Peter Kropotkin wrote:a point that has been weighing on my mind......
someone, don't recall who, but someone commented upon
how I use psychological in philosophy....a "psychological philosopher"
and frankly, I am ok with that, but it got me to thinking and I
have been mulling it over for a while now.....
I never really thought about myself that way... I didn't
think I used psychology in philosophy...but looking back on my
writings, and I do.... It has been a lesson learned.....
so, I have been trying to make sense of my "psychological"
philosophy....I did a long study of psychology in my youth....
and clearly I picked up more then I thought I did.......
as I believe that we cannot separate out philosophy from history
or economics or biology or even psychology.....when we are using one,
we are going to use other disciplines along with it.....
because I see no separation between them.....
and as we better understand what it means to be human,
we will see the separations between the disciplines disappear....
psychology is just another aspect of being human.....
and to attempt to understand what it means to be human without
psychology will fail and is doomed to failure because we are as much
psychological beings as we are physical beings...
to be a liberal is a much a psychological factor as anything physical......
"I hold these truths to be self evident that......." is to hold a psychological belief
as well as a holding a political belief....
what we hold to be "truths" are not much more then a psychological
understanding of the world.....
it is interesting that it wasn't until the 20th century, that we tackled
both the conscious mind as well as the unconscious mind....
in Husserl, the conscience mind, as well as Freud in the "unconscious mind"
and these two were contemporaries....so it wasn't about how we "acted"
or what we held "belief" in, but how we thought and what forces went
into our conscious and unconscious mind........Freud thought that sex
dominated our unconscious mind and sex does play a role to be sure,
but it isn't the only force that operates within the unconscious mind...
some of the unconscious forces that help "guide" us is found within
the baubles of existence.... the drive for money, power, titles, fame.....
they also influence our unconscious mind
some, perhaps much of what drives us psychological is found within
the attempts to meet our physical needs, seeking food, water, shelter,
education, health care... meeting these physical needs can, can result
from not having these physical needs meet, which can result in
psychological drives that move us.....being deprived of our psychological
needs as well as our physical needs can drive the unconscious mind.......
the problem lies in the fact that everyone is psychological different,
as well as being physical different...and some needs were met as a child
and some, perhaps many needs weren't met.. and this results in
people being driven by different physical and psychological needs...
in my philosophy I try to account for our differences psychologically
and I don't always succeed.... but at least I am aware of it and that
makes me a better philosopher then most....
Kropotkin
Peter Kropotkin wrote:Berkley Babes:
Maybe the unconscious mind suffered amnesia upon the physical birth in this life. Maybe it still holds traces of what was before, perhaps permanence and perfection. Maybe all those psychological wants and needs that come up to the surface are representative of memories of that previous experience. In this changing imperfect world we all want immortality. Maybe we knew of it before. I don't know for sure though.
Berkley Babes wrote:removing the ego . . . I can't blame you for that type of ambition.
Berkley Babes wrote:Sounds noble enough.
I want to stop wanting, which just another want.
Berkley Babes wrote:I don't know how Spinoza lived his life. My guess is he wanted to get laid more. But good luck if he is your guide. I like his metaphysical views. And I want to get laid more.
Peter Kropotkin wrote:Berkley Babes wrote:I don't know how Spinoza lived his life. My guess is he wanted to get laid more. But good luck if he is your guide. I like his metaphysical views. And I want to get laid more.
K: getting laid more is a young man's game... and really not worth the trouble....
but why? why do you want to get laid? I say it is simple hormones that drive you,
not rational thought..... remove the hormones and ask yourself, why do I want to get
laid? ego? to uphold some self image I have of myself? or to make some connection
to another human being? I am old but not old enough to have forgotten what it means
to be driven by hormones...... being driven by a million years of evolution....
so rise above those animal instincts and become human by asking yourself, why?
why is sex that important?
and wonder what your answer means....
Kropotkin
derleydoo wrote:I, and 99.999% of the world's population agree with all you have said in the last couple of posts. Tragically, .001% appear to be opposed to such a world. It so happens that they run the show - what is to be done?
Shouldn't you be asleep?
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