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Re: Brain vs Mind

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:47 pm

felix dakat wrote:If by energy you mean the quantitative property that must be transferred to a body or physical system to perform work on the body or to heat it as physicists do, then by defining mind and body as patterns of energy, your theory is ultimately a physicalist one. Whereas according to the double aspect theory, the physical and mental are two aspects of some third X. Spinoza called it the universal substance. William James called it beyond subjectivity and objectivity. Schelling called it the identity of spirit and nature. Schlierermacher called it the universe or the cosmic whole. Hegel called it absolute spirit. Heidegger called it Being.

I call it energy for now since that is the closest understanding I have to it, but its not an energy our scientific equipment can detect. I believe it is physical but not visible from a living perspective in this dimension, however we can feel it when we process emotions.

From your eyes down to your stomach, within that area we not only process but we exert our emotions as energy. Mid-torso up to our eyeballs.

I don’t know if you have ever felt emotionally charged, but if you ever have or do, realize that your emotional reactions will radiate as “energy”, be it intuition in your gut, as nervous butterflies in your stomach, as disgust in your throat and stomach, as joy and triumph from your head, as love from your chest, in all the areas from your eyes down to your stomach every emotion is processed and reflected back into your immediate environment.

You’ll never feel an emotion radiate in any of your limbs or your lower torso because that is not where your mind/soul resides in your body. Emotionally charged energy is palpable, its physical.

Ever walked into a room where people have been fighting and you can feel that energy around those people without having been present for the fight?

In other dimensions the mind/soul is visible. I believe what all of them are referencing is the mind/soul as their “X”, but like I wrote earlier still undiscovered by our sciences.
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Re: Brain vs Mind

Postby felix dakat » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:04 pm

WendyDarling wrote:
felix dakat wrote:If by energy you mean the quantitative property that must be transferred to a body or physical system to perform work on the body or to heat it as physicists do, then by defining mind and body as patterns of energy, your theory is ultimately a physicalist one. Whereas according to the double aspect theory, the physical and mental are two aspects of some third X. Spinoza called it the universal substance. William James called it beyond subjectivity and objectivity. Schelling called it the identity of spirit and nature. Schlierermacher called it the universe or the cosmic whole. Hegel called it absolute spirit. Heidegger called it Being.

I call it energy for now since that is the closest understanding I have to it, but its not an energy our scientific equipment can detect. I believe it is physical but not visible from a living perspective in this dimension, however we can feel it when we process emotions.

From your eyes down to your stomach, within that area we not only process but we exert our emotions as energy. Mid-torso up to our eyeballs.

I don’t know if you have ever felt emotionally charged, but if you ever have or do, realize that your emotional reactions will radiate as “energy”, be it intuition in your gut, as nervous butterflies in your stomach, as disgust in your throat and stomach, as joy and triumph from your head, as love from your chest, in all the areas from your eyes down to your stomach every emotion is processed and reflected back into your immediate environment.

You’ll never feel an emotion radiate in any of your limbs or your lower torso because that is not where your mind/soul resides in your body. Emotionally charged energy is palpable, its physical.

Ever walked into a room where people have been fighting and you can feel that energy around those people without having been present for the fight?

In other dimensions the mind/soul is visible. I believe what all of them are referencing is the mind/soul as their “X”, but like I wrote earlier still undiscovered by our sciences.

Yes I have felt emotionally charged and I've had the experience of a room seemed charged with the electricity of emotions. And yes energy is one of the words people find suitable for X. However, X may or may not be limited by what is known of the laws of physics. So perhaps it would be wise to think of it as energy metaphorically not literally. In other words our claims about this X are phenomenological. That is they're about how it seems, not about it what it is ultimately. When we make claims about what it ultimately is we're either in the realm where physics and psychology intersect or in the realm of metaphysics. In the first instance it seems we need controlled experiments and in the second it seems there's no possible way to ground our speculation.
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