Exuberant Teleportation wrote:Tantric - Breakdown (Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxRG7uoFDo4
promethean75 wrote:^ at first I was like 'okay this is gonna be more of that corny anglo-saxon metal that all the angry and misunderstood white kids listen to', but then she started growling and I was like 'holy fucking christ balls'.
What's a smart fellow like yourself doing listening to that crap, gloom?
it's hilarious, when she did the death growl over the violin riff I burst into laughter.
promethean75 wrote:for me, the idea of something like this - blending some traditonal music style into an element of metal - is usually ruined through/by the production of it... because it's always contrived and overdone in the video. i can't stand thematic videos, especially ones like that. they're standing out in a field in europe somewhere dressed like eleventh century barbarians. all that's missing are the battle axes. it's one of those corny situations where a modern band tries to be patriotic by paying creative tribute to their heritage and history, and yet off stage they'd be indistinguishable from anyone else concerning their life styles such that what they really are is actually an effacement to what they pretend to hold sacred. this is the tremendous danger involved in artistic reproduction and symbolism; the depreciation of the object of art through the artist's idiosyncracies. i just lost more respect for european culture because of that corny-ass video, gloom. thanks alot.
but yes, i understand your concern with wanting to find new forms of metal, especially today when just about every possible formula has already been tried and then reproduced into the ground. for me, the next logical step to be made is into the 'djent' genre. this is where standard styles of metal are forced to make significant compositional changes in order to remain creative. this had to be done to save metal, gloom. it is where metal meets fusion, the saving grace and energy for a style that has been dying since the 90s.
here's one that rekindled my faith in metal... one that magnus 'andy' anderson turned me on to a couple years ago. now i had already known that there were plenty of polyrhythmic mathmetal bands out there... i just hadn't been actively looking for them. once i listened to this i experienced a shortlived renaissance and began looking around again. bands like 'plini' and 'polyphia', for instance, are two that i found. but here's the one that blew me away at a time when i was fast losing hope for metal. you'll see here that there's no need to dress up like barbarians and start growling into the microphone. the music tells the story ('shut up and play your guitar' - zappa)
promethean75 wrote:it's hilarious, when she did the death growl over the violin riff I burst into laughter.
ah, but that's the thing though. you weren't supposed to laugh, and because you did, a critical disconnect happened between the artist and audience. what was intended to be taken seriously instead produced an undesired comic effect, and in that moment the artist becomes the accidental buffoon. the fine line that band walks is in trying to give depth and intensity to something that can go terribly wrong on account of the difficulty in expressing it. what is intended to deliver through force something that's incredibly serious to the artist becomes silly and obnoxious because of that difficulty. when she started growling like an idiot, an unintentional anticlimax occurred. now you're laughing while you should be psyched and preparing your horse for battle. see what i mean?
And I don't think you could lose any more respect for European culture, because you already have none, I suspect you'd prefer to snuff it out completely.
It was basically just the band wanking off, trying to show how technically proficient they were
sometimes I like more fantastic stuff.
Sometimes I like weird, psychotic even.
oh come on. europe brought the whole world out of the dark ages and was the father of every revolution conceivable; scientific, intellectual, philosophical, economic, industrial. anybody who does not recognize and appreciate this is an ass ranger.
what turns me off is the unwarranted ethnocentricity
concentrated around the outmoded and outdated sympathy for culture and nationalism that the european countries feel.
imaginary lines drawn in the dirt are steadily disappearing and one day the very concept of a 'country' will be obsolete.
instead of fighting against this inevitability, those countries with any modicum of strength should be concerned with holding power over this future in the political and economic arena.
lol i had this same conversation with the pedrosaurus months ago. you guys are so desensitized by all the posturing and posing on MTV, you automatically suspect that any technically skilled musician appearing in a video HAS to be showing off.
no need to write some stupid lyrics to fill a void created by your inability to play something interesting.
there is poetry and story everywhere throughout this music, and not a single word need be said to hear it.
promethean75 wrote:sometimes I like more fantastic stuff.
Sometimes I like weird, psychotic even.
i see. okay, try this. recorded with the london symphony orchestra back when music was real. introducing.... [pause for effect].... the mahavishnu orchestra!!
note: everyone you see in that photo except mclaughlin is not playing on the apocalypse album. this one is with a whole nuther line-up.
just wait for the break at 3:01. don't frickin' stop the tape, dude.
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