Can dogs think phenominally?

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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Sculptor » Sun May 22, 2022 5:25 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Not dogs, but…
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3398142/

Language requires normativity. Betting it’s mutually produced.

When we communicate, it follows rules, & vice versa.

Thinking is communicating with subsisting self, so…


This article cannot exclude dogs, they also have a range of communications.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun May 22, 2022 5:37 pm

I admittedly only read the abstract. But I totally agree.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Mon May 30, 2022 9:29 pm

Sculptor saya:


"This article cannot exclude dogs, they also have a range of communications."



Therefore they have to be included. They think by cues, as signs but not out of logic, but by recognition.



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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Sculptor » Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:21 pm

:lol:
Meno_ wrote:https://youtu.be/B7yOO4oKMVc
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jun 06, 2022 4:55 pm

Sculptor wrote::lol:
Meno_ wrote:https://youtu.be/B7yOO4oKMVc






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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:55 pm

"Can a Dog Have Autism? While some of these behaviors are unique to humans, researchers have found that, in fact, ASD can occur in dogs, but it's called canine dysfunctional behavior (CDB). Researchers believe that canine dysfunctional behavior is an idiopathic condition, meaning "that the cause is unknown."Oct 26, 2021




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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:39 pm

I think I might have CDB.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:08 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:I think I might have CDB.



You poor thing!!

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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:09 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:I think I might have CDB.


OR

You lucky thing..

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/basics/cbd
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:22 pm

I do not require medicine. According to most people who may or may not be telling their real thoughts.

p.s. CBD doesn’t get you high (so I’ve heard), so where’s the luck? Not that I would need to.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:37 pm

There are natural alternatives which are not even called medicine. No worries in any case.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:56 pm

Do I have “I need alternatives” on my back?

Laughter is the best medicine, and as natural as the created universe.

You got something else in mind?
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:47 am

No, not really. , sorry.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:43 am

I forgive you. Just don’t let it happen too many more times or I will have to draw the line randomly at some point.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Sculptor » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:04 pm

Next time I have a severed limb, or a heart attack, or my cancer comes back.
All I need to do is laugh it off.

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I can eschew the microsurgery to reattach my arm; Refuse the resuscitator and turn away the chemo and radiation. I'll just watch a bit of Ricky Gervais or Billy Connelly - his "Audience With.." is a monument of 20thC comedy.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:41 pm

Gate Control Theory
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:43 pm

Off the wall menoic speculation:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1 ... 8/2/025007


source-rescourse compression birds of a feather fly to gather, so?

No worries about it, even if. the simple compression of 2nd law of thermodynamics generates the intent to configure where it comes from

Discard if unsensible/ insensible.(or supersensible-duperseed
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:46 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:I forgive you. Just don’t let it happen too many more times or I will have to draw the line randomly at some point.




Deliniation/out of line reverse relation ying-yang
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:47 pm

Meno_ wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:I forgive you. Just don’t let it happen too many more times or I will have to draw the line randomly at some point.




Deliniation/out of line reverse relation ying-yang





Course: give credit where it's due, in due course.
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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:48 pm

Sculptor wrote:
Otto wrote:@ Meno.

"Can dogs think phenomenally?"

A note on language:

The question is not only whether dogs know and use a vocabulary, beacuse the question is also whether they furthermore use a grammar and thus a language, a dog language.

It's not only a vocabulary, it's even a grammar, albeit a very primitive grammar. Moreover, even a vocabulary is of no use at all without meaning and the grammatical linking of these meanings. All this must have a sense. All creatures have to do with a meaning. Life differs from death by sense.


There is a grammar of scent and body language dogs have that we cannot be party to,
When dogs learn human words, as they do, they are learning not only a foreign language but a xenomorphic one.
They have also evolved a system of barks, and other noises that no other similar species has, and relate directly to their human-dog interaction.





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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:49 pm

Meno_ wrote:
Meno_ wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:I forgive you. Just don’t let it happen too many more times or I will have to draw the line randomly at some point.




Deliniation/out of line reverse relation ying-yang





Course: give credit where it's due, in due course.
Understood.





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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:18 pm

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Re: Can dogs think phenominally?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:21 pm

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