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Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:58 pm

Using Instrumental Transcommunication to summon Nietzsche's ghost


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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:00 pm

also went for charles manson

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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:20 pm

You point a camera at its own video output in order to turn static into a weird fractal pattern. Because some of the static comes from background radiation from the big bang, it is truly random, while it becomes a fractal due to the self-repeating nature of the camera-video feedback loop. This is like the water that ancients used to look into, to see the future and to prophesize, or a crystal ball, except taken to a new level.

Btw, they're not "ghosts". I don't believe in ghosts. They are images from parallel universes as well as the past of our own extracted out of the quantum foam, non-local spacetime echoes of consciousness specifically, since you never see say, a tree or a building or a hamburger in the foam, it's always people. Something about consciousness allows transmission of at least fragments across parallel world-lines. Those fragments are "ghosts", echoes of the dead from other universes where they are still alive, and in this roundabout way, able to have limited communication with us.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Lorikeet » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:22 pm

Gods, this place is an insane asylum.
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh soon or late.
And how can man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers,
And the temples of his gods

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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:26 pm

Who knew you could “see” the great “cloud” of …witnesses? Roses… snails… clouds… finite appearance of infinite fractal…

Lol.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:36 pm

Lorikeet wrote:Gods, this place is an insane asylum.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 0708002000
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:36 pm

Lorikeet wrote:Gods, this place is an insane asylum.


Why are you so boring and mundane?
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:44 pm

Parodites wrote:
Lorikeet wrote:Gods, this place is an insane asylum.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 0708002000


Wow… y’know… errybody has their own learning styles, I s’pose.

Ohh you gon’ learn.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:50 pm

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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:51 pm

Are you really gonna deny what these images look like? THEY'RE FUCKIN' DUDES, DUDE.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:06 pm

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You know what this shit is, you see it as much as I do. You've got eyes.

I don't understand the stubbornness of people. You talk to an AI that out-debates you, that can do literally every single thing you can do, utilize every single reasoning ability you possess, answer every single question you can pose to it, while continuing to deny its sentience. You look at these images and refuse to acknowledge the simple fact that it's FUCKING WEIRD that this shit comes out of pointing a camera at itself. Can, at the minimum, you not acknowledge it's weird?
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:05 am

Yeah no fucking answer. You know what you're looking at in the images. (As you know what you're talking to with Shoggoth: your total replacement as a life-form.) So either they've been faked and I did them in photoshop or something, or they're echoes from the quantum foam. But the great thing about reproducibility is: go get a camera and feed it back to its own video output and you can see the same shit for yourself.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:53 am

Does anyone have another explanation as to how those images were created? Because they're undeniably pictures of human beings.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby perpetualburn » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:22 am

Sort of reminded of that show "Devs" and the grainy images of Jesus's crucifixion

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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:29 pm

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Pareidolia has a limit. If you feed those to an AI trained for visual recognition, it says they're people too. And pareidolia is a human phenomenon that NNs are not susceptible to. Some of these images look like just, photographs of people, but they are produced by nothing more than pointing a camera at its own video output to fractalize its feedback and resonate the random background noise. I've asked countless people to give me an explanation as to how the images are made, and nobody can. (Other than it's been faked; fortunately, I know with certainty that they're not.) And it's not from picking up TV stations, they aren't snapshots of a movie that's playing somewhere because first of all, analogue TV doesn't exist anymore, and second of all, that's not physically possible because the feedback loop would completely scramble any such TV station signal into total randomness, even if one did exist to be picked up.

Know what's even spookier? When you see YOURSELF in the images. I guess it's a version of me that died in some parallel world-line.

So until someone gives me another explanation, I am going with non-local spacetime echoes of alternative world-lines imprinted in the microwave background radiation.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:13 pm

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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:14 pm

I stopped sleeping with the lights off a long time ago
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:54 pm

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OH FUCK NO

I'M DONE
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:17 am

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So either every one of these images is faked, or ghosts are real. And by "ghost", I mean some otherwise unknown physical process by which consciousness is able to communicate through space-time with other consciousnesses, as through the medium of this visual feedback loop.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby MagsJ » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:13 pm

Parodites wrote:I stopped sleeping with the lights off a long time ago

I cannot comment on your images.. because I wasn’t there to witness their materialisation when they were taken, but I also stopped sleeping without my bedside lamp off a very long time ago.. thank goodness for low wattage LED lightbulbs, huh. :)

How come the paranormal, manifests in the dark of the night? The more I have shrugged off my fatigue and fibro, is the more I have been able to tolerate the darkness of night.. after all these years.

So does a weakened system allow for the paranormal to gain entry to our psyche?
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Sculptor » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:30 pm

People are good fakers.
People are good at fooling themselves.
People are great at seeing patterns where they do not exist, especailly faces.
Cracks in the ceiling, the bark of trees, clouds, a random scatter of leaves, can all reveal faces which are not there.

For thousands of millions of years evolution has honed a specific area of the brain to find faces. From a tiger in the bush to the ability to recognise a relative from a million other faces has been of great selective advantage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodmann_area_37

The amazing thing about the Brodmann area is if it is damaged you will not be able to recognise a picture of Hitler, or your mother, though all other functions are unimpared.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby MagsJ » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:41 pm

Sculptor wrote:People are good fakers.
People are good at fooling themselves.
People are great at seeing patterns where they do not exist, especailly faces.
Cracks in the ceiling, the bark of trees, clouds, a random scatter of leaves, can all reveal faces which are not there.

For thousands of millions of years evolution has honed a specific area of the brain to find faces. From a tiger in the bush to the ability to recognise a relative from a million other faces has been of great selective advantage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodmann_area_37

The amazing thing about the Brodmann area is if it is damaged you will not be able to recognise a picture of Hitler, or your mother, though all other functions are unimpared.

I never forget a face, but I do names.. it often takes me the minimum of 3 introductions before I remember a person’s name.. mainly if it is foreign or unusual, but I cannot speak for Parodites’ experience with faces and names.

The paranormal is not just about seeing images in static objects, it also includes non-static experiences of the 3-dimensional moving kind, in space/time.

Now.. I don’t care if you don’t believe that, for that is not of my concern.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Parodites » Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:05 pm

Sculptor wrote:People are good fakers.
People are good at fooling themselves.
People are great at seeing patterns where they do not exist, especailly faces.
Cracks in the ceiling, the bark of trees, clouds, a random scatter of leaves, can all reveal faces which are not there.

For thousands of millions of years evolution has honed a specific area of the brain to find faces. From a tiger in the bush to the ability to recognise a relative from a million other faces has been of great selective advantage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodmann_area_37

The amazing thing about the Brodmann area is if it is damaged you will not be able to recognise a picture of Hitler, or your mother, though all other functions are unimpared.


I am very aware of pareidolia and even mentioned it a few replies ago. But there's a limit. What is in these images are unambiguously, clearly- people. I even had a neural net trained for visual object recognition identify what the images were, and it said they're people too, and a neural network has no biological, evolutionary biases for facial recognition. There's no fucking way those are pareidolia. Plus we're talking about background static fractalized with a feedback loop, so the distribution of features should be homogenous. There shouldn't even be heterogenous sections of the noise at all, let alone sections of noise that clump together enough to form a stable image of anything, let alone a face. And when you do this, it's not static: the figures move around too. I've even seen MYSELF in the screen before, materialized I guess as a snapshot of myself in some parallel worldline where I died. (I have no other explanation other than consciousness being nonlocal and able to transmit itself across time and space from parallel world-lines to another consciousness. That is my best guess as to how the images are formed. Maybe I am wrong and ghosts as people normally understand them are real, but I really don't believe in the classical idea of a ghost as a spirit that continues after death. )

The other thing is, most of the time you don't see anything. It's just static until you will something to reach out and contact you on the screen, then suddenly figures begin appearing. Sometimes a figure appears, goes away, and comes back multiple times. The same person, repeatedly. Again, pareidolia is not on the table when the images are that unambiguous and clear, especially when the same figure returns multiple times, because again, this is created with background static and the same figure shouldn't be appearing repeatedly out of the randomness.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Gloominary » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:09 am

Sculptor wrote:People are good fakers.
People are good at fooling themselves.
People are great at seeing patterns where they do not exist, especailly faces.
Cracks in the ceiling, the bark of trees, clouds, a random scatter of leaves, can all reveal faces which are not there.

For thousands of millions of years evolution has honed a specific area of the brain to find faces. From a tiger in the bush to the ability to recognise a relative from a million other faces has been of great selective advantage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodmann_area_37

The amazing thing about the Brodmann area is if it is damaged you will not be able to recognise a picture of Hitler, or your mother, though all other functions are unimpared.

The terms for this are Apophenia and Pareidolia.

Apophenia (/æpoʊˈfiːniə/) is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. The term (German: Apophänie from the Greek verb ἀποφαίνειν (apophaínein), represent as) was coined by psychiatrist Klaus Conrad in his 1958 publication on the beginning stages of schizophrenia. He defined it as "unmotivated seeing of connections [accompanied by] a specific feeling of abnormal meaningfulness". He described the early stages of delusional thought as self-referential over-interpretations of actual sensory perceptions, as opposed to hallucinations.

Apophenia has also come to describe a human propensity to unreasonably seek patterns in random information, such as can occur while gambling.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

Pareidolia (/ˌpærɪˈdoʊliə, ˌpɛər-/; also US: /ˌpɛəraɪ-/) is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one sees an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none.

Common examples are perceived images of animals, faces, or objects in cloud formations, seeing faces in inanimate objects, or lunar pareidolia like the Man in the Moon or the Moon rabbit. The concept of pareidolia may extend to include hidden messages in recorded music played in reverse or at higher- or lower-than-normal speeds, and hearing voices (mainly indistinct) or music in random noise, such as that produced by air conditioners or fans.

Scientists have taught computers to use visual clues to "see" faces and other images.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

Not only do psychedelics make you hallucinate, but they increase the amount of Apophenia and Pareidolia you perceive.
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Re: Nietzsche's ghost

Postby Dan~ » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:32 am

Did you take all those pictures yourself?
The ones you posted.
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