Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

The origins of the imperative, "know thyself", are lost in the sands of time, but the age-old examination of human consciousness continues here.

Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:08 pm

Whatever you declare...omnipotent one.

Eν, Εργο....You are omniscient, so you are fluent in Greek.,...only koine, no. So not so omniscient.
It will suffice.
At work...in the process of.
Agitation.
ΕΓΡΗΓΟΡΣΗ
Flux.

I prefer your machine.
Your weakness must patronise. Its how not omnipotent you truly are. Feeble, in fact....needy.
It's interesting that your "omniscience" must be acknowledged, appreciated, for it to be useful.
No, not interesting...its predictable.

Now back to giving us word-walls full of references.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby MagsJ » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:14 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:I would say that Our energy is the soul..

Soul is not physical. 8-[

Do you not think that the released energy, upon death, contains a blueprint from our former self?

What is your take on what the soul is? I think it needs to be something tangible..

Same questions to Lorikeet?

Parodites.. 11 dimensions? What would 11 dimensions look like, compared to our 3?
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:28 pm

I explored this with Maia...

All is energy. Meaning all is interactive, dynamic, probability - conceptualized as vibrations in 4-diemsional space/time and oscillations in multi-dimesional space/time.
Order = repeating consistent, predictable pattern, sequence, rhythm.
Chaos = sequence lacking pattern.

Energy is not to be confused with the convectional type....since it can be both matter and energy. Mater is nothing more than a slower form of energy. Liquid a faster...and what we conventionally refer to as energy the fastest.

Order = probability of interaction across dimensions in a particular sequence. The sequence, and rhythms and speed, is what is interpreted by a conscious mind as a kind of mater.
Different sequences, different rhythms, different speeds, are interpreted as different kinds of matter.
Same goes for energy.

Matter - slow, relative to the metabolism and processing speeds of the observer.
Energy - fast, relative to the metabolism and processing speeds of the observer.

That aside...lets get into the stuff you will like
Life energy - aura - is an organisms aggregate energies oscillating/vibrating in unison producing a field of energy around the individual . this is aura.
We receive info from it subconsciously. Like a magnetic field.
Its size is determined by the organism's vitality, and its constitution. It interact with what is within its proximity.
This is what women refer to as chemistry.
Magnetic fields in relative harmony. Love.
Harmony reduces repulsion - it is attraction. Hate.
Disharmony, dissonance, is repulsive.
Nothing is ever in complete harmony - no absolutes - so attraction is a matter of degree. Degree of attraction, relative to repulsion.

This is also based on my positions on how personality is produced.
Personae (private, true face) = organ hierarchies. Genetic.
Character (public face) - how personae adapts, adjusts to environment - in human contexts how it adapts, adjusts, to socioeconomic and moral circumstances, i.e., group dynamics.
Character is a performance.
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Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his gods

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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:01 pm

Lorikeet wrote:Whatever you declare...omnipotent one.

Eν, Εργο....You are omniscient, so you are fluent in Greek.,...only koine, no. So not so omniscient.
It will suffice.
At work...in the process of.
Agitation.
ΕΓΡΗΓΟΡΣΗ
Flux.

I prefer your machine.
Your weakness must patronise. Its how not omnipotent you truly are. Feeble, in fact....needy.
It's interesting that your "omniscience" must be acknowledged, appreciated, for it to be useful.
No, not interesting...its predictable.

Now back to giving us word-walls full of references.


You ignored what I said. All isn't energy. I explained why: higher dimensional physics. Is this simple enough for you? Exactly how retarded do you want me to make myself sound before you're able to understand what I said? But about the word walls of references:


Gentle reader, I presume thou wilt be very inquisitive to know what antic or personate actor this is, that so insolently intrudes upon this common theatre, to the world's view, arrogating another man's name; whence he is, why he doth it, and what he hath to say; although, as [7]he said, Primum si noluero, non respondebo, quis coacturus est? I am a free man born, and may choose whether I will tell; who can compel me? If I be urged, I will as readily reply as that Egyptian in [8]Plutarch, when a curious fellow would needs know what he had in his basket, Quum vides velatam, quid inquiris in rem absconditam? It was therefore covered, because he should not know what was in it. Seek not after that which is hid; if the contents please thee, [9]“and be for thy use, suppose the Man in the Moon, or whom thou wilt to be the author;” I would not willingly be known. Yet in some sort to give thee satisfaction, which is more than I need, I will show a reason, both of this usurped name, title, and subject. And first of the name of Democritus; lest any man, by reason of it, should be deceived, expecting a pasquil, a satire, some ridiculous treatise (as I myself should have done), some prodigious tenet, or paradox of the earth's motion, of infinite worlds, in infinito vacuo, ex fortuita atomorum collisione, in an infinite waste, so caused by an accidental collision of motes in the sun, all which Democritus held, Epicurus and their master Lucippus of old maintained, and are lately revived by Copernicus, Brunus, and some others. Besides, it hath been always an ordinary custom, as [10]Gellius observes, “for later writers and impostors, to broach many absurd and insolent fictions, under the name of so noble a philosopher as Democritus, to get themselves credit, and by that means the more to be respected,” as artificers usually do, Novo qui marmori ascribunt Praxatilem suo. 'Tis not so with me.

[11]Non hic Centaurus, non Gorgonas, Harpyasque
Invenies, hominem pagina nostra sapit.
No Centaurs here, or Gorgons look to find,
My subject is of man and human kind.
Thou thyself art the subject of my discourse.

[12]Quicquid agunt homines, votum, timor, ira, voluptas,
Gaudia, discursus, nostri farrago libelli.
Whate'er men do, vows, fears, in ire, in sport,
Joys, wand'rings, are the sum of my report.
My intent is no otherwise to use his name, than Mercurius Gallobelgicus, Mercurius Britannicus, use the name of Mercury, [13]Democritus Christianus, &c.; although there be some other circumstances for which I have masked myself under this vizard, and some peculiar respect which I cannot so well express, until I have set down a brief character of this our Democritus, what he was, with an epitome of his life.

Democritus, as he is described by [14]Hippocrates and [15]Laertius, was a little wearish old man, very melancholy by nature, averse from company in his latter days, [16]and much given to solitariness, a famous philosopher in his age, [17]coaevus with Socrates, wholly addicted to his studies at the last, and to a private life: wrote many excellent works, a great divine, according to the divinity of those times, an expert physician, a politician, an excellent mathematician, as [18]Diacosmus and the rest of his works do witness. He was much delighted with the studies of husbandry, saith [19]Columella, and often I find him cited by [20]Constantinus and others treating of that subject. He knew the natures, differences of all beasts, plants, fishes, birds; and, as some say, could [21]understand the tunes and voices of them. In a word, he was omnifariam doctus, a general scholar, a great student; and to the intent he might better contemplate, [22]I find it related by some, that he put out his eyes, and was in his old age voluntarily blind, yet saw more than all Greece besides, and [23] writ of every subject, Nihil in toto opificio naturae, de quo non scripsit. [24]A man of an excellent wit, profound conceit; and to attain knowledge the better in his younger years, he travelled to Egypt and [25] Athens, to confer with learned men, [26]“admired of some, despised of others.” After a wandering life, he settled at Abdera, a town in Thrace, and was sent for thither to be their lawmaker, recorder, or town-clerk, as some will; or as others, he was there bred and born. Howsoever it was, there he lived at last in a garden in the suburbs, wholly betaking himself to his studies and a private life, [27]“saving that sometimes he would walk down to the haven,” [28]“and laugh heartily at such variety of ridiculous objects, which there he saw.” Such a one was Democritus.

But in the mean time, how doth this concern me, or upon what reference do I usurp his habit? I confess, indeed, that to compare myself unto him for aught I have yet said, were both impudency and arrogancy. I do not presume to make any parallel, Antistat mihi millibus trecentis, [29]parvus sum, nullus sum, altum nec spiro, nec spero. Yet thus much I will say of myself, and that I hope without all suspicion of pride, or self-conceit, I have lived a silent, sedentary, solitary, private life, mihi et musis in the University, as long almost as Xenocrates in Athens, ad senectam fere to learn wisdom as he did, penned up most part in my study. For I have been brought up a student in the most flourishing college of Europe, [30] augustissimo collegio, and can brag with [31]Jovius, almost, in ea luce domicilii Vacicani, totius orbis celeberrimi, per 37 annos multa opportunaque didici; for thirty years I have continued (having the use of as good [32]libraries as ever he had) a scholar, and would be therefore loath, either by living as a drone, to be an unprofitable or unworthy member of so learned and noble a society, or to write that which should be any way dishonourable to such a royal and ample foundation. Something I have done, though by my profession a divine, yet turbine raptus ingenii, as [33]he said, out of a running wit, an unconstant, unsettled mind, I had a great desire (not able to attain to a superficial skill in any) to have some smattering in all, to be aliquis in omnibus, nullus in singulis, [34] which [35]Plato commends, out of him [36]Lipsius approves and furthers, “as fit to be imprinted in all curious wits, not to be a slave of one science, or dwell altogether in one subject, as most do, but to rove abroad, centum puer artium, to have an oar in every man's boat, to [37] taste of every dish, and sip of every cup,” which, saith [38]Montaigne, was well performed by Aristotle, and his learned countryman Adrian Turnebus. This roving humour (though not with like success) I have ever had, and like a ranging spaniel, that barks at every bird he sees, leaving his game, I have followed all, saving that which I should, and may justly complain, and truly, qui ubique est, nusquam est, [39]which [40]Gesner did in modesty, that I have read many books, but to little purpose, for want of good method; I have confusedly tumbled over divers authors in our libraries, with small profit, for want of art, order, memory, judgment. I never travelled but in map or card, in which mine unconfined thoughts have freely expatiated, as having ever been especially delighted with the study of Cosmography. [41]Saturn was lord of my geniture, culminating, &c., and Mars principal significator of manners, in partile conjunction with my ascendant; both fortunate in their houses, &c. I am not poor, I am not rich; nihil est, nihil deest, I have little, I want nothing: all my treasure is in Minerva's tower. Greater preferment as I could never get, so am I not in debt for it, I have a competence (laus Deo) from my noble and munificent patrons, though I live still a collegiate student, as Democritus in his garden, and lead a monastic life, ipse mihi theatrum, sequestered from those tumults and troubles of the world, Et tanquam in specula positus, ([42]as he said) in some high place above you all, like Stoicus Sapiens, omnia saecula, praeterita presentiaque videns, uno velut intuitu, I hear and see what is done abroad, how others [43]run, ride, turmoil, and macerate themselves in court and country, far from those wrangling lawsuits, aulia vanitatem, fori ambitionem, ridere mecum soleo: I laugh at all, [44]only secure, lest my suit go amiss, my ships perish, corn and cattle miscarry, trade decay, I have no wife nor children good or bad to provide for. A mere spectator of other men's fortunes and adventures, and how they act their parts, which methinks are diversely presented unto me, as from a common theatre or scene. I hear new news every day, and those ordinary rumours of war, plagues, fires, inundations, thefts, murders, massacres, meteors, comets, spectrums, prodigies, apparitions, of towns taken, cities besieged in France, Germany, Turkey, Persia, Poland, &c., daily musters and preparations, and such like, which these tempestuous times afford, battles fought, so many men slain, monomachies, shipwrecks, piracies and sea-fights; peace, leagues, stratagems, and fresh alarms. A vast confusion of vows, wishes, actions, edicts, petitions, lawsuits, pleas, laws, proclamations, complaints, grievances are daily brought to our ears. New books every day, pamphlets, corantoes, stories, whole catalogues of volumes of all sorts, new paradoxes, opinions, schisms, heresies, controversies in philosophy, religion, &c. Now come tidings of weddings, maskings, mummeries, entertainments, jubilees, embassies, tilts and tournaments, trophies, triumphs, revels, sports, plays: then again, as in a new shifted scene, treasons, cheating tricks, robberies, enormous villainies in all kinds, funerals, burials, deaths of princes, new discoveries, expeditions, now comical, then tragical matters. Today we hear of new lords and officers created, tomorrow of some great men deposed, and then again of fresh honours conferred; one is let loose, another imprisoned; one purchaseth, another breaketh: he thrives, his neighbour turns bankrupt; now plenty, then again dearth and famine; one runs, another rides, wrangles, laughs, weeps, &c. This I daily hear, and such like, both private and public news, amidst the gallantry and misery of the world; jollity, pride, perplexities and cares, simplicity and villainy; subtlety, knavery, candour and integrity, mutually mixed and offering themselves; I rub on privus privatus; as I have still lived, so I now continue, statu quo prius, left to a solitary life, and mine own domestic discontents: saving that sometimes, ne quid mentiar, as Diogenes went into the city, and Democritus to the haven to see fashions, I did for my recreation now and then walk abroad, look into the world, and could not choose but make some little observation, non tam sagax observator ac simplex recitator, [45] not as they did, to scoff or laugh at all, but with a mixed passion.

[46]Bilem saepe, jocum vestri movere tumultus.
Ye wretched mimics, whose fond heats have been,
How oft! the objects of my mirth and spleen.
I did sometime laugh and scoff with Lucian, and satirically tax with Menippus, lament with Heraclitus, sometimes again I was [47]petulanti splene chachinno, and then again, [48]urere bilis jecur, I was much moved to see that abuse which I could not mend. In which passion howsoever I may sympathise with him or them, 'tis for no such respect I shroud myself under his name; but either in an unknown habit to assume a little more liberty and freedom of speech, or if you will needs know, for that reason and only respect which Hippocrates relates at large in his Epistle to Damegetus, wherein he doth express, how coming to visit him one day, he found Democritus in his garden at Abdera, in the suburbs, [49]under a shady bower, [50]with a book on his knees, busy at his study, sometimes writing, sometimes walking. The subject of his book was melancholy and madness; about him lay the carcases of many several beasts, newly by him cut up and anatomised; not that he did contemn God's creatures, as he told Hippocrates, but to find out the seat of this atra bilis, or melancholy, whence it proceeds, and how it was engendered in men's bodies, to the intent he might better cure it in himself, and by his writings and observation [51]teach others how to prevent and avoid it. Which good intent of his, Hippocrates highly commended: Democritus Junior is therefore bold to imitate, and because he left it imperfect, and it is now lost, quasi succenturiator Democriti, to revive again, prosecute, and finish in this treatise.
You have had a reason of the name. If the title and inscription offend your gravity, were it a sufficient justification to accuse others, I could produce many sober treatises, even sermons themselves, which in their fronts carry more fantastical names. Howsoever, it is a kind of policy in these days, to prefix a fantastical title to a book which is to be sold; for, as larks come down to a day-net, many vain readers will tarry and stand gazing like silly passengers at an antic picture in a painter's shop, that will not look at a judicious piece. And, indeed, as [52]Scaliger observes, “nothing more invites a reader than an argument unlooked for, unthought of, and sells better than a scurrile pamphlet,” tum maxime cum novitas excitat [53]palatum. “Many men,” saith Gellius, “are very conceited in their inscriptions,” “and able” (as [54]Pliny quotes out of Seneca) “to make him loiter by the way that went in haste to fetch a midwife for his daughter, now ready to lie down.” For my part, I have honourable [55]precedents for this which I have done: I will cite one for all, Anthony Zara, Pap. Epis., his Anatomy of Wit, in four sections, members, subsections, &c., to be read in our libraries.

If any man except against the matter or manner of treating of this my subject, and will demand a reason of it, I can allege more than one; I write of melancholy, by being busy to avoid melancholy. There is no greater cause of melancholy than idleness, “no better cure than business,” as [56] Rhasis holds: and howbeit, stultus labor est ineptiarum, to be busy in toys is to small purpose, yet hear that divine Seneca, aliud agere quam nihil, better do to no end, than nothing. I wrote therefore, and busied myself in this playing labour, oliosaque diligentia ut vitarem torporum feriandi with Vectius in Macrobius, atque otium in utile verterem negatium.

[57]Simul et jucunda et idonea dicere vita,
Lectorem delectando simul atque monendo.
Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat.

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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:09 pm

That wall of references wasn't me though, that was Robert Burton.

In 4-dimensions, all of time is rolled up in a single superpositional state. (All of our timeline.) The entire time-continuum becomes a single point on the surface of the higher-dimensional manifold, the 4-d brane. But in the fifth dimension, all possible superpositional states are integrated as a single point- all possible timelines, all the parallel universes (the "multiverse") compatible with our own universe's physics. In six-dimensional space, universes with different constants, different particle physics, etc. are integrated- this is the level of binary ur-alternatives, a pure informational space. You can keep going up these levels of abstraction, but stopping at six is weird enough.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:19 pm

It doesn't matter who you referenced....you've declared, you've proven nothing.

Energy needs no proof.
We see it. We experienced it.
You, like most nit-wits need a higher or lower plane of existence to project your insanity into.
Energy is a state, not a thing.

Metaphysics must remain disciplined to physics, otherwise it becomes nonsense...nihilism.
Anything can be justified as being in a "higher" or "lower" plane...occultism.

And yes...I thought it was clear, I never read anything you post.
I skim....after you declared yourself omniscient, you told me you are insane.
Telegraphed it...that you made clear and concise.

You will not be remembered....your writing will not be appreciated in the future.
You are a man-child- with high IQ, trying to cope with a world that it doesn't like, and cannot adapt to - unfit.
But it ain't enough...
Sorry.....tough love.

Challenge yourself.
Write with as few words and references and Latin and Greek, as possible, what you think. Write is clearly.
Then move on.
If its worth shit, someone will appreciate it.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:22 pm

I've gone into great detail on higher dimensional physics on this forum before. Oh, you want me to stop right now and go through the entire thing for you, right here, and prove to you... prove what? All of modern theoretical physics?

And I did just write with few words when answering Magsj. I went up to six dimensions, in terms of thinking through ascending levels of abstraction. The risk of simplifying yourself that much is that you end up saying nothing and making no sense, as you just did with your "energy is its own proof" thing.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:26 pm

I'm a sick guy with a high IQ, huh?

And you're a fucking babbling simpleton with nothing to say and a low IQ. Also no sense of humor, as per the omniscience thing. Anyways, fuck off. "Energy don't need no proof; there I am Lorikheet and I just refuted all of modern physics!"
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:27 pm

Multi-dimensional space/time is nothing new.

What are you attempting to prove with it?

Energy works on multi-diemsions....not vibrations - 4-diemsional space/time - but oscillations.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:28 pm

Parodites wrote:I'm a sick guy with a high IQ, huh?

And you're a fucking babbling simpleton with nothing to say and a low IQ.
Moron...most everyone on ILP has a higher than average IQ.
You are not special.

You are sick.
Anyone who declares himself a genius is ill. Need is your illness.
No, desire.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:29 pm

Lorikeet wrote:Multi-dimensional space/time is nothing new.

What are you attempting to prove with it?

Energy works on multi-diemsions....not vibrations - 4-diemsional space/time - but oscillations.


Anyone who needs to tell someone else how hard they're not gonna read their shit: that's pretty indicative of being needy. I don't care. I didn't know who you were until yesterday.

I'm not talking about space-time. Read it again. The 4-d spacetime manifold is progressively surpassed by higher dimensional manifolds. At the sixth, we've entered a regime that can only be described information-theoretically, since energy cannot flow between universes with different constants.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:30 pm

Back to the OP
Love....looking for love in higher dimensions?
Justifying multi-diemensional eros?

Ananke...she was the original primordial one.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:34 pm

Parodites wrote:
Lorikeet wrote:Multi-dimensional space/time is nothing new.

What are you attempting to prove with it?

Energy works on multi-diemsions....not vibrations - 4-diemsional space/time - but oscillations.


Anyone who needs to tell someone else how hard they're not gonna read their shit: that's pretty indicative of being needy. I don't care. I didn't know who you were until yesterday.

I'm not talking about space-time. Read it again. The 4-d spacetime manifold is progressively surpassed by higher dimensional manifolds. At the sixth, we've entered a regime that can only be described information-theoretically, since energy cannot flow between universes with different constants.
That's a theory not a fact. Theoretical physics.
In theory everything is posible...in fact...not so much.
In theory god exists.
Yet to prove multi-universes. Another theory.
A theory about a theory.

All that to repeat what is currently believed in modern physics?
See...nothing new.

And you are correct....not going to respond to you again.
Back to the wall of words.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:35 pm

Yeah back to the OP. Hey, check this out: your shit's fucking stupid, and the statement "energy is its own proof" doesn't mean anything. (That's what happens when you simplify your language too much.) You refused to address anything I said, not because it was too complex or you were entirely unable to understand it, but because you don't have anything to say.

Why did you, especially considering I've never spoken to you before and don't know who you are, feel the need to attack my personal life and shit? You know what- keep it to yourself. Not a good way to start things with me. I take great pride in not being a little insecure, petulant fucking clown: I leave peoples' lives out of it. I responded to you in the other thread, Philosophy ILP style. That's all I've got to say to you.

If you were seriously interested in arguing with me on a matter of philosophy- you would have. You can't. You don't have a philosophy. What you decided to do, was be a belligerent fucking troll.

And yeah my original contributions to theoretical physics are sparse, considering the ones I am working on in, well, 10 different areas, including original music theory. You're going to reject what I said because it's not original? We're talking about PHYSICS asshat.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:37 pm

Parodites wrote:Yeah back to the OP. Hey, check this out: your shit's fucking stupid, and the statement "energy is its own proof" doesn't mean anything. (That's what happens when you simplify your language too much.) You refused to address anything I said, not because it was too complex or you were entirely unable to understand it, but because you don't have anything to say.

Why did you, especially considering I've never spoken to you before and don't know who you are, feel the need to attack my personal life and shit? You know what- keep it to yourself. Not a good way to start things with me. I take great pride in not being a little insecure, petulant fucking clown: I leave peoples' lives out of it. I responded to you in the other thread, Philosophy ILP style. That's all I've got to say to you.


I didn't say energy is its own proof, did I?
I said we can experience energy it requires no proof.

and right....you can waste your time as you wish.
Wont bother you in your insanity.

Remember.
Write drunk, edit sober.

Ta, Ta, twat...
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:41 pm

Oh, well that's even dumber then. We can experience energy it requires no proof. That literally... it doesn't mean anything. Does it?

I write and edit sober; I write and edit drunk.

I would have liked to talk to you like a man, but you decided to be a fucking cretinous troll buddy. The thing is, I actually like being nice to people. But yeah, your wounded pride, the fact that I make you feel small, and stir your insecurities, made that impossible apparently.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Parodites » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:49 pm

Parenthetically- is it my writing, my knowledge, or the fact that I am able to fully commit myself to my vision, live as an island, totally unconcerned with the entire mass of mankind even if every single one of them rallied to burn me at the stake, while I calmly follow my vision of what is right and true, to complete my destiny on this earth- which of these makes you feel the most insecure? You seem singly invested in my personal life. I don't know what to tell you man, you have to believe in yourself. I am able to live in a way that would break most people down, that would make most kill themselves, as I pursue my vision at the expense of everything else, giving it everything that I have, down to the last bit of energy I have, down until there is nothing left, until I am dead- calmly, and in good spirit, unaffected. I can do that because I have true self-belief. My life is actually a long, extended rapture. You know the flow states people talk about? Imagine the greatest you have ever had, extended to infinity. Be it composing symphonies or writing philosophy, it all feels the same to me. I am simply in that state permanently. I am truly happy, and my writing is meant to be a kind of celebration- as is all these references I dug up. In the other thread, Philosophy ILP style, I explain- simply- why, why I do that, what the point is. You could have simply asked me why I do that, what the goal is.

But then I am starting to talk to you like a person, I need to stop myself. Like I said, much as I'd like to talk to you like a man, you decided to make that impossible.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:24 pm

Back to love...

Love = harmony.
Resonance between patterns or combinations of patterns.
Harmony indicates a degree of agreement on rhythms, speeds, tones...melody.
Higher degrees of harmony means lower degrees of dissonance, of friction, of repulsion.

Love between organisms.
Resonance of their aggregate energies, creating a field of interactivity - aura.
Like a planet's magnetic field in space - producing gravity and, sometimes, an atmosphere.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby MagsJ » Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:46 pm

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Love is a many splendoured thing.. so someone once said.

I say.. love is an assault on the senses, but a welcome one.

I have found recent modern love to be toxic.. reflective of the toxic world we now find ourselves in.

I think love can happen by chance, but we have to be open and undamaged by previousness, and we will then become easy to love and find love.. why do I think this? because I swoon and attract often.
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:46 pm

MagsJ wrote:_
Love is a many splendoured thing.. so someone once said.

I say.. love is an assault on the senses, but a welcome one.

I have found recent modern love to be toxic.. reflective of the toxic world we now find ourselves in.

I think love can happen by chance, but we have to be open and undamaged by previousness, and we will then become easy to love and find love.. why do I think this? because I swoon and attract often.
such reverence for intoxication.
Numbing oneself to the real, is a way of coping.

A woman's power lies in lust....renamed love.
Her encompassing womb.
Gestating, weening, what it has accepted...tricked to not react to.

Such a wonderful intoxication ...overcoming mortality.
Through woman man owns or is disowned by the future.
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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby MagsJ » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:19 pm

Lorikeet wrote:such reverence for intoxication.
Numbing oneself to the real, is a way of coping.

In knowing what the real is, One can reside in the realm of reality-numbing intoxication/the unreal.

I dwelled in the very real, for the last few years.. it wasn’t for me, it was hades-personified, so I’ve been giving it a very wide berth this year.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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Re: Love doesn't happen by chance or does it?

Postby Lorikeet » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:09 pm

Reality is not for everyone.
Intoxication requires abandonment to hormones and impulses, without overthinking them.

A dancing star must be hot with pathos.
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