"Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:38 am

yo quiero taco bell heh!
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ierrellus » Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:51 pm

I love avocados, yogurt, etc,; but the majority of my meals are frozen dinners delivered by Meals on Wheels. I eat what is delivered.
BTW, yesterday the tree outside my window was filled with Robins.
So there remains, after everything else loosed from Pandora's box is gone, hope.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby MagsJ » Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:07 pm

Ierrellus wrote:I love avocados, yogurt, etc,; but the majority of my meals are frozen dinners delivered by Meals on Wheels. I eat what is delivered.
BTW, yesterday the tree outside my window was filled with Robins.
So there remains, after everything else loosed from Pandora's box is gone, hope.

..and there-in could part of your problem, lie. If you have access to an online grocery delivery service, perhaps think about ordering fresh produce from them.

On another note.. I cut down my morning egg-yolk intake from 3 to 2, and my energy levels and mood took an instant hit, so I’ve cranked those babies (well they literally are..) back up to 3, and so got instantly back-upto previous energy and mood.

Crazy, huh!
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:32 pm

You eat fertilized chicken eggs for breakfast? They must not be commercially sourced. Grody.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby MagsJ » Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:02 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:You eat fertilized chicken eggs for breakfast? They must not be commercially sourced. Grody.

Lol!

Grody.. now that’s a new one.
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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby felix dakat » Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:24 pm

Grody to the max!
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby MagsJ » Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:06 pm

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They sell chicken eggs, fertilised?
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:53 am

I watched a documentary about it once.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby MagsJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:08 pm

MagsJ wrote:They sell chicken eggs, fertilised?

I never knew that.. seeing as I don’t eat em.
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:15 pm

MagsJ wrote:
MagsJ wrote:They sell chicken eggs, fertilised?

I never knew that.. seeing as I don’t eat em.


Then they literally are not babies.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:16 pm

Scan for babies:

MagsJ wrote:
Ierrellus wrote:I love avocados, yogurt, etc,; but the majority of my meals are frozen dinners delivered by Meals on Wheels. I eat what is delivered.
BTW, yesterday the tree outside my window was filled with Robins.
So there remains, after everything else loosed from Pandora's box is gone, hope.

..and there-in could part of your problem, lie. If you have access to an online grocery delivery service, perhaps think about ordering fresh produce from them.

On another note.. I cut down my morning egg-yolk intake from 3 to 2, and my energy levels and mood took an instant hit, so I’ve cranked those babies (well they literally are..) back up to 3, and so got instantly back-upto previous energy and mood.

Crazy, huh!
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby MagsJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:37 pm

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Let’s concentrate on MagsJ equating chicken eggs to baby chickens, rather than:

I cut down my morning egg-yolk intake from 3 to 2, and my energy levels and mood took an instant hit, so I’ve cranked those babies (well they literally are..) back up to 3, and so got instantly back-upto previous energy and mood. Crazy, huh!

..the matter at hand. ^^^
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:42 pm

Why did you equate them, though? Is that not a worthy curiosity‽
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:43 pm

What is the matter at hand, again??
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ierrellus » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:34 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:What is the matter at hand, again??

Mental illness and the future of treatment. Suggestions for one's well-being are not out of place here. Suffering from major depression, I need all the help I can get.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:40 pm

Connection in the right order.

Not claiming to be an expert.

We are all works in progress.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ierrellus » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:04 pm

Experts nowadays seem to rely on juggling neurotransmitters for therapy. Lord knows what side effects this causes. Nuances of causes and effects of brain chemistry in "normal" operations are not too well known.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:54 pm

It is frightening how they decide what drugs to treat certain symptoms these days. On many levels.

Praying.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Meno_ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:29 pm

How would they treat a split opinion between multiple personality and_ or disassociate personality?
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:16 am

Experiment: The Trinity is not a disorder, so if sharing your skull with a mind that doesn’t go away when you ignore it, and appears to also share its skull with you, talk to the Trinity about helping you be a good imitator of that relationship. Ok to flip it off occasionally, methinks, if you’re into that.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Meno_ » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:36 am

Meno_ wrote:How would they treat a split opinion between multiple personality and_ or disassociate personality?




It's better to be multiplicity some could imagine then a disassociate, for at least the outside could imitate the inside ; while the inside can only suggest to those gathering outside.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:07 am

If this were the late 19th century, your doctors would be advising an extended trip to Egypt. Then, if it was the early 20th, you would probably be getting daily electroshock.

This doesn't mean anything, just things I think are interesting.

There is a serious question whether depression can even be approached medically at all. It is such an elementally personal experience, and connected irrevocably to so many actual and specific circumstances.

I do believe one can cheat the brain a little, though. Fresh air, changing the place where the depressive mind tends to refuse to leave at almost any cost. I'm not saying be around people, which maybe mid 20th they would have insisted on, as a mind in such a tender state is not up to the task of dealing with the comparatively violent mental states of people in functional frames of emotion.

Then also there is the fact that the depressive mind has a tendency, heavily reinforced by almost any and everybody who deigns to give an opinion, to believe or want to believe that it is just a physical problem, like a flue. That the thing or things that worry you aren't real, or that important, that it is a problem of overobsessing. I tend to say that it is the opposite. That probably the thing that worries you is very real, and very important to you, and the first thing is to take this thing, and your own feelings about it, yourself, seriously. Probably the thing that worries you is very grave and is not going away. The idea of belittling it reinforces what likely is the root cause of the condition itself: a feeling of powerlesness.

My advice is to accept the situation as real, your concern justified, and my belief is that this will begin to have an effect of a slight feeling of power. It then likely happens that, since you cannot change the thing directly int he way you would wish, you do require a change of perspective, but not about the importance of the thing. Rather, in regards to yourself. If this thing is important to you, really matters to you, the first thing is to get a grip so that you can start being useful. However long it takes, however weird it may be. To become the person that is up to the task of what worries you. Nobody's perfect.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:13 am

I guess my point is that I think the pain is justified.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:29 am

Snowing here. Beautiful.
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Re: "Mental" Illness: The Future of Treatment

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:34 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:I guess my point is that I think the pain is justified.


Sometimes *not* to feel pain would be the signal of disorder.

We do recover.
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