a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:36 pm

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby origami » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:58 pm

What a great song.

Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the streetwise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?

Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed
Late at night, I toss and I turn
And I dream of what I need

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure, and it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life
Larger than life

Somewhere after midnight
In my wildest fantasy
Somewhere, just beyond my reach
There's someone reaching back for me

Racing on the thunder
And rising with the heat
It's gonna take a Superman to sweep me off my feet, yeah

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure, and it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night

Up where the mountains meet the heavens above
Out where the lightning splits the sea
I could swear there is someone, somewhere watching me
Through the wind and the chill and the rain
And the storm and the flood

I can feel his approach like a fire in my blood
(Like a fire in my blood, like a fire in my blood
Like a fire in my blood, like a fire in my blood, blood)

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure, and it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong, and he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure, and it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night


Of course, give women a hero, then suddenly they need a hard working man.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:51 pm

Werner Twertzog

American airports are important for teaching the bourgeoisie what it is like to be homeless.


Lessons learned?

And then I said, "Your building sucks, Rem Koolhaus, if that is your real name."

What else could he say?

It is important to go "above and beyond" so that you will not blame yourself when you are fired.

Besides, the bosses like that.

Of the Yeti I have known, many have a dark sense of humor.

Pick one:
1] Genes
2] Memes


Meta-performing the meta-performative is exhausting, as we all know.

Is this a Zuck thing?

So the lady at the Suicide Hotline said that I have a pretty good argument.

Then get it done.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby origami » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:38 am

Some people believe in intellectual rigour and discipline, some people just want the cleansing hell fire to finally take them.

I don't know whether to be depressed or throw a party.

"I don't know much about it but I am right." Isn't that just modernity in a nutshell?


Or, sure, the exact opposite.


It's not you, it's the cocaine.

If anybody is having this problem, PM me.

"Will you reconsider your position on global warming if I show you the facts?" "The elders wouldn't be happy."

He's gone off the rails now.


An age where "fuck the government" is the conservative position.


What does that make the rebels?

I fought the law, but then me and the law stared into eachother's eyes and one of us exploded and one of us had the other's eyes.


He watched Scanners too many times?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:43 pm

Ed Yong

Richard Stouthamer discovered a group of asexual, all-female wasps, which only reproduced by cloning themselves.


Fucking nature!

Every person aerosolises around 37 million bacteria per hour.

Next up: per lifetime.

It’s hard stuff, this science business, but someone’s got to do it.

More or less well compensated.

The Earth is 4.54 billion years old. A span of time that big is too mind-boggling to comprehend, so let’s collapse the planet’s entire history into a single calendar year. Right now, as you’re reading this page, it is 31st December, just before the stroke of midnight. Humans have only existed for the 30 minutes or fewer.

Cosmos!

When Orson Welles said "We're born alone, we live alone, we die alone", he was mistaken. Even when we are alone, we are never alone. We exist in symbiosis - a wonderful term that refers to different organisms living together. Some animals are colonised by microbes while they are still unfertilized eggs; others pick up their first partners at the moment of birth. We then proceed through our lives in their presence. When we eat, so do they. When we travel, they come along. When we die, they consume us. Every one of us is a zoo in our own right -- a colony enclosed within a single body. A mutli-species collective. An entire world.

Great, just what we need, another reminder of that.

The brutal contract of natural selection ensures that if one partner is unnecessary, it gets dumped.

Thank God?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby origami » Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:59 pm

Communists forget that they can represent whatever they want, but the hand they have is still the hand they have.

You choose:

A) Genes
B) Memes
C) Cream
D) Dreams
E) Oscar
F) Wilde
G) In the
H) Stream
I) God
J) Pod
K) Mod
L) Sod
M) Motherfucking Ichabod


Intelligence precludes obedience.

Yeah but intelligence doesn't help you figure who is the bad guy and who is the good guy. Intelligence sounds like some bullshit banker scheme.

God is the immensity of the sky.

:lol:

Some people are terrifyied by the idea of the lack of an elemental structure. It probably separates people that own themselves from people that don't.

Women too?

Intellectual rigour refers to accountability of ideas. If all you can trace an idea to is a feeling, that is a lack of rigour.

All the way up to the First Cause, so to speak.

It's a tragedy of analytic philosophy that Russel is lionized and Lippmann is forgotten.


Right, like he knows anything about either...
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:25 pm

:banana-dance:

No, seriously.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:26 pm

Jeff Beck

After I saw Jimi Hendrix play, I just went home and wondered what the fuck I was going to do with my life.


Now we know.

My first wife said, 'It's either that guitar or me,' you know -- and I give you three guesses which one went.

Anyone here doubt that?

Nowadays music is as disposable as a McDonald's wrapper.

Not here of course: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=177676

I play purely from the heart, y'know, and so if it doesn't work the first couple of hours, forget it.

Or, occasionally, the first couple of days.

... by far the most astonishing guitar player ever has got to be Django Reinhardt ... Django was quite superhuman, There's nothing normal about him as a person or a player.

Never heard of him, right?

I play the way I do cause it allows me to come up with the sickest sounds possible. That's the point now isn't it?

You tell me.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby origami » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:31 pm

Django is overrated. A little up, a little down, no content. The talent was there, though.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:38 pm

Existential Comics

It turns out that this whole time when the rich talked about how "working hard" gets you ahead, what they actually meant was "investing in real estate".


You know, if working hard in the factory gets you enough dough to do it.

By age 30 you should have a group of friends who talk about things like anarchism, the propaganda of the deed, and their conspiracy to assassinate Czar Alexander II. Not things like pop culture.

My guess: fat chance.

There is no greater level of nihilism than cheerleadering an acceleration towards global war.

Of course: SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

If you work at Lockheed Martin you are ontologically evil, and thus can be cyber bullied without limit.

True story: My father worked at Martin Marietta and I live a couple of football fields away from a Lockheed Martin facility. Does that count?

I know it's a hard concept for Americans to grasp but we are not actually in charge of the sovereignty of others States.

Manifest Destiny, baby!!

When Nancy Pelosi talks about "freedom loving" Taiwan the only thing I can think about is the last "freedom" for Americans she fought for was the freedom of congressmen to trade individual stocks.

They don't call it crony capitalism for nothing.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby origami » Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:59 am

"If you knew my life, you would understand me." This is true for everybody. In the end, the Gods must be allowed to work it out.

Or, sure, whatever that means.


How do you defeat somebody whose victory is to have overcome his own intelligence to make an emotional affirmation?


You don't, of course. He has defeated himself.

It is probable that the highest of victories are uncommunicable and entirely personal.

Kierkegaard's Religious Man?

How much of thought is the tennuous negotiation terms built up historically?

For drones, probably all of it.


The question isn't what beauty is good for. The question is of anything else how it is good for beauty.


An apology of the ugly?

Images are never subjects, always weapons.


News flash: all the original gods of war were women.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:34 pm

Bart D. Ehrman

Making these “predictions” of the future was relatively easy when the real author was living after the events he “predicted.”


I'll bet it was.

This is the only verse in the entire Old Testament that uses the term “everlasting life.”

Anyone here know which verse that is? You'd think there would hundreds of verses given that acquiring everlasting life for some is the whole point of religion.

When the soldiers seize him, all his disciples flee. But there is someone else there, “a young man” who is “clothed with a linen cloth over his naked body.” The soldiers grab this unnamed man, but he escapes, nude, leaving them with the linen cloth in their hands (Mark 14:51–52). Who is this person?

Anyone here know? A guess perhaps?

One of Jesus’s characteristic teachings is that there will be a massive reversal of fortunes when the end comes. Those who are rich and powerful now will be humbled then; those who are lowly and oppressed now will then be exalted.

This is basically Karl Marx's point too. Only with a different agenda.

Plato, too, had emphasized a kind of dualism of shadow and reality, matter and spirit.

Yep, and that's still going around today.

Christian followers of Jesus who knew about Apollonius maintained that he was a charlatan and a fraud; in response, the pagan followers of Apollonius asserted that Jesus was the charlatan and fraud. Both groups could point to the authoritative written accounts of their leader’s life to score their debating points.

Yo, Maia! Yo, her!
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:00 pm

Yo, Biggy! I do love trivia & getting answers right, so I’m intentionally resisting the easy ones you OBVIOUSLY teed up just for li’l ol’ me.

But. I hadn’t heard the Apollonius one before, or didn’t recall it, so… here’s this:

http://christthetao.blogspot.com/2015/1 ... s.html?m=1

Maia… had you heard of Apollonius? (assuming you’re not a sock puppet)
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:23 pm

:lol:

No, seriously.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:02 pm

God

I genuinely don't remember making you all this stupid.


Yo, Mr. Pinhead! I'll never stop reminding Him.

I apologize to some of you for most of you.

It's about fucking time!

Apocalyptically hot enough for you?

Around here, it's not the heat, it's those goddamn severe thunderstorms.

I wouldn't belong to any mythology that would have Me as a member.

Paraphrasing Woody, of course.

Never bother asking the question "Can people really be that stupid?"
You already know the answer.


Reminded every day here, right?

I'm not saying you're doomed, but you might not want to take out a 30-year mortgage.

Vague enough for you?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:48 pm

Brian Eno

Put out as much as you can. It doesn't do anything sitting on a shelf.


Of course you can take this too far. Here, for example.

The difficulty of always feeling that you ought to be doing something is that you tend to undervalue the times when you’re apparently doing nothing, and those are very important times.

He wondered if he was doing nothing now.

I have a definite talent for convincing people to try something new. I am a good salesman. When I'm on form, I can sell anything.

What, including country music?
Aside, of course, from the good stuff.


Frequently, I go straight into the studio and see what's around. I might hire a couple of instruments that I've never used - maybe a particular type of electronic organ or an echo unit. Then I just dabble with sounds until something starts to happen that suggests a texture. The texture suggests some kind of mood, and the mood suggests some kind of lyric.

The texture. Someone explain that to me.

We're going through this super-uptight era, which I think comes entirely from literacy, actually. It's the result of machines that were designed as word processors being used for making music.

Someone explain that to me too.

What happens with notation is that it reduces things to a language which isn't necessarily appropriate to them. In the same way that words do, you get a much cruder version of what was actually intended.

Hmm. Is this even explainable at all?
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:52 pm

Job 34 Then Elihu said:

2 “Hear my words, you wise men;
listen to me, you men of learning.
3 For the ear tests words
as the tongue tastes food.
4 Let us discern for ourselves what is right;
let us learn together what is good.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:24 pm

:banana-dance: :lol: #-o [-o< :oops: :banana-dance:

No, seriously.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:33 pm

The Onion

Alarming Study Finds Only 20% Of Unwanted Babies Adopted By Wild Animals


Mostly wolves of course.

Ice Machine Reaches Deep Within Itself To Give Man One More Cube

What, no YouTube video?

Area Man Always Thought He’d Squander His Life Differently

Not many areas that isn't applicable to.

Report: States Quietly Raising Speed Limits Near Failing Schools

Pragmatism!

HHS Declares You Can't Let Monkeypox Hold You Back If You Have Chance To Get Laid

Can anyone here confirm this?

Earth Spinning Faster Than Usual, Has Shortest Day Ever

A couple of nanoseconds at least.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:06 pm

iambiguous wrote::banana-dance: :lol: #-o [-o< :oops: :banana-dance:

No, seriously.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:53 pm

Seriously, however, the only thing more pathetic at the New ILP than the Kids and the Pinheads making a mockery of philosophy, are their ignominious attempts at being "clever".

They actually think that they are!!! :lol:
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:14 pm

Harlan Ellison

You must never be afraid to go there.


Where, he wondered.

Don't start an argument with somebody who has a microphone when you don't.

Or get your own microphone.
Take his, for example.


Writing is the hardest work in the world. I have been a bricklayer and a truck driver, and I tell you that writing is harder.

Especially good writing.

I will use big words from time to time, the meanings of which I may only vaguely perceive, in hopes such cupidity will send you scampering to your dictionary: I will call such behavior 'public service'.

Cupidity: "greed for money or possessions"

Now begin in the middle, and later learn the beginning; the end will take care of itself.

How's that working out for you?

I have no mouth. And I must scream.

For some, the human condition in a nutshell. Or at least theirs.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:01 pm

The Onion

Depressed Cat Just Going Through Motions Of Destroying Couch


Next up: How to tell.

Alex Jones Concedes Sandy Hook Happened On Mars

Martians file dafamation lawsuit.

God Wonders What Happens To Humans After They Die

That can't be good.

Estonia Announces Interest In Assuming America’s Role As Global Superpower

Any objections?

Refreshingly Frank Therapist Suggests Shooting President

Refreshingly frank Secret Service responds.

Area Man Will Be Judge Of Whether Woman Actually True Baseball Fan

He wondered if that was even possible.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

Danny Embling: "People wonder how Hitler managed to get so many followers...it's never surprised me."
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby origami » Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:47 am

"You want to make $20,000 in two weeks?"
"I'm listening."
"If you're willing to work hard,"
"Fuck this guy."


What's life without work?

The question is not what philosophy can do for politics. The question is what politics can do for philosophy.

Up next: what can you do for me?


I am become brain, purveyor of thrones.

We're doing that free association bullshit again?

"Why do you work so hard, when I will not try at all and laugh at you?""Booty doesn't care if you laugh."


:lol:

I fought the law, but the law didn't notice.


CNN did.

The point about the terror of life is not that it must be avoided to find beauty. It is that it is what gives it beauty.


And he believes this?
There's no one thing that's true. It's all true.
Ernest Hemingway
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