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Postby Historyboy » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:50 pm

Nietzsche wrote:Von der Kranken-Optik aus nach gesünderen Begriffen und Werthen, und wiederum umgekehrt aus der Fülle und Selbstgewissheit des reichen Lebens hinuntersehn in die heimliche Arbeit des Decadence-Instinkts das war meine längste Übung, meine eigentliche Erfahrung, wenn irgend worin wurde ich darin Meister.




Vollgraff, Polygnosie, §. 3, f wrote:So wie wir aber von der Gesundheit eigentlich nur durch den Gegensatz der Krankheit etwas wissen, von der Freiheit durch den Gegensatz der Un-Freiheit, so ist auch die alters-gesunde und freie Periode der Staaten erst ganz verständlich durch den Gegensatz, welcher sich bei dem Verfalle der Staaten und dem Verluste ihrer politischen Unabhängigkeit herausstellt.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:04 am

Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:51 pm

Nietzsche wrote:Der Handelsmann läßt sich seinen Überschuß an Geist zu hoch bezahlen; höhere Rassen wie z. B. die jüdische gerathen auch in den schrecklichsten Lagen nicht leicht in die äußerste Noth, sich als physische Maschinen vermiethen zu müssen.


Here is the Jewish race obviously contrasted with the modern Europeans. And in Vollgraff's order of rank of the nations the Jews are about 5 ranks higher than the Germans.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Historyboy » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:44 am

Nietzsche, BGE, 20 wrote:I mean owing to the unconscious domination and guidance of similar grammatical functions—it cannot but be that everything is prepared at the outset for a similar development and succession of philosophical systems, just as the way seems barred against certain other possibilities of world-interpretation. It is highly probable that philosophers within the domain of the Ural-Altaic languages (where the conception of the subject is least developed) look otherwise "into the world," and will be found on paths of thought different from those of the Indo-Germans and Mussulmans, the spell of certain grammatical functions is ultimately also the spell of PHYSIOLOGICAL valuations and racial conditions.


The same connection between language and genes given by Vollgraff.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:32 am

Nietzsche's rescue-plan would look like this: the highest and most developed humans have sharpest senses and see truth better than others. Therefore is philosophy as the crown of all human development until now. Religion is just 'the first halftime' in human existence. Nietzsche is the turning point in history between religion and philosophy. He "breaks history in two" and represents the "great noontide". His Zarathustra creates an Earth society (included is just who choses to be and who believes in Übermensch). This society has different classes ... we see that he loves also simple workers who believe in Übermensch and work for this idea. There is obviously also a warrior class. Then a class of sublimes, an aristocracy, which naturally rises from the warriors. And then a class of philosophers, the Masters of Earth, which rise from the sublimes. They rule like the Greek pantheon of gods, i. e. like panphilosophers. The rest of humanity is observed as without rights. "If they don't give us we take it alone".


von Lasaulx wrote: "das Leben wächst von innen nach aussen, von unten nach oben, und stirbt ab von aussen nach innen, von oben nach unten. Aus dem Bauer wächst empor der Bürger, der Krieger, der Priester, der Edelmann, der Fürst; und wenn die ausgewachsen sind, so stirbt das Volksleben von oben nach unten ab: von den Dynastengeschlechtern anfangend geht der Auflösungsprocess successive abwärts, bis er zulezt auch den Bauernstand ergreift."
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Thu May 14, 2015 10:25 am

They discover, these sharp onlookers and loafers, that the end is quickly approaching, that everything around them decays and produces decay, that nothing will endure until the day after tomorrow, except one species of man, the incurably mediocre. The mediocre alone have a prospect of continuing and propagating themselves—they will be the men of the future, the sole survivors; "be like them! become mediocre!" is now the only morality which has still a significance, which still obtains a hearing.— But it is difficult to preach this morality of mediocrity! it can never avow what it is and what it desires! it has to talk of moderation and dignity and duty and brotherly love—it will have difficulty in concealing its irony!—
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Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:02 pm

Nietzsche telling somewhere socialists have lazy hands and nationalists lazy heads.

Vollgraff telling somewhere it is not the lack of work that motivates the socialist movement, there is sufficient land to work, for hardworking hands.

What is then a national-socialist?
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:17 am

Vollgraff, Antike Politik, §. 18. (on religion) wrote:Die Religion der Griechen war nicht eine zur Erlösung und sittlichen Restauration eines verdorbenen und gesunkenen Menschen geschlechts offenbarte Religion, sondern eine aus dem sittlichen Character des ganzen Volks durch seine Dichter und Sänger ins Leben gerufene idealisirte Symbolik menschlicher Tugenden und Leidenschaften
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Je menschlicher sich ein Volk seine Götter denkt, desto näher sind sie ihm; desto vertrauter wird es mit ihnen. — Es ist den Griechen die Idee, ihre Götter als Vorbilder der Sittlichkeit aufzustellen, gänzlich fremd geblieben; (denn sie trugen sie in sich selbst und formten nach ihr ihre Götterwelt


Same by Nietzsche somewhere or everywhere.

Most important, it is not about the "animal instincts" as modern pigs assume, but human instincts - passions AND VIRTUES!
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:30 pm

Vollgraff, Antike Politik, §. 18 wrote:d) Man wufste nichts von heiligen Büchern, feststehenden Dogmen und einer Priesterschaft als Auslegerin und Hüterin, denn es ruhte ihre Religion auf der Sittlichkeit, und wo diese nicht den Religions-Codex bildet, vermag kein geschriebener Codex sie zu erzielen. Die National-Tempel von Olympia und Delphi vereinigten vermöge eines sittlichen Bedürfnisses die griechische Welt um sich herum. Es war keine Glaubenspflicht‚ sie zu besuchen und zu beschenken, sondern man kam von selbst. M. s. die Stelle aus Isocrates bei Heeren S. 191.

e) Die alten Griechen beteten die Götter-Statuen selbst nicht an, sondern das Ideal, welches diese symbolisch darstellten. Einige christliche Kirchen lassen aber die Bilder selbst anbeten und verschaffen ihnen Anbetung, sonst wurden sie dieselben keine Wunder thun lassen.



The Greek religion was based on virtues and customs, and virtues are ideal(ism)s. TSZ is also an ideal.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Historyboy » Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:26 am

"Aber auch wenn die von Russland organisierte slawische Völkerwanderung (II, 247) einmal in der Zukunft nach Westen vordränge, werde Russland gleichwohl nicht zur geistigen Beherrschung Europas in der Lage sein, weil diesem Volke „das gänzlich abgeht, womit man auf die Dauer eine politische Herrschaft über höher kultivierte und zivilisierte Völker zu behaupten im Stande ist" (III, 882)." (Schoeps)


"Eine solche politische Herrschaft muss schlechterdings durch eine natürliche geistige und Kultur-Aristokratie des Volkes, welches sie auf die Dauer ausüben will, unterstützt und getragen werden und diese fehlt gezeigter Massen den Russen." (Vollgraff, Ethnologie § 422, c)


"Erste Frage: die Herrschaft der Erde-angelsächsisch. Das deutsche Element ein gutes Ferment, es versteht
nicht zu herrschen. Die Herrschaft in Europa ist nur deshalb deutsch, weil es mit ermüdeten greisen Völkern zu
thun hat, es ist seine Barbarei, seine verzögerte Cultur, die die Macht giebt.
Frankreich voran in der Cultur, Zeichen des Verfalls Europa’s. Rußland muß Herr Europas und Asiens werden-
es muß colonisiren und China und Indien gewinnen. Europa als das Griechenland unter der Herrschaft Roms.
Europa also zu fassen als Cultur-Centrum: die nationalen Thorheiten sollen uns nicht blind machen, daß in der
höheren Region bereits eine fortwährende gegenseitige Abhängigkeit besteht. Frankreich und die deutsche
Philosophie. R. Wagner von 1830-50 und Paris. Goethe und Griechenland. Alles strebt nach einer Synthese
der europäischen Vergangenheit in höchsten geistigen Typen - - - -
- eine Art Mitte, welche das Krankhafte an jeder Nation (z. B. die wissenschaftliche Hysterie der Pariser) ablehnt.
Die Gewalt ist einmal getheilt zwischen Slaven und Angelsachsen. Der geistige Einfluß könnte in den Händen
des typischen Europäers sein" (Nietzsche, Nachlass)
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:23 pm

geht Sallust davon aus, dass die Eintracht im Inneren des Staates durch äußere Bedrohungen aufrecht erhalten wird, da man so „gezwungen“ ist für seine Werte und Normen zu kämpfen, zusammenzuarbeiten und sich als einzelner für den Staat einzusetzen. Doch für Sallust findet im Jahre 146 v. Chr. ein Wendepunkt in der Geschichte statt, der eben diesen „Stabilisierungsfaktor“ im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes eliminiert. Es ist das Jahr in dem Karthago dem Erdboden gleichgemacht wird und der letzte große Feind der Römer auf dem Weg zur Weltherrschaft von der Landkarte verschwindet.


Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Böse, 262 wrote: der beständige Kampf mit immer gleichen ungünstigen Bedingungen ist, wie gesagt, die Ursache davon, dass ein Typus fest und hart wird. Endlich aber entsteht einmal eine Glückslage, die ungeheure Spannung lässt nach; es giebt vielleicht keine Feinde mehr unter den Nachbarn, und die Mittel zum Leben, selbst zum Genusse des Lebens sind überreichlich da. Mit Einem Schlage reisst das Band und der Zwang der alten Zucht: sie fühlt sich nicht mehr als nothwendig, als Dasein-bedingend
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:41 pm

588 Obwohl Nietzsche Creuzer nie erwähnt, steht sein Einfluß auf ihn außer Zweifel. Nietzsche hat die Symbolik während der Arbeit an der Geburt der Tragödie aus der Bibliothek der Universität Basel entliehen; ein Exemplar davon befindet sich unter seinen Büchern in Weimar.
Creuzer widmet Dionysos die letzten beiden Bücher seiner Symbolik.

Schon vor Nietzsche kam es zur Verwendung der Begriffe „apollinisch“ und „dionysisch“: In der Romantik finden sie sich u.a. bei Friedrich Wilhelm Schelling, Johann Jakob Bachofen und Georg Friedrich Creuzer. Nietzsche ist also nicht der Urheber der Begriffe, sondern der Erste, der sie in systematischer Weise einander gegenüberstellt.


There were only 4 authors until 1850 who were seriously involved in classical studies: Creuzer, Vollgraff, Lasaulx and one other... Burckhardt?
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:09 pm

Nietzsche, TSZ, Von den Predigern des Todes wrote:Und auch ihr, denen das Leben wilde Arbeit und Unruhe ist: seid ihr nicht sehr müde des Lebens? Seid ihr nicht sehr reif für die Predigt des Todes?
Ihr Alle, denen die wilde Arbeit lieb ist und das Schnelle, Neue, Fremde,—ihr ertragt euch schlecht, euer Fleiss ist Flucht und Wille, sich selber zu vergessen.
Wenn ihr mehr an das Leben glaubtet, würdet ihr weniger euch dem Augenblicke hinwerfen. Aber ihr habt zum Warten nicht Inhalt genug in euch—und selbst zur Faulheit nicht!



Ernst von Lasaulx, Über die theologische Grundlage aller philosophischen Systeme wrote:Die Philosophie entsteht geschichtlich, wie schon ARISTOTELES bemerkt, überall erst dann wenn alles zum Leben Notwendige bereits vorhanden, wenn das leibliche Dasein der Völker wohltuend begründet, und wenn auf dieser Grundlage eine gewisse Muße und aristokratische Freiheit des Gemüts d. h. wenn die Akme [Höhepunkt, Reife - wp] des Volkslebens eingetreten und - überschritten ist. (6) Dann aber, wenn die Pfade abwärts führen tritt überall eine beschleunigte Bewegung des Lebens ein, an welcher, wie alles übrige im Leben der Völker auch die Philosophie teilnimmt. Auch in der ursprüngliche Heimat der Philosophie, in Griechenland, hat das philosophische Denken, einmal begonnen und erstarkt, sich in ununterbrochener Folge, System auf System erzeugend, in einem Zeitraum von zwei bis drei Jahrhunderten ebenso rasch entwickelt wie bei den heutigen Völkern Europas seit dem Ende des Mittelalters. Denn das wäre doch eine arge Gedankenlosigkeit, wenn man verkennen wollte, daß auch bei uns der schnelle Wechsel der philosophischen System sehr eng zusammenhängt mit der allgemein beschleunigten Bewegung des europäischen Lebens, einer Beschleunigung, die sich ja nicht bloß in der Philosophie, sondern viel tiefgreifender auch auf politischem und sozialen Gebiet zeigt, in den Verfassungsformen, in der Gesetzgebung, in den Verkehrsverhältnissen, in Handel und Industrie, in Luxus und Moden.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:37 pm

Very insightful: Vollgraff and Nietzsche vs Lasaulx, Spengler and Burckhardt!!
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

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Historyboy wrote:
Vollgraff, Antike Politik, §. 18. (on religion) wrote:Die Religion der Griechen war nicht eine zur Erlösung und sittlichen Restauration eines verdorbenen und gesunkenen Menschen geschlechts offenbarte Religion, sondern eine aus dem sittlichen Character des ganzen Volks durch seine Dichter und Sänger ins Leben gerufene idealisirte Symbolik menschlicher Tugenden und Leidenschaften
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Je menschlicher sich ein Volk seine Götter denkt, desto näher sind sie ihm; desto vertrauter wird es mit ihnen. — Es ist den Griechen die Idee, ihre Götter als Vorbilder der Sittlichkeit aufzustellen, gänzlich fremd geblieben; (denn sie trugen sie in sich selbst und formten nach ihr ihre Götterwelt


Same by Nietzsche somewhere or everywhere.

Most important, it is not about the "animal instincts" as modern pigs assume, but human instincts - passions AND VIRTUES!
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Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:28 pm

Nietzsche and Vollgraff bragging about materialism as goal and not means anymore in modern so-called-cieties.
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Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:20 pm

Historyboy wrote:Very insightful: Vollgraff and Nietzsche vs Lasaulx, Spengler and Burckhardt!!


What is important in this whole topic is, that Vollgraff never wrote anything that was in contradiction with Nietzsche. Full resonance with all ideas of Nietzsche.

Of course, Vollgraff was only the fundament for Nietzsche, the skeleton and armature. He must have read him somewhere early, during his studies or later as colleague of Burckhardt.
Or those 3 (Burckhardt, Lasaulx and Vollgraff) simply did shape and give direction to the whole classical philology studies in Germany, before Nietzsche came up.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:27 pm

Too bad I can’t read German. Even when it’s right in front of me. (lol… just got a joke)
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Postby Historyboy » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:00 pm

It gets even worse to read Nietzsche if everybody believes Nietzsche's inspiration was in the following:
"He had headaches"
"He went insane"
"He was in love with his sister"
"He had syphilis"
"He took drugs"

For this forum in entirety I declare the following: "Bisher sind die Engländer dumm, die Amerikaner werden nothwendig oberflächlich (Hast) - - - - "
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Meno_ » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:34 pm

Schade, aber es gibt wirklich keine Notwendigkeit, eine Mutter in Amerika zu erfinden.

Gibt es Glauben an das, was Wagner über seine Krankheit gesagt hat?
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Re: Nietzsche shortcuts

Postby Historyboy » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:10 pm

Nietzsche is the proof that we are all on the wrong side of history. His goal was to break history in two.
Life is will to power. - Nietzsche; Culture is and gives power and strength - Vollgraff; The only attribute of the mind is that he is powerful. - Aristotle; Mind is dragging us into the future and the heart into the present. - Aristotle; Those who can foresee deeds are born to rule and those who need to do them are born as slaves. - Aristotle; So, what is an aristocrat? He needs to be powerful, that means to be excellent in foreseeing things! - Me; The highest honor belongs to that one who is able to predict the moves of the enemy commander. - Machiavelli; If you want that what you have inherited to possess, you need to deserve it. - Goethe; Culture, which means exactly learning to calculate, learning to think causally, learning to prevent, learning to believe in necessity. - Nietzsche. [Autumn 1887, 10 [21]]; Morals in the narrow sense is the belief that the deeds of the ancestors will be transferred to the descendants. - Nietzsche
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Postby Meno_ » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:23 pm

Yes but that effort was dampened to exposition of a third, namely the middle ages. It has been expunged , but remains, infallibly like a ghost busted simulation machine.

That was part of the plan or an unexpected byproduct one really never knows

Except a resurgence of Nature's struggle with nurture.
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