Sex

This is the place to shave off that long white beard and stop being philosophical; a forum for members to just talk like normal human beings.

Sex

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:11 pm

Is this the fitting place? Fuck. Sex is interesting. I like it in many forms. People probably know this. I think it is the subject behind most subjects, basically behind all subjects except philosophy-proper, and Im the only one doing that. So for all you, sex is the only real subject. That is meant as a joke, but only because people won't take it seriously, not because it isn't true.

Of course this is all exaggerated. For many people, sex is not at all the center of the world. Not at all. Love, care, these things are. But Im talking about the world of great changes, dynamisms, the element that fuels the progress of nature. The reason why Jeff Bezos is so rich and such an asshole and wants to fly rockets. The reason for many rockets and micro aggressions.

To not be able to have proper sex can have several reasons, most of them painful to speak about, so I won't do that. That's annoying. Psychoanalysis is really annoying in that sense too. You can't really speak it unless you have no morals or scruples at all, or no people who care about what you think. Anyway, people know all these reasons all too well so it's not useful to talk about them anyway.

Anyway I just wanted to make a thread that's not necessarily beating around the bush. I don't like the fact that I've not been philosophically understood and yet of course it only heightens my pride. I need to blow off some pride, very often in fact, lower myself to not constantly feel like a God. You know how distressing it can be to be a god? Well, just look at how angry gods tend to get.

What is interestring, is gods of sex, goddesses of sex. Aphrodite is "interesting".
What a cowardly thing to say to a woman, let alone to the goddess of sex. Interesting.
It is true that such women can be drawn to "interesting" men.
The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must.
- Thucydides
Image
The Wheel - The Tree
User avatar
Fixed Cross
Doric Usurper
 
Posts: 11997
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am
Location: Lightning

Postby perpetualburn » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:30 pm

The highest spiritual experiences (which are sensual in nature) are somehow aphrodisiacs. In other words, the highest spiritual experiences have a way of propelling one back into a world of earthly sexual desires (it's as if your libido is renewed and sex once again becomes something innocent). It's an endless repeating cycle. Life's way of regenerating interest in "base" sexual desire (so life can go on through "crude" reproduction) through higher spiritual experiences. Lust itself need not be seedy (although in many cases it is)... In desiring "to be" (to live again) with one's god (which is the source of life) one should ache with a virtuous lust (i.e. a lust which elevates... a lust which does not extinguish itself in animalistic sex and fluids but rekindles the internal flame of the one lusting after he has reached re-union with his beloved). I use the word "lust" because even in virtuous lusting the object of the lusting is still a beautiful body (perhaps a body that has never been seen before).... the ends are what are different...the movement is upwards...which ironically leads one back down... and so on and so forth

Now if your highest spiritual experience did not renew your interest in sex... how high was it really?
As a pillar of rising smoke did my angel condescend and appear, standing without reserve on the exhausted banks of infinite sorrow.

"There, where the state CEASETH—pray look thither, my brethren! Do ye not see it, the rainbow and the bridges of the Superman?" -N

http://knowthyself.forumotion.net/f6-agora
perpetualburn
 
Posts: 343
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:57 am

Re: Sex

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:29 pm

Who needs spiritual experiences to have their interest in sex renewed?

It is true that the libido is the essential engine for spirituality/occultism. But spirituality for sex? Isn't sex a permanent obsession of all men?

Or most?

Its true of course that spiritual experiences can alter, or refine, specify ones sexual tastes. If thats your point, its an important one.
The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must.
- Thucydides
Image
The Wheel - The Tree
User avatar
Fixed Cross
Doric Usurper
 
Posts: 11997
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am
Location: Lightning

Re: Sex

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:51 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Who needs spiritual experiences to have their interest in sex renewed?

It is true that the libido is the essential engine for spirituality/occultism. But spirituality for sex? Isn't sex a permanent obsession of all men?

Or most?

Its true of course that spiritual experiences can alter, or refine, specify ones sexual tastes. If thats your point, its an important one.


Once you want to stop severely hurting the feelings of others. You give up sex completely.

Everything that people think can only be done with sex and sex alone, can be done better with pure spirit.

One of the three structural problems of existence is:

The pleasurable exclusive access problem.

This is defined (amongst many things) by sex and marriage.

That’s how you know you’ve met a psychopath...

They know it’s true, but they don’t care.

Once you figure out that you live forever, you care infinitely.

It’s ignorance that causes sex.
The purpose of life is to give everyone individually what they always want at the expense of no being - forever.

The biggest problem of life is the, “hey, I don’t want this to be happening” problem for everyone.

Welcome to thinking.
Ecmandu
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 16011
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:22 am
Location: Duh. Existence. I'm sure that'd be wrong on SAT's!

Re: Sex

Postby iambiguous » Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:49 pm

Nope, nothing really creepy so far.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

"Sure, it works in practice, but does it work in theory?"

Danny Embling: "People wonder how Hitler managed to get so many followers...it's never surprised me."
User avatar
iambiguous
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 46421
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:03 pm
Location: hanging out with godot

Re: Sex

Postby perpetualburn » Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:52 am

Fixed Cross wrote:Who needs spiritual experiences to have their interest in sex renewed?

It is true that the libido is the essential engine for spirituality/occultism. But spirituality for sex? Isn't sex a permanent obsession of all men?

Or most?

Its true of course that spiritual experiences can alter, or refine, specify ones sexual tastes. If thats your point, its an important one.


Well, if you're too focused on sex (and just sex) you can quickly become disillusioned with sex (or turned off by the idea of it) even if you still feel the same instinctual urge in your body (that doesn't go away). My main point, however, is that the sensual is superior to the sexual but in such a way they sort of feed each other. Superior in feeling.
As a pillar of rising smoke did my angel condescend and appear, standing without reserve on the exhausted banks of infinite sorrow.

"There, where the state CEASETH—pray look thither, my brethren! Do ye not see it, the rainbow and the bridges of the Superman?" -N

http://knowthyself.forumotion.net/f6-agora
perpetualburn
 
Posts: 343
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:57 am

Re: Sex

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:10 pm

perpetualburn wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Who needs spiritual experiences to have their interest in sex renewed?

It is true that the libido is the essential engine for spirituality/occultism. But spirituality for sex? Isn't sex a permanent obsession of all men?

Or most?

Its true of course that spiritual experiences can alter, or refine, specify ones sexual tastes. If thats your point, its an important one.


Well, if you're too focused on sex (and just sex) you can quickly become disillusioned with sex (or turned off by the idea of it) even if you still feel the same instinctual urge in your body (that doesn't go away). My main point, however, is that the sensual is superior to the sexual but in such a way they sort of feed each other. Superior in feeling.

Yes. The sexual without the sensual is disgusting.


Ecmandu - you are implicitly an antinatalist, are you not?
The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must.
- Thucydides
Image
The Wheel - The Tree
User avatar
Fixed Cross
Doric Usurper
 
Posts: 11997
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:53 am
Location: Lightning


Return to Non-Philosophical Chat



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users