When I say "Philosophy"

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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:50 pm

..never fails to amuse, Mr R. Use your words, huh!
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:16 pm

if you played that in some country where no one spoke english and they didn't know it was comedy the whole club would be jumping it's a great track
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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:13 am

I believe defaming the ancient Greeks and Hellenes as perverted homosexuals is more of a slander, by their historic enemies, than anything else.

It's quite an indictment if that's the main thing a young person takes away from the revised texts. Perhaps that's intentional.

After all, who would want a population of well-educated, independent minded thinkers???
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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby sacrosanct » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:40 pm

Engaging in philosophical discourse is the main enmity of being a philosopher. As stated by Allan Wood in the book What is Philosophy? "...we are all heirs to the enlightenment". Nothing is more mysterious than Existentialism in context and ritual. Life is a ritual... philosophy is a ritual... therefore life is philosophy. Existenialist philosophers such as Nietzsche and Kierkegard have contributed much epitome to the Philosophical genre of the 20th century. It is so well spoken that the understanding of the human mind both ethically and intrinsically give emphasis to Use Value. I do not contour the meaning of philosophical as thinking or merely guessing the mishaps of a person's individual lifestyle such as fashion or mode of living. It is not immeasurable to say that it is normal because in terms causality it is. And so, as for every contemporary philosophy undergoing change and evolution it is still Socrates that should be regarded as the forefather of Western Philosophy.
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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby Meno_ » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:14 am

Agreed Sacrosanct about the tenuousness of existentialism as compared to philosophy. And it is of some evidentiary notice that the sexuality became of last primal mention.

The reductionism of essential arguments into their material counterpart always spells if many things left behind, sometimes forgotten, sometimes unmentionable.

As the progressive need to construct a ladder to escape darkness, the sought after light is at the end of a tunnel.

Epochs unmentionably barbaric throw a wrench into the subtle precision which constructed ideas of human desire, such as lasting peace, harmony and beauty.

The clockwork breaks, wrenched from it's natural passage and deconstructs it's self, hurling back into a placed where most shudder to imagine lest it returns it's reverse image.

Jung elevated the lighting behind Freud's derivative. shadowed unconscious world.

The irony of it is, that even a collective unconscious can not overcome the singular and sinister doubt, which obviously has been so often been foreshadowed throughout the ages.
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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:51 pm

The question 'what is philosophy' is one true question of philosophy, and it is the same question as 'what is currently the most powerful (dangerous) question?' and all religions, or let's just say, most of them, are results of this endeavor, fruits fallen from that tree, but not as in completions of it but as in successful defenses against it; the best philosophy, the most resilient, refuses to lead to religion, as the questions are too, what's the word, vital, at the same time desolate, to lead to answers that can give rise to systems, or objects of veneration. Psychosis is a natural companion here, obviously. Philosophy is, when it is not attempts to prescribe ways of life to other people, when it is something that is occupied with building itself, the art of bordering on insanity. Thresholding. Most historical philosophers have vacated the threshold during the course of their first works, they found some way to tap the power of that no-land and ferment the lands of the living with it, and this they do not for any kind of purpose but simply to get some kind of result from their natures. Nietzsche took this to the greatest extreme, his character Zarathustra embodies this thresholding and emerging from that threshold with the giant-powers that are the common currency there; the fate of Zarathustra in coming back to the world of men with those powers echos in the chaos of the 20th century and the weirdness of this one - the weapons, tools, that he brought and placed in this world are too powerful for this world and he simply said 'one day the world will be able to wield them' and leaving it up to the world to figure out how to destroy and rebirth itself to this end.

In the old myths, the gods are begotten by titans, giants, beings that have no bearing on human beings, aren't even above them, because they occupy a completely different paradigm of vitality. Religion is for talking to the gods, the demons, summoning magic, having supernatural powers, etcetera - philosophy is simply the weird experience of existing in this titanic paradigm that has no bearing on humanity except for the fact that this kind of philosopher, this type who answers to this stuff Im saying here, happens to be a human being. A shaman, by the way, is something in between religion and philosophy. The path from philosophy to Earth is through shamanism. Nietzsche pines for this possibility and the history of continental philosophy since Nietzsche is one of pining for shamanism.

The risk of the aspiring shaman is to get entangled in religion, as the shaman has almost infinite powers there, yet when he uses them he loses his perspective on them, and he gets influenced by moralities - which are incompatible with the realm of his knowledge, his powers. Philosophy is thus simply irreconcilable. That is the mark of philosophy, that it doesn't resolve itself in the world, but stands like - well, like that monolith in 2001, a Spacey Odyssey. Thats actually a pretty good image of philosophy.

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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby Costard » Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:20 pm

Destiny wrote:When I say "philosophy"

You say sorry?

(Sorry, that's a meme that's been doing the rounds. Not actually about philosophy but adapted here and possibly quite relevant)
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Re: When I say "Philosophy"

Postby Parodites » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:18 am

Destiny wrote:When I say "philosophy" which I don't do so often mind you, it is about my philosophy of doing for example, the necessary labour to get through the week right. I think that's the Greek meaning they gave to it. I tried to read some threads on here and they are so far out. Going around in circles about who is smarter and who has more books in his house to quote from, that and just religious and political anger. I think that is the opposite of what the Greeks said philosophy is. Love of wisdom, isn't that the meaning?

So, here's some philosophy.

Aiiix/appendage q: When I wake up, I go for a swim in the river, even though some people think it is too dirty. It isn't that dirty and it strengthens my immune system to expose myself to some dirt. I started this practice last winter when it was freezing cold. I learned this from a YouTube channel, to not be afraid of the cold. Im feeling a lot less depressed ever since I put on this practice and now that its warm Im so grateful to myself. Though sometimes I cant wait until its freezing again. The river never freezes over, not since the 1980's.

z: I cook with bacon grease. There are two types of digestion, alpha and omega, and I am alpha. That means fried meat is good for me, but peaches aren't, and regular bread isn't either. But bacon grease, is. Praise be upon the piggies! So, eat what is good for your type.

N(n)==>"(n)": I give to beggars, because they're so happy and I like to make such a huge difference in someone's day for so little trouble. Its a selfish pleasure, I dont kid myself. So here's the philosophy: altruism can be a nice form of egoism. Or selfishness. Im not clear if egoism and selfishness are the same thing, maybe one of you book thumpers can teach me.

(p=q)²: I gave up trying to figure out if God exists because of something that I thought really smart someone told me, here goes: God and the Devil are both going to be much smarter than I am so if they're competing for my soul with scriptures and all sorts of other media, I will surely not be able to tell who is which and which is who. So its safer to just be content with my doubts and do what my heart gives in and don't transgress my hearts desires. Maybe God and the Devil are both metaphors for the mysteries of the heart!

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Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat.

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Measure the breaking of the Flesh in the flesh that is broken.
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