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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:41 pm

Yo, Satyr!

Are we going to tangle -- here or there -- or not?

You know, if only to entertain Mr. Reasonable. Or, as he is known in your neck of the woods, Shit Smears. 8)
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:46 pm

lorikeet is in the house!
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby promethean75 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:18 pm

Omg this is so exciting
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:10 pm

Lol
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:59 pm

Nope, he's gone: Bing [Bot], derleydoo, Google [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], WendyDarling

Of course, no one is more bitterly disappointed than I am.

Well, maybe Shit Smears. 8)
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:36 pm

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:38 pm

iambiguous wrote:Yo, Satyr!

Are we going to tangle -- here or there -- or not?

You know, if only to entertain Mr. Reasonable. Or, as he is known in your neck of the woods, Shit Smears. 8)


i cant believe that after all these years he still thinks about me. its good to know that i left a big impression on him.
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:43 pm

imabig if you think that im interesting you should probably get out more
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:46 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:imabig if you think that im interesting you should probably get out more


That isn't my point of, course. My point is the extent to which you think of yourself as the man every woman wants and the man every other man wants to be: "Look at me! Envy me! Don't you wish you could be me?!"

Only, given my own fractured and fragmented self here, that in and of itself can only be a hopelessly subjective reaction of mine rooted existentially in dasein.

On the other hand, that's the reason I created this thread. To explore human identity in regard to value judgments as more or less within the reach of philosophy itself.

And, I suspect, that would never be of interest to those who come here mostly to "yak, yak, yak".

Again, over at KT, Satyr's own clique/claque would be all about exploring human identity and value judgments philosophically. No social media chit-chat there. But you would have to be "one of us" there to be allowed to discuss it in the agora.

Only now, even in the POLITEIA [where I believe the dungeon once existed] I'm greeted with this:

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:50 pm

The latest from the Desperate Degenerate thread:

satyr wrote: It must be the confusion Nietzsche produced in men-children with his transvaluation of values, but degenerates of all stripes are obsessed with the cocnept...in a post-Abrahamic god era.
I mean that's what we call nihilism.

Words have lost their meaning leaving men-children in a confused state of existential limbo, some declaring themselves god creator of values - and others unable to make sense of what "values" mean or how to determine them.
When the meaning of words comes from text, then when the text is debunked or contradicted then there's no way to establish what words mean or what their original utility was, before the people of the book, by the book, for the book, "revolutionized law" with Mosaic tablet found in the desert.


satyr wrote: BLAH BLAH BLAH


ON STEROIDS!!!

Seriously, this latest post from him has surely got to be one of the most obtuse, densely packed intellectual contraptions ever posted on a philosophy board.

And that's saying a lot!!!

On the other hand, there might be members here who still defend what I construe to be pedantic drivel of this sort.

So, you tell me how it is applicable to your own life when confronting moral and and political values from others at odds with your own. Explain how it all "creates a noetic triangle, with the subject at the first angle, the peak of the triangles, no mat[t]er how you rotate it." And how, "[t]his noetic triangulation is how values are evaluated."

As opposed to, say, value ontology or RM/AO? 8)
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Sculptor » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:51 pm

iambiguous wrote:The latest from the Desperate Degenerate thread:

satyr wrote: It must be the confusion Nietzsche produced in men-children with his transvaluation of values, but degenerates of all stripes are obsessed with the cocnept...in a post-Abrahamic god era.
I mean that's what we call nihilism.

Words have lost their meaning leaving men-children in a confused state of existential limbo, some declaring themselves god creator of values - and others unable to make sense of what "values" mean or how to determine them.
When the meaning of words comes from text, then when the text is debunked or contradicted then there's no way to establish what words mean or what their original utility was, before the people of the book, by the book, for the book, "revolutionized law" with Mosaic tablet found in the desert.


satyr wrote: BLAH BLAH BLAH


ON STEROIDS!!!

Seriously, this latest post from him has surely got to be one of the most obtuse, densely packed intellectual contraptions ever posted on a philosophy board.

And that's saying a lot!!!

On the other hand, there might be members here who still defend what I construe to be pedantic drivel of this sort.

So, you tell me how it is applicable to your own life when confronting moral and and political values from others at odds with your own. Explain how it all "creates a noetic triangle, with the subject at the first angle, the peak of the triangles, no mat[t]er how you rotate it." And how, "[t]his noetic triangulation is how values are evaluated."

As opposed to, say, value ontology or RM/AO? 8)


And how do you feel about killing people trying to defend their country against a foreign invader?

Have you ever been back?

And do you accept that the US lost that war?
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:02 am

Sculptor wrote:
iambiguous wrote:The latest from the Desperate Degenerate thread:

satyr wrote: It must be the confusion Nietzsche produced in men-children with his transvaluation of values, but degenerates of all stripes are obsessed with the cocnept...in a post-Abrahamic god era.
I mean that's what we call nihilism.

Words have lost their meaning leaving men-children in a confused state of existential limbo, some declaring themselves god creator of values - and others unable to make sense of what "values" mean or how to determine them.
When the meaning of words comes from text, then when the text is debunked or contradicted then there's no way to establish what words mean or what their original utility was, before the people of the book, by the book, for the book, "revolutionized law" with Mosaic tablet found in the desert.


satyr wrote: BLAH BLAH BLAH


ON STEROIDS!!!

Seriously, this latest post from him has surely got to be one of the most obtuse, densely packed intellectual contraptions ever posted on a philosophy board.

And that's saying a lot!!!

On the other hand, there might be members here who still defend what I construe to be pedantic drivel of this sort.

So, you tell me how it is applicable to your own life when confronting moral and and political values from others at odds with your own. Explain how it all "creates a noetic triangle, with the subject at the first angle, the peak of the triangles, no mat[t]er how you rotate it." And how, "[t]his noetic triangulation is how values are evaluated."

As opposed to, say, value ontology or RM/AO? 8)


And how do you feel about killing people trying to defend their country against a foreign invader?

Have you ever been back?

And do you accept that the US lost that war?


Like I said: He's cracking up before us!!!



URGENT!!!

Any lawyers in the house?

Can I be held criminally liable if I do finally drive him over the edge? Should I just assume a "condition" and put him on ignore like ecmandu? 8)
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:14 am

bro are you ok this is not normal behavior
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:06 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:bro are you ok this is not normal behavior


Here of course he is doing his damnedest to turn this into just another one of his yak yak yak attacks.

One line at a time as it were.

On the other hand, this is the sandbox. Philosophy for kids as it were. 8)
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:54 pm

Satyr wrote:If anyone is interested in witnessing how a desperate degenerate, committed to Marxism, understands language, then read Kropotkin's latest contributions on the ILP cesspool.
"1+1=2" is "meaningless"...maybe capitalistic power imposing upon the proletariats innocence.
This imbecile does not understand what language is....nor why it evolved and what is its utility.


That's not the point though.

The point is this:

1] would Satyr be willing to allow K to discuss and debate him in the agora? And, if so, how long would K be given to accept that only Satyr can ever be correct about Marxism before he comes to KT and encounters this:

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2] would Satyr be willing to come here and debate and discuss Marxism with K? And, if so, how long, when he and others refused to toe his TOE, would it take before he became the bombastic Beast in huff and puff mode
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:26 pm

iambiguous wrote:
Satyr wrote:If anyone is interested in witnessing how a desperate degenerate, committed to Marxism, understands language, then read Kropotkin's latest contributions on the ILP cesspool.
"1+1=2" is "meaningless"...maybe capitalistic power imposing upon the proletariats innocence.
This imbecile does not understand what language is....nor why it evolved and what is its utility.


That's not the point though.

The point is this:

1] would Satyr be willing to allow K to discuss and debate him in the agora? And, if so, how long would K be given to accept that only Satyr can ever be correct about Marxism before he comes to KT and encounters this:

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2] would Satyr be willing to come here and debate and discuss Marxism with K? And, if so, how long, when he and others refused to toe his TOE, would it take before he became the bombastic Beast in huff and puff mode

The real question is “how long” before Biggie drives all ILPers over to KT where they can escape him?
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:20 am

iambiguous wrote:
Satyr wrote:If anyone is interested in witnessing how a desperate degenerate, committed to Marxism, understands language, then read Kropotkin's latest contributions on the ILP cesspool.
"1+1=2" is "meaningless"...maybe capitalistic power imposing upon the proletariats innocence.
This imbecile does not understand what language is....nor why it evolved and what is its utility.


That's not the point though.

The point is this:

1] would Satyr be willing to allow K to discuss and debate him in the agora? And, if so, how long would K be given to accept that only Satyr can ever be correct about Marxism before he comes to KT and encounters this:

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2] would Satyr be willing to come here and debate and discuss Marxism with K? And, if so, how long, when he and others refused to toe his TOE, would it take before he became the bombastic Beast in huff and puff mode


WendyDarling wrote:The real question is “how long” before Biggie drives all ILPers over to KT where they can escape him?


This is typical of her. She pops into threads I create in order to make personal attacks. Absolutely no substance to the post at all. In no way does she even attempt to address the point I make.


Another example from above:

WendyDarling wrote:The KT dungeon has been re-established?


Yes, it's still there. Just in a more covert fashion.

After all, to the best of my knowledge, I am still a member of the KT community. If you click on "users" there I am.

And if I go to the bottom of the page in the agora I get this:

Users browsing this forum: camus666

And yet also at the bottom of the page I get this:

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So, I'm no longer in the dungeon, but I am not permitted to challenge Satyr when he hurls accusations, ad homs and personal attacks against me. Seems rather chickenshit to me.

Whereas here, over and again, I offer you the opportunity to defend your own accusations against me. And not in the Rant forum either. But you refuse to go there.


She simply ignores the point I make because she has no argument to make in which to defend herself.

She is clearly far, far, far more at home on the yak yak yak threads. But she refuses to learn that lesson. Meaning, I suspect, that she is incapable of learning it. At least with those like obsrvr524 there is actual content in the posts.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Aventador » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:52 am

iambiguous wrote:pops into threads I create in order to make personal attacks


Personal attacks?

No way iambiguous.

Tell us more.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Aventador » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:53 am

iambiguous wrote:She simply ignores the point I make because she has no argument to make in which to defend herself.


I cannot believe anybody would do this.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Aventador » Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:54 am

This sounds serious.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby iambiguous » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:16 am

Curly-Joe wrote:
iambiguous wrote:pops into threads I create in order to make personal attacks


Personal attacks?

No way iambiguous.

Tell us more.


Note to others:

Just out of curiosity, how pathetic would your life have to be to bring you to this? You come into a philosophy forum on a Saturday night. And, on the philosophy board, you allow yourself to be reduced down to posting this sort inane gibberish every couple of minutes.

Come on, there have got to be trillions and trillions of things more...challenging?

Or does he actually believe that he is being clever here? :lol:

Me? Well, when you're waiting for godot -- even on a Saturday night -- nature cuts you some slack.

But what if determinism is not the explanation? What if of his own free will he does this...on purpose?!

My take on it:

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Aventador » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:28 am

I'm just shocked at this problem you're raising, iambiguous. It sounds like we should do something about it.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Aventador » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:31 am

Don't get angry now. I'm on your side.
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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby WendyDarling » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:23 am

Aventador wrote:
iambiguous wrote:pops into threads I create in order to make personal attacks


Personal attacks?

No way iambiguous.

Tell us more.

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Re: Desperate Degenerate Support Group

Postby Aventador » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:13 am

And if I had a Dasha for every time I said something crazy smart,

I'd probably be broke as fuck, women are the worst.
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