Pray Together

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Wed May 17, 2023 6:44 pm

This appears sensible, but again as with most things connected to neuro science and the philosophy of the mind,is the premordial Lu unisexed creature, unknowingly follows the map of reemergence, unwittingly choosing sides, between three variable determinants, to whom it reappears in digital resemblance, as divided and separable.

The three determinants are natural selection (physical and cognitive, creationist as never ending procedurulously as if from dust, causing the third determinant by the final sub process that is of artificial and natural neural development. Where the hyper real is an after fact assumption based on a hoped for algorhym
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Lorikeet » Wed May 17, 2023 7:54 pm

When the mind is released from the demands of the real it constructs its own reality.....and this alternate reality cannot replace that which it is a part of and it emerges from.

It enters into an unstated agreement with those it shares this alternate reality...a collective project.
One will support another to absorb the negative consequences of this detachment.
An effective way to deal with the consequences of immersing oneself in a fantasy....

But...this collectivization can only absorb so much.....and then it begins to crack.
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his gods

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Wed May 17, 2023 8:29 pm

Again truthfully right. But again with the except when the conception is of immaculate origin, then it becomes a cross to wear, barring none from from opining alternatives.
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Lorikeet » Wed May 17, 2023 8:37 pm

Miscegenation is human husbandry.
Cultivating the ideal domesticated manimal.

The price is?
Reduced IQ, lower competitiveness, an inability to maintain complex societies....an implosion....like what is occurring the the US.

A Brazilization....Americanization... mind/body uniformity, towards the lowest-common-denominator.
A lowering to a median.
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his gods

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Wed May 17, 2023 8:47 pm

Or, a co- median.

But we already got joker, stand up please
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Lorikeet » Wed May 17, 2023 8:51 pm

Life is a comedy or a tragedy.
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his gods

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Wed May 17, 2023 10:28 pm

Or a tragicomedy or a comictragedy



…put differently a commytragedy or a tragicomedy , need not spell that out
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu May 18, 2023 2:51 am

y’gotta laugh. over.

“… ‘Child, to say the very thing you really mean, the whole of it, nothing more or less or other than what you really mean; that’s the whole art and joy of words.’ A glib saying. When the time comes to you at which you will be forced at last to order the speech which has laying at the center of your soul for years, which you have, all that time, idiot like, been saying over and over, you will not talk about joy of words.… There was given to me a certainty that this, at last, was my real voice. … How can they meet us face-to-face till we have faces?

- C.S. Lewis

“It is when I turn to Christ, when I give myself up to his personality, that I first begin to have a real personality of my own. At the beginning I said there were personalities in God. I will go further now. There are no real personalities anywhere else. Until you have given up yourself to him you will not have a real self. Sameness is to be found most among the most ‘natural’ men, not among those who surrender to Christ. How monotonously alike all the great tyrants and conquerors have been: how gloriously different are the saints.”

- C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

"The pain I feel now is the happiness I had before. That's the deal." - CS Lewis (A Grief Observed)

“To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything, and your heart will certainly be wrung and possibly be broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact, you must give your heart to no one, not even to an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements; lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket—safe, dark, motionless, airless—it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. The alternative to tragedy, or at least to the risk of tragedy, is damnation. The only place outside Heaven where you can be perfectly safe from all the dangers and perturbations of love is Hell.” - C.S. Lewis (The Four Loves)

“What is grief if not love persevering?”
- The Vision

"Faith... is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods." - C.S. Lewis

“There are also occasions on which a mother's love for her own children or a man's love for his own country have to be suppressed or they will lead to unfairness towards other people's children or countries. Strictly speaking, there are no such things as good and bad impulses. Think once again of a piano. It has not got two kinds of notes on it, the "right" notes and the "wrong" ones. Every single note is right at one time and wrong at another. The Moral Law is not any one instinct or any set of instincts: it is something which makes a kind of tune (the tune we call goodness or right conduct) by directing the instincts.”

- C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

“Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for those desires exists. A baby feels hunger: well, there is such a thing as food. A duckling wants to swim; well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire: well, there is such a thing as sex. If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. If none of my earthly pleasures satisfy it, that does not prove that the universe is a fraud. Probably earthly desires were never meant to satisfy it, but only to arouse it, to suggest the real thing.”

—CS Lewis, "The Weight of Glory”

“There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub and exploit - immortal horrors or everlasting splendors. This does not mean that we are to be perpetually solemn. We must play. But our merriment must be of that kind (and it is, in fact, the merriest kind) which exists between people who have, from the outset, taken each other seriously - no flippancy, no superiority, no presumption.”

C.S. Lewis, The Weight of Glory
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm

y’gotta laugh. over.

“… ‘Child, to say the very thing you really mean, the whole of it, nothing more or less or other than what you really mean; that’s the whole art and joy of words.’ A glib saying. When the time comes to you at which you will be forced at last to order the speech which has laying at the center of your soul for years, which you have, all that time, idiot like, been saying over and over, you will not talk about joy of words.… There was given to me a certainty that this, at last, was my real voice. … How can they meet us face-to-face till we have faces?”
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Thu May 18, 2023 8:04 pm

Meno_ wrote:y’gotta laugh. over.

“… ‘Child, to say the very thing you really mean, the whole of it, nothing more or less or other than what you really mean; that’s the whole art and joy of words.’ A glib saying. When the time comes to you at which you will be forced at last to order the speech which has laying at the center of your soul for years, which you have, all that time, idiot like, been saying over and over, you will not talk about joy of words.… There was given to me a certainty that this, at last, was my real voice. … How can they meet us face-to-face till we have faces?”




But if the world refuses to take measure with the transparent transcendence of. the turn to imminent decay, then how can they claim to have literacy upper most in their mind?

Even Jesus the Great magician atoned to this
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu May 18, 2023 9:39 pm

Sorry. You lost me.
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Lorikeet » Thu May 18, 2023 9:46 pm

Follow the map in your head.
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his gods

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu May 18, 2023 9:47 pm

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Fri May 19, 2023 8:19 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Sorry. You lost me.
. Or it lost you and me
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Fri May 19, 2023 8:23 pm

On second thought, imminence of decay is not lost intentionally, where time decays thought, but is a function of it’s dependence on context, so it goes to measure it’s dependence… a timeless passage toward h’s recapturing the essential essence of it’s self , in it’s self, through it’s self.
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