth .

How the leap from good actor to effective politician plays out, now has become a viable issue laden legal PR show, which has been effectively been achieved.

Consclusion: Trump has been rescued by subliminal cyber manipulation, of whose legitimacy has become a secondary , not.primary preoccupation , to shadow the Report, by eliminating the need to foreshadow it.(inquiries into intent-more in line with the still current suspicion of intent as obstruction)
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Re: Initial personal opinion of Trumpism

Postby Meno_ » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:13 pm

Re: Nervous in spite of understanding Mr. Nietzche
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Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:08 pm Post
How interesting that ILP is showing to become a real microcosm of the greater United States. We are being torn, literally, by the very diversity which has been the standard, bearing torch of a world for hundreds of years!

Nationwide, political activists and moderates, are considering intra state splitting, to actually break up individual states. giving expression to the disenfranchised, unhappy parts, who feel that the creation of new states from previous ones, are the only remedies form what they feel are excluded.

Are the signs really show that the Union can hardly withstand the current level of federa/statel dissention? Is this the beginning of a constitutional problem not seen since the Civil War? Will there a time come in the proximatel future, when dire states will force the hand of those, who are unable now to conceive of anything but application of repression through denial? What makes this issue particularly poignant at the present time, is that th U.S. model is still in effect throughout the world, and it is no longer a worry over the state of the UNION , but the state of the world that's concerning.

Repressive tactics influence and are influenced by the same regressive populist movement known as anti-psychiatry, an outgrowth of a more general contradiction to thought: anti-philosophy. The reductive forces of any substantive thought is denied, and positively deconstructed by an appeal to positivist common sense philosophy, which, has been proved insufficient on its own face.

Its so ironic, that the very people pushing formal thinkers to the wall on basis of circular logic, and expose the inadequacy of positivism , fall victim as well to the same kind of obedience to the call of populism. But then they do not see the trap they are setting for themselves. They are caught without realizing their catch is themselves , hooked on a line on which they are the bait. Nietzche talked around this problem, and he was one of the greatest humorists of all times. 'that is why I write such wonderful books'

The light is beginning to glimmer through the cracks.

From Persian mystic poet : Rumi

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Report shows Mueller lacked proof Trump's obstruction attempts were 'conscious wrongdoing'
The document revealed the president launched an "f-bomb" when he found out a special counsel had been named to investigate him.
April 18, 2019, 11:05 AM ET / Updated April 18, 2019, 2:10 PM ET
By Dareh Gregorian and Julia Ainsley
Special counsel Robert Mueller's lengthy report made public Thursday reviewed President Donald Trump's attempts to muddy the investigation, including efforts to tamper with witnesses, but decided not to charge him with obstruction because there was no underlying crime and many of the attempts were carried out in plain view.

But Mueller said that the decision not to charge Trump was a difficult one, and that it was not clear he was innocent of obstructing justice. If the special counsel's office had been certain that Trump did not commit crimes, Mueller said, it would have said so in the report.

Trump, the 448-page report reveals, was panicked when he first found out about Mueller's appointment, saying: "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m fucked," citing testimony from then Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ chief of staff.

"How could you let this happen, Jeff?" Trump continued, telling Sessions something to the effect of, "You were supposed to protect me. ... This is the worst thing that ever happened to me."

Mueller's office says it weighed charging Trump with obstruction, but didn't in part because "we recognized that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting President would place burdens on the President's capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional process for addressing presidential misconduct."

Investigators had looked at Trump's response to reports about Russia’s support of his campaign, his firing of FBI Director James Comey, his behavior about charges against his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former national security adviser Michael Flynn, and his efforts to get rid of Mueller himself.

That included Trump ordering then-White House Counsel Don McGahn to tell Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein that "Mueller has to go."

"McGahn spoke with the President twice and understood the directive the same way both times, making it unlikely that he misheard or misinterpreted the President’s request. In response to that request, McGahn decided to quit," the report says. "He called his lawyer, drove to the White House, packed up his office, prepared to submit a resignation letter with his chief of staff, (and) told (then-White House Chief of Staff Reince) Preibus that the President had asked him to 'do crazy shit,'" the report continues.

"McGahn ultimately did not quit and the President did not follow up with McGahn on his request to have the Special Counsel removed," the report said.

As for whether Trump might have been involved in witness tampering, the special counsel cited legal precedent that acting corruptly would require proof of "conscious wrongdoing," but he noted several examples of Trump behaving questionably when it came to Flynn and Manafort.

"With regard to Flynn, the President sent private and public messages to Flynn encouraging him to stay strong and conveying that the President still cared about him before he began to cooperate with the government," the report says.

"With respect to Manafort, there is evidence that the President's actions had the potential to influence Manafort's decision whether to cooperate with the government. The President and his personal counsel made repeated statements suggesting that a pardon was a possibility for Manafort, while also making it clear that the President did not want Manafort to 'flip' and cooperate with the government," the filing notes.

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The report also says Mueller did not believe he had to interview Trump because a legal battle for his cooperation would be lengthy — and his state of mind was obvious.

Prosecutors also consulted an opinion by DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel that a sitting president can't be indicted, "and accepted OLC's legal conclusion," the report says.

"The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment," the partially redacted report says.

"At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgement. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

While Attorney General William Barr wrote in a memo prior to his appointment last year that Trump could not have obstructed justice because he had the legal authority to do things like fire Comey and consider pardons for witnesses, Mueller took a tougher line, saying "we were not persuaded by the argument that the President has blanket constitutional immunity to engage in acts that would corruptly obstruct justice."

The report says the issue may be one for Congress to decide. It "concluded that Congress can validly regulate the President's exercise of official duties to prohibit actions motivated by a corrupt intent to obstruct justice."

The report also did not find that Trump was trying to cover-up an underlying crime, because investigators did not establish that Trump's team "conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities," despite numerous contacts.

The report says the Russian government “interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion,” and noted the Internet Research Agency, a Russian hacking and influence company, first began targeting the United States in early 2014.

“The investigation identified two different forms of connections between the IRA and members of the Trump Campaign…First, on multiple occasions, members and surrogates of the Trump Campaign promoted — typically by linking, retweeting, or similar methods of reposting — pro-Trump or anti-Clinton content published by the IRA through IRA-controlled social media accounts. Additionally, in a few instances, IRA employees represented themselves as U.S. persons to communicate with members of the Trump Campaign in an effort to seek assistance and coordination on IRA-organized political rallies inside the United States,” the report found.

Among those who cited or retweeted IRA-controlled accounts were two of the president’s sons, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, the report notes.

The report also delves into a meeting at Trump Tower in June of 2016 involving Trump Jr., Manafort and a Russian lawyer who’d been offering “dirt” on the Hillary Clinton campaign courtesy of the Russian government. Trump Jr. said the dirt never materialized. While there had been speculation Trump Jr. had told his father about the meeting, the report said they found no evidence that he did. Trump told Mueller’s investigators in a written statement that he has “no independent recollection” of that time period.

A later attempt to spin the meeting as being about Russian adoptions appears to have been motivated for public relation reasons, the report says.

The report says Trump also downplayed talks about a possible Trump Tower Moscow, which were ongoing during the campaign. Trump acknowledged speaking to his lawyer Michael Cohen about the project, but said he was "not enthused about it."

While the investigation found many links between Trump, his people and Russia, "evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election."

Trump's legal team issued a statement minutes after the report’s release online, calling it "a total victory for the President. The report underscores what we have argued from the very beginning — there was no collusion — there was no obstruction."

Speaking at a White House event around the same time as the release, Trump said it was "a good day."

"This should never happen to another president again. This hoax should never happen to another president again," he said.

Dareh Gregorian
Dareh Gregorian writes for NBC News.

Julia Ainsley is a national security reporter for NBC News.

Ken Dilanian contributed.

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