the need for control...

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Re: the need for control...

Postby will2010 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:08 am

To everyone,

I have said more than enough, especially about trying to understand how one of the greatest pianists “Horowitz” can be a “shitty pianist” as ECMANDU argued. As you clearly saw, he failed to demonstrate [never giving us a single clip which Horowitz playing the piano “shitty”], on top of the fact he shows severe lack of comprehension shill (which lead him to keep misquoting what I said). So I will NOT wasting any more time with him. So please do not be surprised to not see my reply to him any more. I’m sure some of you may had good time and valuable information based on some of my artistic knowledge I shared here. Anyway, have a great day, everyone! :)
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Re: the need for control...

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:45 am

Show me your favorite Horowitz performance.

I know there’s not much piano online. I won’t fault you for not being able to find it.

Fuck. I’m still waiting for Leslie Howard’s’ ossia version of Liszts transcription of the funeral march in Beethoven’s 7th symphony to be uploaded so I can share it.

I always had a habit of loaning out my favorite books etc... to people and never got them back.

Or even lewenthals le vent.
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Re: the need for control...

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:21 am

Ecmandu wrote:Show me your favorite Horowitz performance.

I know there’s not much piano online. I won’t fault you for not being able to find it.

Fuck. I’m still waiting for Leslie Howard’s’ ossia version of Liszts transcription of the funeral march in Beethoven’s 7th symphony to be uploaded so I can share it.

I always had a habit of loaning out my favorite books etc... to people and never got them back.

Or even lewenthals le vent.


Let’s test your piano knowledge.

These are easy questions.

Who’s the best recorded Scarlatti player ... I’ll make it easier... Liszt played on the same piano and called it divine. I’ll make it even easier, this pianist got a PhD in linguistics from MIT and quit to be one of the most renowned pianists of all time.

Second question. Who plays the best wedding march (Mendelssohn/Liszt)?
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Re: the need for control...

Postby Meno_ » Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:29 am

Ecmandu wrote:
Meno_ wrote:Some consider Liszt to have ever been considered over and above the reach and artistry among all other pianists past and present.

Just saying..


Actually... on the topic of best piano players, I can’t for the life of me remember his name... everytime he performed in front of an audience he played like shit.

Social anxiety. But people would quietly surround is apartment door and listen to him. Apparently he was beyond amazing.

Also, Liszt considered Alkan better than him.




Victor Borge?
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Re: the need for control...

Postby Meno_ » Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:47 am

Just joshing Ec, but i think I agree, Czifra studied at the Liszt Unstitute, and that gives some credence to his affinity for Liszt, one noteable thing, though, List's fingers were very long , which enabled him to cover octaves with more reach of breath then shorter fingered pianists.

That Chopin and Liszt covered similar ideomatic musical structure in Paris' heyday of the later Romantic period, speaks volumes as well.
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Re: the need for control...

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:24 am

I just want to drive in the nail Meno.

This is another easy question will...

Who’s the best player of Beethoven’s opus 2?

Otherwise known as Beethoven’s first sonata?
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Re: the need for control...

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:28 am

Ecmandu wrote:I just want to drive in the nail Meno.

This is another easy question will...

Who’s the best player of Beethoven’s opus 2?

Otherwise known as Beethoven’s first sonata?


Here’s another easy question about Beethoven ...

What sonata has a passage so difficult nobody knows how Beethoven played it?
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Re: the need for control...

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:50 am

Will.

I’ll give you the answers in order:

Charles Rosen
Louis Kentner
Andre Schiff
The Hammerklavier

Any concert pianist knows this.

You probably don’t know what puzzles pianists about the hammerklavier.

Beethoven wrote (and performed) a triple trill on one hand... six notes, only five fingers.

They think he rolled his thumb or pinky, but they’re not sure.

No pianist has ever recorded the triple trill.

Are we done yet?
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