a thread for mundane ironists

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:14 pm

Bob Marley

The truth is, everyone is going to hurt you. You just got to find the ones worth suffering for.


Nope, not yet.

One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.

Actually, that's more like the top ten things about music.

Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet.

Then those who get soaked to the fucking bone.

None but ourselves can free our minds.

Yeah, in a song maybe.

If she's amazing, she won't be easy. If she's easy, she won't be amazing.

Anyone amazing here?

The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively.

Right, in this world!
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:54 pm

Excistential Comics

What's funny about Trump is that he was obviously doing crimes and cheating his taxes his whole life, and absolutely no one cared when he was just a regular billionaire.


Well, they don't call it crony capitalism for nothing.

It's only called the "analytic/continental" divide because analytic philosophers got to name it. If continental philosophers got to name it, it would be called the "continental/fucking nerd shit" divide.

Or, as I call it, "general description intellectual contraption" shit.

American Capitalists have constructed the largest, most expensive, most sophisticated propaganda network in world history. They own TV networks, newspapers, movie studios, and advertisers.
The results are astounding. Most Americans hate socialism without even knowing what it is.


They hate nihilism too. And know even less about that.

...a wealthy Cuban in Florida who is still mad Castro took their Grandfather's plantation away and taught the servants how to read: "socialism, it is bad."

I'm thinking "close enough" myself.

what if our laws weren't based on how nine unelected ivy league elitists interpreted a document written by people long dead, but was instead, and here's the clever bit – based on the will of the people.

Excluding the particularly ignorant masses of course.

The phrase "unskilled labor" is used to distract you from the fact that the work they are doing is necessary for society to function. Just because some necessary jobs require less training time than others doesn't mean those people deserve to live in poverty.

That will never catch on.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:45 pm

Antonin Artaud

I prefer the people who eat off the bare earth the delirium from which they were born.


Not sure, but I think I do too.

It is not opium which makes me work but its absence, and in order for me to feel its absence it must from time to time be present.

Of course for you it might be something else.

If I commit suicide, it will not be to destroy myself but to put myself back together again.

He wondered how that works.

It is not a certain conformity of manners that the painting of Van Gogh attacks, but rather the conformity of institutions themselves. And even external nature, with her climates, her tides, and her equinoctial storms, cannot, after Van Gogh's stay upon earth, maintain the same gravitation.

No way I'd go that far.

There is nothing like an insane asylum for gently incubating death.

And we're in a kind of insane asylum here, aren't we?

Written poetry is worth reading once, and then should be destroyed. Let the dead poets make way for others.

Mine were all destroyed. Though not just by me.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:25 pm

Helen Mirren

You can't control how other people see you or think of you. But you have to be comfortable with that.


That depends far more on their capacity to do you harm.

Humor in a relationship is so important. Many women will say that. Some say, 'If they can make you laugh, it's the sexiest thing on earth.

True, but for some of us it always comes down instead to this: can they make you think?

It was not my destiny, I kept thinking it would be, waiting for it to happen, but it never did, and I didn't care what people thought ... It was only boring old men who would ask me. And whenever they went, 'What? No children? Well, you'd better get on with it, old girl,' I'd say 'No! Fuck off!'

Let's keep "destiny" out of it, okay? You know, if we can.

I think every woman in our culture is a feminist. They may refuse to articulate it, but if you were to take any woman back 40 years and say, 'Is this a world you want to live in?' They would say, 'No.'

That's bullshit, right Kids?

I learned quite early on in life that we are all two people. And one of those people none of us will ever know.

Spooky, sure, but no less true.

You could build three hospitals with the cost of one film and I take that very seriously.

What the hell does that mean? For example, for all practical purposes.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:55 pm

Doth

Be the reason why the lights flicker when you enter a room.


And what reason might that be?

I exist & that is something I'm going to have to deal with the rest of my life.

This may actually be true.

I am fully prepared to die trying to pet a wolf.

On the other hand, what then is the wolf fully prepared to do?

Whenever I’m feeling stressed I like to take a deep breath & think about every mistake I have ever made.

Oddly enough, that's never worked for me.

Use the extra hour of darkness tonight. I won't tell you how. Trust yourself.

Nope, I squandered it again myself.

What you do tonight is between you and fucking satan.

Or fucking somebody.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:59 pm

Juliette Lewis

Like everybody I have many different sides.


In other words, she's not a Kid.

Music is kind of my everything.

Not to worry, that's perfectly normal.

My focus, my life, my world is now. You just can't plan the future.

Well, not counting all the times you actually have to.

All that schooling never prepares you for the reality of life.

Like it's supposed to.

Being beautiful can be a curse, especially if you want to be an artist and create.

Let's ask phoneutria.

I kind of imagine myself at eighty, a cat lady.

Better that than the bag lady.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:03 pm

Claude Chabrol

Stupidity is infinitely more fascinating that intelligence. Intelligence has its limits while stupidity has none.


Of course he's only paraphrasing me.
Right, Kids?


I am a Communist, certainly, but that doesn't mean I have to make films about the wheat harvest.

On the contrary, I think it does.
Right, Pedro?


A woman confronting men is a proper subject, it is inexhaustible.

Well, men are insufferable.

To observe a profoundly stupid individual can be very enriching, and that's why we should never feel contempt for them.

Not counting all of the exceptions here though.

I remember an article, I can't recall who by, it was after the fall of the Berlin Wall, which said that now the Wall was down, there could be no more class war. Only someone with money could ever say such a thing.

Not that the wall should be rebuilt of course.

I wanted to make a film about stupid people that was very vulgar and deeply stupid. From that moment on I can hardly be reproached for making a film that is about stupid people.

Or: I wanted to submit a post about stupid people that was very vulgar and deeply stupid. From that moment on I can hardly be reproached for submitting a post that is about stupid people.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:30 pm

God

I know Jesus said love your enemies, but Jesus said a lot of crazy shit.


What's that say about God then?

I'm very curious to find out if I exist.

Though not as curious as we are.

Honestly, the observable universe is the worst part.

I knew it!

Marriage can only be between a man or a woman and a woman or a man.

You know, on this planet.

The Christian right hates Halloween.
Not because it's pagan, but because it involves handing out free food.


Unless of course they're dentists.

Fact: You're the most lying, cringing, groveling, hypocritical, cowardly, empty bag of platitudinous shit in the Senate.
Not even...well, it is pretty close, actually.


Pick one: Marco or Mitch.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:44 pm

Robert Bresson

Hide the ideas, but so that people find them. The most important will be the most hidden.


Nope, I'm for thumping you with them myself.

When you do not know what you are doing and what you are doing is the best - that is inspiration.

He tried to recall that ever happening to him.

Prefer what intuition whispers in your ear to what you have done and redone ten times in your head.

You know, if that ever actually happens.

Empty the pond to get the fish.

Next up: the ocean.

Bring together things that have as yet never been brought together and did not seem predisposed to be so.

Yes, I agree: dasein and conflicting goods.

Ideally, nothing should be shown, but that’s impossible.

For example, being a film director.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:59 pm

Dennis Hopper

It takes more than going down to the video store and renting "Easy Rider" to be a rebel.


But don't let that stop you.

Just because it happened to you, doesn't mean it's interesting.

Maybe, but it should be.

People keep asking me, 'What evil lurks in you to play such bad characters?' There is no evil in me, I just wear tight underwear.

Let's just agree that this is true.

I've been sober now for 18 years. With all the drugs, psychedelics and narcotics I did, I was [really] an alcoholic. Honestly, I only used to do cocaine so I could sober up and drink more. My last five years of drinking was a nightmare. I was drinking a half-gallon of rum with a fifth of rum on the side, in case I ran out, 28 beers a day, and three grams of cocaine just to keep me moving around. And I thought I was doing fine because I wasn't crawling around drunk on the floor.

Sure, it might be true.

Art is a bad word in Hollywood. You use art too many times and they show you the elevator and then your name is taken off the parking lot.

Try the word money.

There are moments that I`ve had some real brilliance, you know. But I think they are moments. And sometimes, in a career, moments are enough.

You know, like us here.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:48 pm

God

I can forgive people for being stupid.
I can’t forgive them for wanting to be stupid.


Let alone over and over and over and over and over again.

The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward apocalypse.

Okay, but the Apocalypse?

If Trump wins, the world ends.
If Biden wins, the world ends more gradually.


If you know what He means. And I certainly do.

Things may look bad on one level but man, you should see how bad they look on all the others.

And He would know how bad they are.

What a bunch of fuck-ups you are.

So, I guess He shouldn't have created us then.

"Scientology" is a combination of "scient-," meaning "science," and "-ology," meaning "science."
And it just gets stupider from there.


Cue Katie Holmes: "I'm free of an abusive cult, based on money and power that worships a fictional deity and safely back with the Catholic Church." :lol:
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:06 am

William Butler Yeats

The innocent and the beautiful have no enemy but time.


In other words, like all the rest of us.

The worst thing about some men is that when they are not drunk they are sober.

And not just my father, he thought.

The visible world is no longer a reality and the unseen world no longer a dream.

Cue the very, very big and the very, very small.

We taste and feel and see the truth. We do not reason ourselves into it.

Actually, sometimes we do.

It is one of the great troubles of life that we cannot have any unmixed emotions. There is always something in our enemy that we like, and something in our sweetheart that we dislike.

Tell that to, oh, I don't know, the objectivists?

As I thought of these things, I drew aside the curtains and looked out into the darkness, and it seemed to my troubled fancy that all those little points of light filling the sky were the furnaces of innumerable divine alchemists, who labour continually, turning lead into gold, weariness into ecstasy, bodies into souls, the darkness into God; and at their perfect labour my mortality grew heavy, and I cried out, as so many dreamers and men of letters in our age have cried, for the birth of that elaborate spiritual beauty which could alone uplift souls weighted with so many dreams.

Of course we know they're just stars.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:56 pm

James Randi

The market for nonsense is infinite.


Or close to it.

New Age? It's just the old age stuck in a microwave oven for fifteen seconds.

Not to be cofused with New Wave, of course.

Uri Geller may have psychic powers by means of which he can bend spoons; if so, he appears to be doing it the hard way.

Yuk, yuk?

One thing that has made a big comeback just recently is this business of speaking with the dead. To my innocent mind, 'dead' implies incapable of communicating.

And he stopped a couple of weeks ago. Well, to the best of my knowledge.

No evidence against a firmly-held belief, no matter how good or abundant it may be, will sway the true believer.

Wow, what if that's actually true?!

I am in a very peculiar business: I travel all over the world telling people what they should already know.

Wait, that's what I'm doing here.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:32 pm

tiny nietzsche

keep your reality to yourself


He's talking about me, isn't he?

I ate the candy. if you show up in a costume, maybe we can talk about kierkegaard

Or Covid.

I'm out of my own league

So imagine then what that makes you.

it's not even yesterday yet

At least around here.

I'm giving my liver a pep talk

In other words, to no avail.

you can't haunt the ocean, just the beach

To the best of his knowledge I suspect.
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Postby iambiguous » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:59 pm

Edward O. Wilson

People are prone to ethnocentrism. It is an uncomfortable fact that even when given a guilt-free choice, individuals prefer the company of others of the same race, nation, clan, and religion.


Genes, right Satyr?

We are a biological species arising from Earth’s biosphere as one adapted species among many; and however splendid our languages and cultures, however rich and subtle our minds, however vast our creative powers, the mental process is the product of a brain shaped by the hammer of natural selection upon the anvil of nature.

It's all genes, right Satyr?

I believe that the ten billion people expected to be present at the end of the century will enjoy a far better quality of life if we conserve half of the planet for nature than if we consume nature entirely.

My guess: we might not be arund to find out.

To express this increasingly complex subject as succinctly as possible, the ancestors of our species developed the brain power to connect with other minds and to conceive unlimited time, distance, and potential outcomes. This infinite reach of imagination, put quite simply, is what made us great.

Now all we need is a context.

Someone has defined insanity as an inability to choose among false alternatives. In dreams we are insane. We wander across our limitless dreamscapes as madmen.

We?
If you know what I mean.


The learning of complex information and its storage in memory are deliberate, painstaking processes, but the loss of information seems to take place with no trouble at all.

Let's explain that.
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Postby iambiguous » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:40 pm

Jean Cocteau

The speed of a runaway horse counts for nothing.


After all, who can make money on that?

I have a piece of great and sad news to tell you: I am dead.

And now there's almost no dobt about it.

Mystery has its own mysteries, and there are gods above gods. We have ours, they have theirs. That is what's known as infinity.

Clearly a poet.

Anything of any importance cannot help but be unrecognizable, since it bears no resemblance to anything already known.

One more thing we're not supposed to know the meaning of.

Appreciation of art is a moral erection, otherwise mere dilettantism.

One more thing that some insist they do know the meaning of.

There is always a period when a man with a beard shaves it off. This period does not last. He returns headlong to his beard.

Nothing is more true than this he insisted.
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Postby iambiguous » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:51 pm

V.E. Schwab

There were a hundred shades between a truth and lie, and she knew them all.


Come on, tell me we don't need a context here.

You don't understand, gasped Eli. No one understands.
When no one understands, that's usually a good sign that you're wrong.


Yeah, I know what you're thinking: "Nobody understands dasein, iambiguous".

Books, she has found, are a way to live a thousand lives--or to find strength in a very long one.

Can this be topped?

After all, if you run far enough, no one can catch you.

How far was that for you?

Death comes for us all, said Holland evenly. I would simply have mine mean something.

Yeah, I once duped myself into believing this myself.

How many men would she have to turn to dust before one took her seriously?

Really, imagine having the power to turn the fucking idiots here to dust!
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Postby iambiguous » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:21 pm

tiny nietzsche

the enemy of my enemy is a dick. they can both fuck off


That's the spirit!

donner party autocorrected to "dinner party"

And not without reason.

a group of black t-shirts is called a nihilist

My collection is. Though, being color blind, a few, it turned out, are navy blue.

there are a lot of different ways of doing things, many of them incorrect

If only from the cradle to the grave.

final arguments.
biden: there is unrest in the forest, there is trouble with the trees
trump: ha ha ha ha stayin' alive stayin' alive


Rush, it turns out. Though Biden's no Ayn Rand.

the world is a gulag

Tell that to these guys: https://youtu.be/ptIcert_Ra8
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Postby iambiguous » Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:33 pm

Don DeLillo

As technology advances in complexity and scope, fear becomes more primitive.


White hot noise.

I'd like to lose interest in myself.

Me? Nope, never came close. And almost certainly never will.

I've come to think of Europe as a hardcover book, America as the paperback version.

We'll still need the genre of course.

No sense of the irony of human experience, that we are the highest form of life on earth, and yet ineffably sad because we know what no other animal knows, that we must die.

On the other hand, we're also the only species that can decide to.

The true life is not reducible to words spoken or written, not by anyone, ever. The true life takes place when we're alone, thinking, feeling, lost in memory, dreamingly self-aware, the submicroscopic moments.

Written and spoken by, well, him.

The family is the cradle of the world's misinformation.

And mine may have broken a few records.
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Postby iambiguous » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:07 pm

Antonin Artaud

And if there is still one hellish, truly accursed thing in our time, it is our artistic dallying with forms, instead of being like victims burnt at the stake, signaling through the flames.


Cue my own reaction to, among other things, "serious philosophy".

The idea of a detached art, of poetry as a charm which exists only to distract our leisure, is a decadent idea and an unmistakable symptom of our power to castrate.

Cue my own reaction to, among other things, "serious philosophy".

So society has strangled in its asylums all those it wanted to get rid of or protect itself from, because they refused to become its accomplices in certain great nastinesses.

Though, sure, come on, some really are fucking madmen.

Enough, I shall be understood in ten years by people who will be doing what you do today. Then my geysers will be known, my ice floes will be seen, the secret of adulterating my poisons will have been learned, the games of my soul will be revealed.

Though I suspect that's still a matter of opinion.

Poetry is a dissociating and anarchic force which through analogy, associations and imagery, thrives on the destruction of known relationships.

And now it hardly ever even rhymes.

A tainted society has invented psychiatry to defend itself against the investigations of certain superior intellects whose faculties of divination would be troublesome.

Clearly maybe.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:38 am

so sad today

should i masturbate then nap or nap then masturbate: a memoir


Either way, I'll support her.

it's my meaningless bullshit and i'll obsess about it if i want to

Like anyone's stopping her. As far as I know.

everybody wants you to be as boring as they are

Only here it's more in the way of stupidity.

i never know what i’m feeling because i don’t want to

And you sure as shit don't, right?

symptoms might include hating everything

Okay, but at least it's over the counter.

i'm aware of what i'm doing but not enough to stop

And guess what that is.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:03 pm

Susan Sarandon

I look forward to being older, when what you look like becomes less and less an issue and what you are is the point.


What are the odds she actually believes this?

If you're upset with how you look at 25, life's going to be tough.

Let's run this by, well, you know.

Never root for a team whose uniforms have elastic stretch waistbands.

You tell me.

When I tell people I'm a comedian they say, 'Oh, are you funny?' I say, 'No, it's not that kind of comedy.'

You tell me.

I believe in using words, not fists.

Not counting me though, right? You know, here. If fists were an actual option. :wink:

At the end of your life, you are going to want to know that you made some kind of difference.

I suspect that works both ways.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:12 am

Philosophy Tweets

“He who despises himself esteems himself as a self-despiser.” Friedrich Nietzsche


This too being "human all too human".

“A wise man apportions his beliefs to the evidence.” David Hume

Next up: a dumb Kid.

“Another problem with people who fail to examine themselves is that they often prove all too easily influenced.” Martha C. Nussbaum

Fucking Trumpworld!! You know, among others.

"Everyone is the other and no one is himself." Martin Heidegger

Sounds like something he'd say.

"A person is neither a thing nor a process but an opening through which the Absolute can manifest." Martin Heidegger

This sounds like something he'd actually believe.

“The great person is ahead of their time, the smart make something out of it, and the blockhead, sets themselves against it.” Jean Baudrillard

Of course there's a liberal and a conservative version of this.
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:53 pm

Juliette Lewis

I think I can be beautiful with all the little stuff done, and I can be ugly. A lot of attractive actresses can't be ugly.


On the other hand, who gets to decide it?

I knew I could live no other way, that the one thing I wanted was to act and do it well.

Surely the best of all possible worlds. And nothing at all like mine.

Fame can be just so annoying because people are so critical of you. You can't just say "hi". You say hi and people whisper "Man, did you see the way she said Hi. What an attitude."

But you'll risk that, right?

I never think I have success even when I have it, for better or for worse.

You know, like some of us here.

All the musicians that I know want to act.

In reality of course it's the other way around.

Because I'm not perfect looking, I get to play better roles.

Now that I think about it...
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Re: a thread for mundane ironists

Postby iambiguous » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:05 pm

Philosophy Tweets

“One gets more and more humble the longer one lives, and in the shadow of death many things look different.” August Strindberg


Yes, but in a No God world in particular.

“Life is not so idiotically mathematical that only the big eat the small; it is just as common for a bee to kill a lion or at least to drive it mad.” August Strindberg

Yeah, maybe, but, comes on, who is kidding who?

“There is no such thing as freedom of choice unless there is freedom to refuse.” David Hume

Uh, oh, Mr. Objectivist.

“To a philosopher and historian the madness and imbecile wickedness of mankind ought to appear ordinary events.” David Hume

Imagine then his reaction to Trump!!

"The description is not the described." Jiddu Krishnamurti

What, words are not worlds?!!

"There are no dangerous thoughts; thinking it-self is dangerous." Hannah Arendt

It's just that some thinking [like mine] is particularly dangerous. If I do say so myself.
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