a new understanding of today, time and space.

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Re: a new understanding of today, time and space.

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:44 pm

human existence is best understood through our relationship with other
human beings.....we are best understood communally... not in isolation,
but in a relationship with/to others....

this suggests, but doesn't demand that we are best understood via communism
and not capitalism....... we are engaged in life.. community wide, not individually
wise....Kropotkin is.... is best understood as "Kropotkin as part of a community is.....)

who you are is best understood by your relationship with other human beings....
not in isolation, but in terms of relationships with others....

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Re: a new understanding of today, time and space.

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:15 pm

therein lies the problem of Descartes.....

it refers back to the one, I am... when we must answer, we are....

I think therefore I am...... a human being in isolation gives us nothing
to think about....a being disconnected from others has nothing.... is
nothing..... this isolation of mind against body leaves us with no connection
to others.. and that is where we human beings are found....
in connection to others........

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Re: a new understanding of today, time and space.

Postby Dan~ » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:35 am

I think I know myself better than outsiders.
Only a disturbingly ignorant person is known better by outsiders.
Needing outsiders is like needing parents.
It reduces as we grow up.
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Re: a new understanding of today, time and space.

Postby encode_decode » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:09 am

No matter what system anyone believes is best, the real problems show themselves the minute corruption enters the picture - everyone claims they know this but how many people that "know" this seek to understand corruption and how to remove it from themselves. If there are disagreements then there is corruption on one side or the other(potentially something else that many would claim to be obvious). Does a communal picture show the need to remove corruption from the group << can you see the problem with this? So whether we talk about the individual or the group, we are going to come across many problems. Communism and Capitalism are both less than perfect systems. Does this mean that we should turn our backs on both systems and never think about them again? I don't know, all I know is most arguments in 2021 are a complete waste of valuable time for any individual.

Corruption is a plague and everyone has the plague. The only reason we are still here to talk about any of this comes back to this:

>> flawed logics still work in general, since a number of related processes have already produced the most accurate and most useful judgments.
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Re: a new understanding of today, time and space.

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:07 pm

an interesting study to make....

compare the sack of Rome in 410 AD and the sack of Rome in 1527....
and what the two sackings? mean to the times and the thereafter...


I lack the patience to make such a study but I hope someone does
make that study...

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