Re: Double edged sword Demian

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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:45 pm

Ierrellus wrote:I'm an old hippie, knocking on the door of death, hoping some of the ideals I leaned will live long after I'm gone. It wasn't always this way. with me. In the 60s I was ultraconservative. My awakening came after hearing of the assassinations of John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King and the killings of students at Kent State and Jackson State.




I am an aging wistful topi-toe mocking on heavens'dpor a white nighted surrealistic satin pillow ticking besides surrealistically strawberry fielded strawberry alarm clock loud:

Boom boom the shots rang out . The night was very blue fading to dark black: while the red bricked red neoned walls of the new York minute walls of around 1920's showing underneath the decade's stipped off .

The reds luminously throb desire; as damien watched the solemn cry now the black birds sweetly alluringly awaiting morning break the long night's journey.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:28 pm

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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:01 pm

Sitting on a bunk whiling my time away way
Hey brother gimme a dime
scarred
Scarred
Of it but it's OK
Philosophy balm will plaster blaster it away
So one of these lonely times can look back in mirror
And say you'll laugh about it in the morn sunshine
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:25 pm

Double visionary ground groundless can can
Can't can't
Securely fastened and a bridged
Why & why not
Paris lit in moonlight


The why and the why not of it
DAMIANSWOONING


There is a method to the MAD
Do need to out the spell my dear child.

Are you gonna ' exorcism me for it?

(On a sprung day awaiting the day of holy week)

So can can?
Or can't
(Can't cant or can?
If not can it.


Proof positive?
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Sun Apr 10, 2022 5:08 pm

Wiki:


"Kant was a Gnostic and a racist. He advanced colonialism in direct conflict with his philosophy. His bias blinded him to obvious contradictions.



Does that invalidate either Kant , the gnostic state of mind?


This question is profound and needs to find it's own ground- ( in it's self: through and for it's self.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:58 pm

Unless someone has actually professed belief in anything having to do with Gnosticism, and there is evidence of that professed belief, don’t believe any source that tries to claim them for Gnosticism. I’ve seen so many things on the Internet etc. that try to claim a thinker for Gnosticism or atheism, or try to say they’re only responding to pressure from the church when they sound like they hold Christian belief. Total garbage.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:45 pm

In fact the only remaining deontological 'proof' I need is the very complex(unheard progression of colors from goethe through Wittgenstein and beyond ; to validate that the source was authentic.

Course who'd believe it plus it not only gives some pause. but frequent bouts of nausea.


But I must confess of being with a few acquainted with the light; but the automy has to be unique in every case notwithstanding..here, certainty may be, as MagsJ implies previously , a very saturated and colorful event.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:15 pm

Maybe I will be studying Goethe & Wittgenstein before I graduate. But. Not to prove anything.

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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:31 pm

Signs, signals, partially derived sense& sensation; or wholly imagined whollyness all derived of resources which are either predestined or, is/ are discerned by God.

These are cut off branches off of the tree : preliminary reboot Beyond cut off reach , except carried by a north wind.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:39 pm

Meno_ wrote:Signs, signals, partially derived sense& sensation; or wholly imagined whollyness all derived of resources which are either predestined or, is/ are discerned by God.

These are cut off branches off of the tree : preliminary reboot



And the spending leaves blown about hither and neither are proof positive of all built temples. Attachment and discernment are separable by a fine virtual line.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:59 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Maybe I will be studying Goethe & Wittgenstein before I graduate. But. Not to prove anything.

The monkey flies from the eagle’s nest at the strike of four, a week from Tuesday as the crow blinks.




What will you study after graduation?
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:49 pm

I can’t see that far.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:15 pm

"Invention is the mother of necessity"


Thorstein Veblen
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby MagsJ » Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:17 am

Meno_ wrote:But I must confess of being with a few acquainted with the light; but the automy has to be unique in every case notwithstanding..here, certainty may be, as MagsJ implies previously , a very saturated and colorful event.

..and what event is that?
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

Examine what is said, not him who speaks ~Arab proverb

aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:01 am

MagsJ wrote:
Meno_ wrote:But I must confess of being with a few acquainted with the light; but the automy has to be unique in every case notwithstanding..here, certainty may be, as MagsJ implies previously , a very saturated and colorful event.

..and what event is that?


my guess: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 4#p2866394
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:29 am

I wish. However in some context that we breached before; the adage of 'that necessity is the mother of invention was brought up and the next followup vonsisted with the inquiry: then, who was the father?


That the father's commission with this project may also appropriates such logic I'd questionable; for men are usually ascribed toward reason and convension- I was actually seeking such negative between reason and intuition.

And this on top of seeking furtherance between the above difference between intuitively derived topography and reasonably mapped out planning(what have you in mind after graduation?)

My guess gives more generally expansive latitude than topography can allow.


The fact that I could not find the context about which the answer to how the father could factor in between invention and necessity, set a variable postulated on ended presumption, which fed it's self back onto the equation; feathering the definitively changing set up minutely, in accordance with Leibnitz's interest.

It occurs the two modes of description and ground becoming tediously tautological, but hesse's take seems congruent and identifiable to earlier representations down the line.

I will publish yhis, as merely illustrating the diminishing function that deprogramming vectors may lead to original relationships between form and content

Had an allusion have not been made, the crude terms it was attuned to; do prove a parametric intuitive form of seeking the most probable ones which may have preceed it.

So the original event is a negative curved probability function where the actual spatial arrangement of the bridges corresponded to the 'graph' where they could be plotted and not the process by which the arithmetic could be applied.

So much for making a mobile out of a mountain.

I think this comment has merit, but then the 'event , in fact that I am working on is of seeking the light, and reassuring myself that seeking it and knowing what reaching such a state, can not by topography or a graph lead to.

Further such journey without the actual ground upon such 'bridges' were constructed, could not be rationally endured without like minded.

I have had one, that I recently found, who has trailblazer the way , so that I may not make the journey solidarity.

It is a Saint if not, he should be one; and hence some of the illuminative ',miracles' I believe, which have come my way.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:37 am

unsung

we do not negotiate

con los terroristas
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:59 pm

Bridges. Reduction to ansurdum? I ll have to look at it closer not that the smile on of math to graphic topography would interest the guy and liebnitz.

Here on vacation
In the cold for a week .having to face that necessary evil which was no invention really.


but there must be a solution.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:02 pm

The solution is to seek the kingdom and turn away from counterfeits. Want what is real in the actual. Then he will give you the desires of your heart. And mind. Etc.

My keyboard has a key that says space on it. Right after is a key that says return on it. The back arrow has on x on it. I don’t feel well.

The top three words before I typed were:
i okay you

my son has a copy of “I’m Ok - You’re Ok”

lol

Nothing feels like chance, but the signs point to a space I shouldn’t return. At least not the way things were when God brought me back.

So I seek the kingdom.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:44 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:The solution is to seek the kingdom and turn away from counterfeits. Want what is real in the actual. Then he will give you the desires of your heart. And mind. Etc.

My keyboard has a key that says space on it. Right after is a key that says return on it. The back arrow has on x on it. I don’t feel well.

The top three words before I typed were:
i okay you

my son has a copy of “I’m Ok - You’re Ok”

lol

Nothing feels like chance, but the signs point to a space I shouldn’t return. At least not the way things were when God brought me back.

So I seek the kingdom.


Matthew 22:14). The testimony of Jesus is “the spirit of prophecy.” (Revelation 19:10).>>>>>>>

Many are called few are chosen.

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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:59 pm

Meno_ wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:The solution is to seek the kingdom and turn away from counterfeits. Want what is real in the actual. Then he will give you the desires of your heart. And mind. Etc.

My keyboard has a key that says space on it. Right after is a key that says return on it. The back arrow has on x on it. I don’t feel well.

The top three words before I typed were:
i okay you

my son has a copy of “I’m Ok - You’re Ok”

lol

Nothing feels like chance, but the signs point to a space I shouldn’t return. At least not the way things were when God brought me back.

So I seek the kingdom.


Matthew 22:14). The testimony of Jesus is “the spirit of prophecy.” (Revelation 19:10).>>>>>>>

Many are called few are chosen.

Kathryn Kuhlman


"I believe in miracles"








Never look back unless you are planning to go that way. -

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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:09 pm

Proverbs 16:9.

Make plans … God laughs.
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Re: Double edged sword Demian

Postby Meno_ » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:43 pm

Laughs at me and with me for being a gnostic. Kan't was, that made him inspired to question even Jesus' ground He walked on, sure, He illuminated the world: through His self illuminated ground, but even Nietzche was inspired by cynics, who questioned the sheep's competence to understand directly that , which ascended their comprehension:

Most would are compelled to rise above by earthly laws that threaten an excommunication alienation ; with the punishingly severe threat of the edge of the double edged sword; into the loss of reasonable application of it; no Occan's razor to rehabilitate into the fermenting simplicity left behind; no fall and then again redemption's promise.

No. only Irraneus' cynicism , the anti-Socrates mirage, can set straight that left too long not to question.

Simplicity can still, the war, the enigma of the ring primarily that Kierkegaard can literally be held to. The mirror of the Word need not but eat it's own tale in the circle of true love: that of Circe's, and others' be it that which feigned Sicrates' hemlock or Christ'' Passion.

The underbelly of the beast , thus a fallen apple no more, but such as it was already forgiven and paid for many times over.

The Ring that fiery Ring solid and forged in a Testament forged: the old with it, that Faust is both free and determined but the cause of causes is beyond and inescapably returning again and again to the same theme of what love really is.


It is both , beyond sheeply comprehension, but made real by the same flesh they denounce: Their God, our torment.
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