## Work... a four letter word....

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To the California communist - work is what other people do so that you won't run out of their money - what they do to obtain what rightfully belongs to you.
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You have been observed.
Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
It's just the same Satanism as always -
• separate the bottom from the top,
• the left from the right,
• the light from the dark, and
• blame each for the sins of the other
• - until they beg you to take charge.
• -- but "you" have been observed --
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"To the California communist - work is what other people do so that you won't run out of their money"

^^^ Holy mother mary of god. Did he just say that? Keter don't listen to him. He's trying that trick from 1984 where you tell the class that two plus two equals five and then they start believing it.

Seriously he's gotten it perfectly backward before... but this one, this one is immaculate.

Like if Alex trebek were to say 'an economic system where people don't spend and run out of money made by other people', we would be like 'what is communism'.
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promethean75 wrote:"To the California communist - work is what other people do so that you won't run out of their money"

^^^ Holy mother mary of god. Did he just say that? Keter don't listen to him. He's trying that trick from 1984 where you tell the class that two plus two equals five and then they start believing it.

Seriously he's gotten it perfectly backward before... but this one, this one is immaculate.

Like if Alex trebek were to say 'an economic system where people don't spend and run out of money made by other people', we would be like 'what is communism'.

K: he is just another idiot around here... UR, observe, wendy, pedro.... between all of them
combined, their collective thought might get you one intelligent person.... maybe...

I have written multiple post and threads making it clear I am opposed to communism,
but collectively they still haven't figured that out.. I don't hold out much hope either,
again because they aren't interested in the truth or logic or even reason....
they are polemicists, one is interested in making an argument, regardless if
that argument is true or not.. have you seen any of them, ever, make an
argument that opposes what they believe in? no, of course not, because
it isn't the truth they are seeking... it isn't the Nietzschean idea of a
"revaluation of values" or overcoming their prejudices or superstitions,
to save their lives, they cannot hold to any other beliefs then what they
hold because their entire self worth is tied to their beliefs.. if one, just
one belief is "wrong" then their entire value system could be wrong....
and that is a risk that to maintain their own value, cannot happen...

whereas to me, if I am wrong about something, and frankly, I am often
wrong about things, but that won't destroy my entire self worth
mental image about myself... I can afford to be wrong on occasion
because it won't shatter my understanding of who I am....if I am wrong,
I simply correct my own beliefs and move on.. but to the, as IAM calls them,
objectivists, one wrong belief can shatter their entire image of who they
are..... they are so tied into their own belief system, as to make it one
and the same....my own person is different then my beliefs,
but to an "Objectivists" they are their beliefs...they cannot to save their lives,
separate who they are from their beliefs... it is one and the same...

I have changed my own political thought 3 times over my life, and my
philosophical thought multiple times....I can change what I believe in
and not damage what I think about myself, these ''objectivists'' cannot do that...

their entire understanding of who they are depends upon these strict
and unchangeable values they hold...for example to admit that IQ45
might even be wrong, would seriously damage their own understanding
of who they are.... the two are inexorable tied to together...

whereas I hold Obama did makes some mistakes, more then a few,
and wasn't even a liberal... he was a center-right politician...
I can hold a nuanced position about someone, or ideas and not damage my
own understanding about who I am...

I am secure in who I am.. and they are not... and that makes all the differenced
in the world....

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### Re: Work... a four letter word....

promethean75 wrote:"To the California communist - work is what other people do so that you won't run out of their money"

^^^ Holy mother mary of god. Did he just say that? Keter don't listen to him. He's trying that trick from 1984 where you tell the class that two plus two equals five and then they start believing it.

Seriously he's gotten it perfectly backward before... but this one, this one is immaculate.

Like if Alex trebek were to say 'an economic system where people don't spend and run out of money made by other people', we would be like 'what is communism'.

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You might want to mirror on who really has it backward mate -

“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”
- Brit PM Margret Thacher
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

You have been observed.
Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
It's just the same Satanism as always -
• separate the bottom from the top,
• the left from the right,
• the light from the dark, and
• blame each for the sins of the other
• - until they beg you to take charge.
• -- but "you" have been observed --
obsrvr524
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### Re: Work... a four letter word....

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And currently in the US - the socialist party is doing all it can to pass a $5.5 TRILLION tax and spend package to enslave Americans for generations and through bankruptcy - the money going to the socialist state and union leaders to do with as they please - to fund their friends. They just passed a bill to raise their nation debt limit to near$30 TRILLION just to help get more tax and spend socialist agenda through Congress.

It is ALWAYS "other people's many - Tax money - sold as "free social services" - actually voluntary enslavement - as their rich get richer and richer - and YOU do the WORK - YOU pay the TAX - or face imprisonment for evasion.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

You have been observed.
Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
It's just the same Satanism as always -
• separate the bottom from the top,
• the left from the right,
• the light from the dark, and
• blame each for the sins of the other
• - until they beg you to take charge.
• -- but "you" have been observed --
obsrvr524
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obsrvr524 wrote:-
And currently in the US - the socialist party is doing all it can to pass a $5.5 TRILLION tax and spend package to enslave Americans for generations and through bankruptcy - the money going to the socialist state and union leaders to do with as they please - to fund their friends. They just passed a bill to raise their nation debt limit to near$30 TRILLION just to help get more tax and spend socialist agenda through Congress.

It is ALWAYS "other people's many - Tax money - sold as "free social services" - actually voluntary enslavement - as their rich get richer and richer - and YOU do the WORK - YOU pay the TAX - or face imprisonment for evasion.

K: yep, that socialist agenda like education, maintaining roads, picking up garbage,
sewage plants, social security, medicare, policemen, firemen, the infrastructure
things like freeways and bridges, health care.. the basic things that keeps
society functioning.....again, if you actually knew some history, the reason
that Rome for example was the great power that it was, was because
Rome had taxes which paid for its greatness, the army, the roads,
the aqueducts that provided Roman cities with water...

greatness in a country can be equated with the amount of taxes
that country can produce... with taxes, a country can build
an civilization... in fact, the very idea of civilization comes from
the infrastructure that a country has... an infrastructure build
by...... taxes...every single great country/civilization the world has
seen, was driven by and produced by the taxes which build that society/
state/civilization infrastructure...and infrastructure is civilization....
and civilization is taxes...... bottom line...

name me a great civilization that didn't have a strong
infrastructure?

Kropotkin
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### Re: Work... a four letter word....

obsrvr524 wrote:.
They just passed a bill to raise their nation debt limit to near $30 TRILLION just to help get more tax and spend socialist agenda through Congress. The national debt limit was raised to pay off a massive explosion of debt under President Trump and the Republican Party. It has nothing to do with funding existing or future programs. You do not understand this? pood Thinker Posts: 617 Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:29 pm ### Re: Work... a four letter word.... pood wrote: obsrvr524 wrote:. They just passed a bill to raise their nation debt limit to near$30 TRILLION just to help get more tax and spend socialist agenda through Congress.

The national debt limit was raised to pay off a massive explosion of debt under President Trump and the Republican Party. It has nothing to do with funding existing or future programs.

You do not understand this?

K: he is an idiot and worse, just another conservative freeloader...
think about it.. conservatives and big corporations want the benefits
of society, a civilization which is the infrastructure, the roads, running water,
schools, sewage plants, the military, but they don't want to pay for it....
they want the benefits without actually paying for it... that is what
a freeloader does.. get benefits without paying for them...
in the world...

Kropotkin
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pood wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:.
They just passed a bill to raise their nation debt limit to near $30 TRILLION just to help get more tax and spend socialist agenda through Congress. The national debt limit was raised to pay off a massive explosion of debt under President Trump and the Republican Party. It has nothing to do with funding existing or future programs. You do not understand this? You mean the debt that the Democrat house of representatives demanded be passed, and threatened to shut everything down if every single cent didn't go through? So that actually needed military spending could also be passed? Which does happen to include an incredible amount of inane useless projects and slush funds that are essentially buying Democrat vacation homes? He doesn't understand it, because it is the way a child with no access to the news sees the world. Pedro I Rengel ᛈᛖᛉᛖᛉ Posts: 10217 Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm ### Re: Work... a four letter word.... pood wrote: obsrvr524 wrote:. They just passed a bill to raise their nation debt limit to near$30 TRILLION just to help get more tax and spend socialist agenda through Congress.

The national debt limit was raised to pay off a massive explosion of debt under President Trump and the Republican Party. It has nothing to do with funding existing or future programs.

You do not understand this?

Is it that you fall for every blame-shifting lie they tell - or is it that you just don't care?

Raising a debt limit doesn't pay-off anything. That is like calling your bank and asking they raise your credit limit because you have maxed it out and now want it raised so that you can pay it off.

After they reach that limit I guess they just have to raise the limit again so that they can pay off their $5.5 TRILLION tax and spend package they passed before. And after that - raise the limit again - and again - and again. How do you think it got to$30 TRILLION? It certainly wasn't because of the Republicans.

They had to raise it again because the Congressional budget managers caught them lying about that package "paying for itself". It actually has nothing to do with Mr Trump's spending to get out of Obama, OBiden, Fauci's, and the socialist party's effort to secretly decimate the US.

Socialism is about enslaving people into permanent desperation and dependency on an elite, ultra-wealthy, "untouchable" class - the anti-populist class. Why do you think the socialists never get prosecuted in the US while they declare parents to be "domestic terrorists" because they protest socialist propaganda in their schools.

Socialism -
Enslaved Desperate Worker Class
Privileged Manager/Manipulator Class
High Taxation - High Inflation
Low Service - Low Lifestyle
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You have been observed.
Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
It's just the same Satanism as always -
• separate the bottom from the top,
• the left from the right,
• the light from the dark, and
• blame each for the sins of the other
• - until they beg you to take charge.
• -- but "you" have been observed --
obsrvr524
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### Re: Work... a four letter word....

obsrvr524 wrote:
pood wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:.
They just passed a bill to raise their nation debt limit to near $30 TRILLION just to help get more tax and spend socialist agenda through Congress. The national debt limit was raised to pay off a massive explosion of debt under President Trump and the Republican Party. It has nothing to do with funding existing or future programs. You do not understand this? Is it that you fall for every blame-shifting lie they tell - or is it that you just don't care? Raising a debt limit doesn't pay-off anything. That is like calling your bank and asking they raise your credit limit because you have maxed it out and now want it raised so that you can pay it off. After they reach that limit I guess they just have to raise the limit again so that they can pay off their$5.5 TRILLION tax and spend package they passed before. And after that - raise the limit again - and again - and again.

How do you think it got to \$30 TRILLION? It certainly wasn't because of the Republicans.

They had to raise it again because the Congressional budget managers caught them lying about that package "paying for itself". It actually has nothing to do with Mr Trump's spending to get out of Obama, OBiden, Fauci's, and the socialist party's effort to secretly decimate the US.

Socialism is about enslaving people into permanent desperation and dependency on an elite, ultra-wealthy, "untouchable" class - the anti-populist class. Why do you think the socialists never get prosecuted in the US while they declare parents to be "domestic terrorists" because they protest socialist propaganda in their schools.

Socialism -
Enslaved Desperate Worker Class
Privileged Manager/Manipulator Class
High Taxation - High Inflation
Low Service - Low Lifestyle

K: and how soon they forget the massive unpaid for tax breaks for
the wealthy in the IQ45 years... that increased our debt by Trillions....
as did the unpaid for tax breaks in the Bush jr. years and the two
wars that was accomplished by lying about who was involved,
recall the Bush Jr. was given a deficit free budget and then
blew that up into the trillions...it is an historical fact that
the democrats run a far better economy then the republicans...
fact.....Obama reduced the federal deficit by billions... as will
Biden... because that is what the democrats do... come in a clean
up the gop mess that they leave for the country....

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