Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby MagsJ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:57 am

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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:10 am

MagsJ says:


"Does the reward override the guilt, in such types?"



No.
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby MagsJ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:22 am

Meno_ wrote:MagsJ says:


"Does the reward override the guilt, in such types?"



No.

So why be compelled to repeat a pattern that leads to a negative?
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

Examine what is said, not him who speaks ~Arab proverb

aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:39 am

MagsJ wrote:
Meno_ wrote:MagsJ says:


"Does the reward override the guilt, in such types?"



No.

So why be compelled to repeat a pattern that leads to a negative?




Because accentuating the positive often, more often them not , leads to it's negative.
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby MagsJ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:51 am

Meno_ wrote:
MagsJ wrote:So why be compelled to repeat a pattern that leads to a negative?

Because accentuating the positive often, more often them not , leads to it's negative.

Because being positive, doesn’t mean a positive outcome.. or at least not all of the time, but sometimes?

Most times would be more preferable, I guess.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:00 am

Not really, it's just as circuitry can change directly by increasing the changing the source of energy, re: manipulating voltage and ampere, so can A/DC be manipulated by changing the magnetic frequency within the coil, by transforming the direction of the current-like from the back to the front, that is, if grounded.
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby MagsJ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:28 am

Meno_ wrote:Not really, it's just as circuitry can change directly by increasing the changing the source of energy, re: manipulating voltage and ampere, so can A/DC be manipulated by changing the magnetic frequency within the coil, by transforming the direction of the current-like from the back to the front, that is, if grounded.

Are you suggesting that prosecuted kleptomaniacs should be electrocuted? :-s
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

Examine what is said, not him who speaks ~Arab proverb

aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:12 pm

No. What I am angling toward is the suggestion to an imbalance that develops between having to pay for supposedly conscious choices( whether they coincide with the relative nature of what a fully conscious state is) versus the rebounding value of that choice, is either one: having too steep a price, either in real terms after a legal adjudication, or one that a person feels bad about.

Society"s challenge consist in an outward sourced punisment, that by analogy inflicts electromagnetic punishment that takes some slack out of stares like depression, where a person is less likely to be effected by negative brain/ electrical energy sources, if his 'conscious' realization has a bias against society's approach toward conviction and punishment.

The anology is proper , because there is noticeable electronic circuitry, measurable, that d I change variable through the very separate segments if the cortext.

In case of theft, these variable neuron associations may build up and deify internally and project the difference or introjected it. Either way, an electrocution may still hapoen, by a case of a very severe shift in internally built up imbalance and a guilty oerson, even guilty for a slight, may suffer celebral hemmirage, and in that sense, literally iver charge himself, within the build up of an unbounded potential negative energy built up within the internal circuitry of his mind/brain. In that sense, there is no need to differentiate between the brain and the mind..
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby Meno_ » Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:08 pm

Are Kleptos more active on rainy days?
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby MagsJ » Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:33 pm

Meno_ wrote:Are Kleptos more active on rainy days?

Are rainy days more boring than non-rainy days, that push kleptos to procure others’ goods in order to ensure that a boring day becomes less boring, by fulfilling a need to activate the feel-good receptors in the brain?
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

Examine what is said, not him who speaks ~Arab proverb

aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Are kleptomaniacs worse off ?

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:26 am

Meno_ wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:
Meno_ wrote:?


i think they'll be fine




They would be? Even if their activity goes on for a long time, will their conscience notbother them?



i think it might come down to the individual. sort of like addicts, there are those who care that they're wrong, and those that don't.
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