The Harmonic Triads

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue May 31, 2022 6:36 pm

The standard is not lowered though we can never always, fully meet it. Instead he descended and fulfilled it in our place so that we could ascend with him into that against which there is no law.

Then there is the fact that man was not made for law, but vice versa, and an order based on an unjust law is an order we are obligated to “teleologically” suspend. *Only* for the One who sees all the way down every road.

And of course, when you take up your cross, you must be willing to accept the consequences, even up to the moment he takes them on himself and turns everything back to Good.
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue May 31, 2022 9:57 pm

So this is where I began to outline the three levels. I did it using conflict resolution. It can be done with anything that starts with a problem and ends with solution—like the scientific method. It is basically the learning/remembering process.

https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 6#p2870896

I consider the three levels nature, nurture, and super. They exist in every sphere (see link for spider example).

Understanding’s Logistics
(resolve/implement new based on old)
Nature 1
Nurture 4
Super 8

Judgment’s Resonance
(where conflict originates and resolves)
Nature 2
Nurture 6
Super 9

Reason’s Rules of Engagement
(work on conflict/resolution)
Nature 3
Nurture 5
Super 7

Kierkegaard might say 1-2 are aesthetic, 3-6 are ethical if they denied 1-2, 7-9 are religiousness A if they moved away from 3-6 on your own steam, and in order to get to Religiousness B you prioritize relationship and trust in God who loves you and wants you to have life beyond mere survival or performance (joy—so, in a way, gets 1-2 back). That love motivates works of love despite fear.
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:24 pm

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This ain’t all me. Synthesized studies.
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:40 pm

obv I didn’t invent this & already showed more complicated/intertwined.

For example…Roman numerals from conflict resolution Venn:
I Nature (pre/unconditioned)
IIa Nurture (unintended conditioning)
IIb/IIIb Second Nature (settled conditioning)
IIIa Super (intended self-conditioning/determination)

Often/Mostly Implicit/Nondeclarative: I, IIa/b
Explicit/Declarative: IIIa/b
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:22 pm

“He who knows nothing, loves nothing. He who can do nothing understands nothing. He who understands nothing is worthless. But he who understands also loves, notices, sees. . . . The more knowledge is inherent in a thing, the greater the love. . . . Anyone who imagines that all fruits ripen at the same time as the strawberries knows nothing about grapes.”

— Paracelsus

Quoted in https://ia800201.us.archive.org/30/item ... m_text.pdf

Recommended by my Ethics prof, Dr. Turner.

(it’s the harmonic triads again)
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:52 pm

But duality proceeds harmony, . But even if harmony is pre existent, who can describe such, other than by a blessed faith that need no eyes to see?

Very elegant and simple question in an age the where even it can be asked of dogs' understanding along the lines of basic logic perceived and recognized in terms of.

Tautological certainty has evolved to some subordinate level of the uncertain, even as exhibited in lower order creatures
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:48 pm

If the complexity is irreducible, the whole is eternal or from the eternal (or from the irreducible in the image of the eternal). Maybe.

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:43 am

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:58 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:If the complexity is irreducible, the whole is eternal or from the eternal (or from the irreducible in the image of the eternal). Maybe.

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Therefore if the image or the eternity are closer to variable certainty, then at least the degrees of separation become less significant/faded and can be a source of revision but not necessarily through changing classes

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:08 pm

Insurance?


meme2 , "yes please, for the joker has not yet appead, and there ain't too many cards left in the deck.(since the joker is wild but 2 isn't.

Now what about Me1. Would You care for insurance, or go back to the one armed bandit , 4 odds are higher there. It will ante upX2 every time meme2 wins unless it's a draw. Get the picture bud?

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:16 pm

Meno_ wrote:Insurance?


meme2 , "yes please, for the joker has not yet appead, and there ain't too many cards left in the deck.(since the joker is wild but 2 isn't.

Now what about Me1. Would You care for insurance, or go back to the one armed bandit , 4 odds are higher there. It will ante upX2 every time meme2 wins unless it's a draw. Get the picture bud?

Me1 ?








>>>>>>


meme2 interrupts with defiant sleight of hand:



"but off, leave the poor guy alone, don't can't you see he is down on his luck, so far.


meme2 pours a large one out of his extra special non alcoholic lager and pours it down the hatch
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:35 pm

Then after a while, M2 awakens from the attempted slumbering humbling counting of the remaining chips of various colors out of his rattle tale shade coat and sweeps them into the pot decrying "all or nothing."


Then to his surprise, meme2 furiously awakens Me1 from his deleterious slumbers and almost screeches at him:

"Hey friend , don't you realize that all this, if it was a houses trick, I would immediately have befriended you, you then could consider the superinflated aura I had to propose to You, given my lack of references and portfolio.

I an standing here before You , naked, magically transported so that I can attune...attune to the only man who'd believe me, especially cause all I want as a reward is neither titles, namely game fame game but an attempt to serialize myself within myself abd not have to be called a fake, (I don't mind weirdos, or even a failed actor or whatever failing even a presentable x something.

In fact all I ever wanted since kid time before TV was a room somewhere with lots of chocolate to eat and get through the history of Turkish occupation of eastern Europe especially when Maria Theresa mother of Antoinette got down on her knees with the latest out of innumerable progeny, wistfully teardrops wiped by her faithful maiden, begging the husszarsz to help her defend Vienna.

From then on recovery has not been all that successful.

I won't even sub counter the girl of peace; wiping her brow in disgusted disbelief:


"How could this be possible or even allowed to masquerade as something other.

Than what?

I won't even allow myself draw this out any farther, and not for the reasons you may necessarily think.



~and that's letting m2>M1 off very lightly.


JUST SAYING
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:37 pm

Anyway^3
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:46 pm

So, death to philosophy as is known, at least the eternal mirroring part through the new Socratic method, because eternity even the imaginative image of it is not reduciable to the original except by those few(saints, prophets, hermits and other oddball vaudvillans ) who don't have to prove nothin' cause no one pays attention to 'em anyways, and they are bested where they always have spun their tails of gold so that whoever is out to collect is quite certain no one can guess their name right?

(Clue: right not left out of an impassable equation on pain of excommunication and/or verse.)
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:50 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Anyway^3



Got it in spite of you not believing the advent as reducible from a constructed ><deconstructed pentecost.maybe


The solemnity today, speaks not as thought as a real meme ( as perhaps a trick playing a devil's advocate ), but truly, verily, a tested sign that;


Hey, maybe there is something real and attestable in an imitation, the truth of that is in its self.


Last words before leaving, (but that's just meant for antidramatic affect)


An Absolute can't contain It,'Self except by an exact Copy.
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:07 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Anyway^3




On those grounds I do agree with You. ^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^


^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ >< 2>1



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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:21 pm

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:38 pm

“antidramatic affect”

how dare you

may he strike you dead

and raise you up to life again

times infinity
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:20 pm

It may work, since when did not an optical illusion affect the affect of blessedness to those, whose eyesight is the only assurance to what really is going 'out there'??

It don't matter if it's an illusionist evil genius, or some mysterious force from within, the idea is, that without such power, the will is unable to take off to meet It at least within one unit of the minimal indiscernable difference.


That is what you stare into when it stares back .
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:58 pm

Meno_ is the ground the same for Nietzsche as for Kant? Is it the Original?

I’ve heard it framed as an unanswerable question … navel gazing, lol.

Anyway, I maybe get to learn how to read again in the Fall.

Hope I get the fair & balanced frame.
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:40 pm

Ischtus ,




Ground is ground. Moral objectivity and subjectivity are primarily reflexive to each other, as if, the constantly test both their mutually derived sources of power , while analyzing the responses there 'in' begotten. The temporal difference , then, becomes a battle between derived appearances. Ontologically they are perceived as firmament of lasting 'structure' and as the repetitions increase, the epistemological leveraging melts the rough edges between the frames of reference/ reverence which are the gate through which the will exercises it's evaluation.(mostly selfhood)

The intuition in kant is mostly aggregate and intuitively categorical, and the Subject tends to require a transcendence (transformation~transmission~transsubstantiation~ and acrual transit - in a reverse order- as Nietche this scheme is reversed. The transvaluation is dab in the middle, the power to will does not come from the aggregate middle of the back and forth throwing of a ball(I always went to sleep as a child with playing with a golden ball- throwing it back and forth then fall ing in a lake from which a frog finding it etc- so embellished a basic ground but extending it to another), but from the actual force derived from the mechanical squeeze between the mechanics which have actually exerted , an initial thrust from the changed interpretation derived from the second law of thermodynamics to it's increasingly rate of change to the second law.

Most of which was I believe available to Nitzche, but allowable some conflating remained with his cogniscence.


The ground shifted, but remained the same, and as it did shift, more and more allowance nay have been given to interpretation.


Schopenhauer could not allow this, this is why he found support in a scientific, colorful representation, that Wittgenstein took over from Kohler. Not perhaps actually but but synthetically. Perhaps.
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:55 pm

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:34 pm

It was Your allusion to the coming Storm, which I reduce to an essential Strum und Dang, not in the sense of being fixated in it, but as a recurring theme as in Gotterdamarung.

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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:08 pm

was Your allusion to the coming Storm, which I reduce to an essential Strum und Dang, not in the sense of being fixated in it, but as a recurring theme as in Gotterdamarung.

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Abstract

This essay examines "The Tempest" in light of models of memory derived from cognitive psychology, sociology, and philosophy, placed within the context of early modern debates about the nature and locus of memory. In "The Tempest", Shakespeare stages profound tensions between an individualist, faculty-based model of memory in which the mind is figured as a "cell" bounded by a monodic subject, and the constant threats to such order and control on the part of other minds represented in the play. Attention to the tensions between control and disorder in memory, allows us to understand three critical cruces of the play: 1) Prospero's apparently unmotivated demand for Miranda's attention during the exposition of 1.2; 2) the destruction of the masque by a moment of forgetting, and the subsequent agitation caused; 3) the play's own apparent amnesia about the founding narrative recounted by Prospero, as Alonso increasingly displaces Antonio as the play goes on"
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Re: The Harmonic Triads

Postby Meno_ » Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:59 pm

Amnesia


Wiped memory
Grund
Kant can't or can ( it)?
(Yed) and/or (No)

Held ground

Should / must

?????? ???
(?) Why?

Cause~Cure

Two triangles to gather 12 tribes = 2 1 triangle per 6 tribes

Can Dan?

Who Dan?


Figure 2 tri angles
Obtuse?
Obscure?

Side by side= 4 sided figure

4- 3= 1
If one leg of any triangle is knocked off ots base and disengaged from the apex, then it falls bringing the other side with it


But the ground stands it has to stand it's ground because NY definition a ground can not fall.


It can tilt or turn reverse

Yes that's true but a ground is a ground is a ground




4 what is a ground of indeterminate length and width and thickness (# of plates or realms or, levels like becket's 'how it is' in absurdity lingo.


The ground can not ungrounded it'sekf hence it is of an inditerminancy which can fill a volume of a minutes particle all the way to self containment.



So dies one of them , one of the three parts of the triangle have to take leave first?


It's like a kind of no exit prisoners' dilemma. Actually a decision between 2 only two prisoners ( while contemplating the question of who shall or Will leave first, ( between 2) the one is contemplating what if he remains will he become the one abd only?




RISKY GAME



But what if it's just another silly game a silly putty game where at the conclusion when all leave or can unnoticeable the exit sign for fear of loosing the clay mask?
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