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Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:53 pm

How it turned from a movement trying to correct the excesses of established power - like Marxism from where it sprang - into a postmodern movement attempting to eliminate masculinity, or feminize it in accordance with postmodern values.

Let's begin with Paternalism
A method of harnessing human sexuality to group welfare by restricting female and male natural promiscuity.
The female being in control of the ovum was the crucial sex to discipline so as to then integrate as many males into the system as possible, viz., make them invested in the welfare of the group.
In primate social structures, e.g., chimpanzee, the beta male secretly mates with the female, under the dominance of a alpha male, so as to serve as the female's aid in her inter-group conflicts and to aid her when she is weening an offspring.
In recompense for his services the female gives him sex, which may produce an offspring, by hiding from the dominant male who would step in and stop it - punishing both for their indiscretions.

We see something similar in human social systems only adjusted, in modern times, to the fact that the position of dominant, alpha, sit a monopolizing abstraction, with no sexual needs, i.e., the institution, the state.
As such the relationships have to be adjusted to this decisive factor.

First, the dominant masculine entity is not biological so it can be represented by any individual, i.e., male/female, adult/child.

Second, it has no genes to pass-on, but it does have memes instead, so it needs biological males to stand-in as biological sperm donors.

Third, this replacement of genes by memes means the state/institution, owns the offspring fathered by biological males and expects both parents to raise them in accordance to tis ideals, values and principles - memes.

Fourth, the role of protector and provider falls to the institution/state, relegating biological males into the role of surrogate maternal agencies.

Fifth, biological males that insist on passing on memes to the offspring that contradict the institutional/state memes are disruptive, ergo family is more antagonistic to institutional/state power if the male exhibits any masculine traits, such as those challenging authority and order.

Sixth, all of the above are more important when dealing with racially, ethnically, culturally heterogenous social systems, and less so when dealing with homogenous social systems such as those of the past where the king, leader, was of the same culture and blood as all the males under his command.

Seventh, we see that in heterogenous systems nihilism is employed to harmonize/stabilize the disharmonious by imposing values and principles that nullify all forms of natural identifiers. Reinventing the family is part of this process.

Eight, to deal with all these free-radical, un-invested males, the system promotes hedonism, distractions, pornography, essentially placating and sublimating masculine sexual energies into non-disruptive forms.

Ninth, promoting femininity as the socially acceptable ideal, further emasculates - feminizes - males converting them to manageable sexual energy.
Social engineering, or social castration.
Circumcision is a form of symbolic castration, but lobotomizing males by compartmentalizing their consciousness, is another method - schizoids. A method of simultaneously holding two incompatible, contradictory views in your mind without any issues - mind/body dissonance.

I'll stop here.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:23 pm


Transgender politics is now about eradicating all forms of biological identifiers, making all identifiers social.
Individuals will self-create their identity from the market place - using what is trending and in fashion.
Identity can now be manufactured to accommodate institutional/state power.
This is the purpose of detaching concepts from all external referents, using words - words to disconnect rather than connect with reality.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:38 pm


All of human innovation, creativity, is fueled by beta-males struggling to gain access to females.
Self-handicapping is part of this signaling fitness by displaying how much one can endure and still survive.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:08 pm


Emotion trumps reason. The subjective exists, the objective does not.
Feminization of Man.
Making men like women.

Afro-Asiatic spirituality replaces Indo-European spirituality.
Superstition reigns.
Magian versus Faustian.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:30 am

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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:53 am


Jordan Peterson's daughter and the "kill to party" connection to hypergamy aaaaand....ABORTIONS.

Other than the percentage of women that have abortions for medical reasons, or due to rape....more than 90% of abortions are a product of lifestyle choices, and remaining available of the "right man".
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:58 am

Let's put this issue of feminism and the right to abortion into perspective, or, as the human trash-bin would say, into a context.
We have a simple girl from Baltimore named Maty Land.
Mary is waiting for Mr. Right. She has been told that she deserves the best, and nothing less than the best. Her head full of that bullshyte she goes off looking for "the best", even if she's not all that to begin with.
She goes out, day after day, month after month, looking for Mr. Right, but all she finds are Mr. RightNow, or Mr. WhateverICanGet.
But Mary has a high regard for herself, and thinks she deserves better that the average Joe she always seems to attract.
Even if she's average looking, or below average, her market value is high, because males, most males, especially blacks, will fuck just about anything.
Once in a while Mary fucks up and falls pregnant with a man she does not consider Mr. Right, who must be out there....her Prince Charming.
She demands an abortion to rid herself of a problem that will ruin her prospects of finding Mr. Right, because she deserves nothing less, she's been told.
If she has Joe's unwanted fuck-child her market value will drop, severely.....overnight, and permanently.

Now here's the kicker.
She wants - whether she knows it or not - males who she would never consider mate material, not even fuck prospects, to fund her, or to pay their tax dollars to maintain institutions that keep Mary Land from Baltimore safe, providing her with reliable, safe and cheap ways of getting rid of her sexual mistakes.
She expects the males in the clubs she goes looking for Mr. Right, to fund her, joyfully pay their taxes and shut up, so that she can return to these haunts where she will reject them, and choose, time and again, the males who probably pay less taxes than they do, and who will happily fuck Mary, pretending to be Mr. Right, and make her pregnant again, and again.
Why?
Well, according to the human trash bin, Ms. Shitforbrains, they are morally obligated....or "it is the right thing to do".

Morality....because that is what it all comes down to, collectivized burden sharing.....morality.
Just think about how fucked up the situation is.
I repeat...the vast majority of males Mary would not for a minute consider husband material - not even accidentally - are supposed to fund Mary's sexual exploits as she waits or continues searching for Mr. Right which will never be them, and every time Mary makes a mistake, or settles, and then changes her mind, these same men are supposed to step in and shut up, so that Mary can never suffer the consequences of her delusions, i.e., that there is a Mr. Right, out there, and that she deserves him.
And why should they do this insane thing? They have no choice in the matter....they pay their taxes to the state and it allocates the funds to institutions that support and help Mary maintain her lifestyle, making sure her mistakes will never hamper her sexual market value until she in her thirties, when Mary will, suddenly, realize her market value is diminishing and she must act quickly before she remains a spinster.
And men are supposed to do this without complaint, or even an attempt to change the situation.

Look at Peterson's daughter and her story. Peterson.....who must have taught her to make her bed, and not yield to peer pressure.
Tomassi explains it thoroughly over a three-hour session.

What is abortion?
A technology that "corrects nature's injustices" providing women with a safe and reliable and cheap way of not suffer for the consequences of their own narcissistic naiveté and idiocy.
A way for women to maintain a "Sex and the City" modern, postmodern lifestyle.
A way for women to maintain their sexual market value as long as possible, hedging their bets, waiting for their best possible option to arrive. But they can never recognize it because there's always tomorrow, and it is always full of hope and unknown possibilities...so they wait.....and wait....and remain skeptical, and demanding, going from man to man to pass their time until the right guy finally arrives. And he never does because they've priced themselves out of the market place, and because they've wrongly estimated their worth higher than it actually is.
Not until they realize that they can no longer compete with younger, fitter, females do they become desperate enough to settle for whatever they can get.

We live in a feminized world.....and these are the consequences.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:17 am



Single mothers.
I have dated a few in my twenties.
Market value drops.
They bring strange males over. Some of which may abuse their children.
State - institutions - become their provider/protector, leaving only their physical needs/desires to be gratified. They are institutionalized.
Hedonism is all they have left.
Nice Guy may be trapped by them - males that would not normally get laid are given sex - see chimpanzee beta-male dynamic - so that he may step in and become a step-daddy.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Maia » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:18 am

You may be interested in my thread on matriarchy.

https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=197132
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:38 am


Why do males and female become obsessed with an individual.
Akin to addiction.
Addiction is to body what obsession is to mind.

Few options force an individual to over-empohasize what options are available and, more importantly, accessible to him/her.
The need/desire is what is imposing this focus upon an object/objective.
Need = lack
Desire = excess. Libidinal energies, reserved for fight/flight or for procreation/creation. Energies that must be expunged, because preserving them takes effort experienced as stress, anxiety etc.
An individual with multiple options will not obsess on one particular one.
This relative indifference to the specific, the particular, is interpreted as confidence....power.
Power is an aphrodisiac, especially for females.
Ironically, the man most indifferent to the particular female, because he has many other options, is most attractive to her.

Power = options, i.e., possibilities/probabilities.

What did I say about free-will and choice?
Choice expressed will....multiple options to choose from - accessible - indicates freedom, i.e., independence.
Absolute independence, no.
Independence from the particular.

To get into how and why power attracts unintentionally, like a mass attracts a body - gravity - towards tis center, we would have to get into metaphysics and how space = possibilities, and matter/energy =- probabilities - and how form, mass, indicated encompassed and projected energies - patterns creating a filed of effect - aura, magnetic field.

So, in blind tests a woman is given t-shirts worn by a variety of men and she can pick out the one worn by the most attractive male - most symmetrical and proportional.
How?
Scent...pheromones, carrying this symmetry/proportionality in a form other than visual, or acoustic; unconsciously the female perceives and interprets this - judges and chooses - without requiring hr conscious participation - without engaging her ego, her lucid consciousness.
What do women call this?
Chemistry...and they have no clue how or why....they just know. Like they can just know the essence of an individual by his actions, movements, because a female's brain is entirely dedicated towards inter-gropu, dynamics, and cares little about models, strategies, reasons, metaphysics...making her the perfect natural agency.
But nature is not entirely ordered....it is also chaos...and so are females.
So, no stable system can ever be established by females.....and where matriarchy reigns it is usually in places where males must leave their homes - islands living on fishing - or when males must constantly go off to war.
When paternalism wanes, so does civilization....chaos increases.
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Re: Feminism

Postby MagsJ » Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:18 pm

Lorikeet wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2a4EKfkRqk

Why do males and female become obsessed with an individual.

I can currently relate to that.. to cut a long story short: I recently deleted my mutual crush’s number, because it was the healthiest thing to do, for me.. started out, as right place wrong time, so nothing.. currently at, right place right time, yet still nothing.. there is no number in my phone, for me to embarrass myself by messaging or calling, only to be left on Read or ignored.. I, personally, think he found someone else and moved on.. as many months have now passed.

He pursued, and now the feeling is finally fully mutual.. nothing! I have no number in my phone for me to be able to contact the person. I’m out. :D

The private life of Mags.. :romance-admire:


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You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:33 pm


This is the kind of man postmodernism is cultivating.
The state, i.e., institution, is the only permissible masculine entity.
Masculinity is an idea/ideal anyone can embody, by being accepted as a sufficient representative, their biology notwithstanding. It's all theoretical, ideological.
Words referring to more words, circumventing anything tangible, physical real.
This is the code of nihilism: semiology used as a defence against an indifferent unjust world lacking a one-god, universal meaning/purpose, and universal morality.
Nihilism, in any variant, is the ideology/spirituality that "corrects" this absence of an absolute. What is "missing" will be created and projected into it, using symbols/words....infecting minds that will then behave as if the constructs were actually real. So, for all intents and purposes it is real in the minds of the indoctrinated, who act out this conviction without it being actual, or existent outside their collective minds, viz., the collectivization of reality.
This is why I said that nihilism needs converts and is transmitter linguistically from mind to mind...and why the one-god has been replaced by humanity.
Humanity = world; world = humanity.
World is now created by the one-god renamed humanity, that collectively create it from nothing, out of nowhere, or by sampling reality.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:52 pm


Lower IQ populations are more easily indoctrinated into the systemic values, even if they cannot dripline to them for long - gens overpowering memes.
But mentally they repeat the bullshyte they've been brainwashed to consider true.

So, black women have bought into the idea of the "liberated, strong" masculine" woman...and they are predisposed to it since Africans - individuals of sub-Saharan African descent - have higher on average testosterone.
This makes them inclined towards promiscuity, they mature sexually earlier, and they adopt market values with ease: popularity is good, more is best, trendiness is cool etc.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:13 pm

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Re: Feminism

Postby Sculptor » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:35 pm

Yet another clueless thread on ILP
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Re: Feminism

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:19 am

Let's put this issue of feminism and the right to abortion into perspective

Now here's the kicker.......


That is an incredibly bitter analysis of women. It appears that you resent or perhaps even hate the women you find attractive. Is it a question of the power the women have over you?

To suggest a woman repeatedly has sex knowing the outcome will be an abortion is ludicrous to say the least, particularly as in the majority of cases birth control is perceived to be a woman's responsibility, not a man's and we all know that men’s right to control their own lives and their own bodies will never be damaged in this way. The feminization of men is solely caused by men who are demanding the masculinization of women and there is always a price to be paid if liaisons/partnerships/marriages are formed within this criteria.

Human nature does not change and the physical aspects of mating are much the same that they have always been over the decades.

Feminism is dead in the water.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:55 am

A Shieldmaiden wrote:To suggest a woman repeatedly has sex knowing the outcome will be an abortion is ludicrous to say the least,
That this is what you understood is why I disregard anything you say.
It's worse, sweetie....women are clueless, and so they consider their participation innocent and well-meaning.

A Shieldmaiden wrote:Human nature does not change and the physical aspects of mating are much the same that they have always been over the decades.
Your naiveite is known to me...but many on ILP may not be aware of it....despite your age you show a girlishness that may be considered endearing.
What changes, sweetie, is not human nature - genetics are slow to evolve - what changes is human cultures - dominated by ideologies, memetics.
Ideologies impose limits on the expression of human nature, which then determines future generations - social engineering.
Generations of cultivating feminized males leads us to the present and this....
A Shieldmaiden wrote:Feminism is dead in the water.
Yes, because it birthed Transsexuality and fucked itself.
Well, it is all part of the same "logic".
Now, at the very least, women are excluded from athletics as men identifying as women will soon dominate all the sporting events they demanded equal pay for.
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Re: Feminism

Postby A Shieldmaiden » Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:06 am

Lorikeet wrote:
That this is what you understood is why I disregard anything you say.


What I understood, (even though it was not written) was that which I based my reply on below

Lorikeet wrote:
women are clueless


It is not difficult to understand how a racist and sexist man, brought up in a culture of masculine entitlement, would feel overwhelmed with powerlessness when strongly attracted to a woman and see it as simply as humiliation, which then rears its ugly head in the form of rage.

Lorikeet wrote:
Your naiveite, (naivete) is known to me.....


As are your vitriolic attacks on women in general, known to me.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:18 am

A Shieldmaiden wrote:It is not difficult to understand how a racist and sexist man, brought up in a culture of masculine entitlement, would feel overwhelmed with powerlessness when strongly attracted to a woman and see it as simply as humiliation, .
Ha!!

You are a walking stereotype.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:25 am

And, yes, most low IQ women are clueless as to why they do what they do and think as they think, or why they are attracted to males they pretend to not be attracted to and are not to the ones they are supposed to be attracted to....just as are low IQ males.
Mind/Body dissonance.
Mind draws from memes, the body from genes its standard for evaluating the other.
So, the body is drawn to a type her mind knows is not good for her, and is not drawn to the type she knows is...socially speaking.

All intuitively...'cause women just go by feelings, women's intuition...chemistry.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:51 am

everyone can see your pain
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:55 am

You two have so much in common.
Same level.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:00 am

To every man upon this earth
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Re: Feminism

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:08 am

be honest, how much time do you spend watching these videos in a week?
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Re: Feminism

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:10 am

You mad, pimp?
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