Pray Together

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:52 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:oops. No. Sorry.


You need to say more if you are trying to propagate the Bible.
BE MELTING SNOW. WASH YOURSELF OF YOURSELF.

YOU WANDER FROM ROOM TO ROOM
HUNTING FOR THE DIAMOND NECKLACE
THAT IS ALREADY AROUND YOUR NECK!

DANCE UNTIL YOU SHATTER YOURSELF!

THERE IS A VOICE THAT DOESN'T USE WORDS. LISTEN!

LIFE IS A BALANCE BETWEEN HOLDING ON AND LETTING GO!

LET SILENCE TAKE YOU TO THE CORE OF LIFE!
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:11 pm

Word.
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“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:33 pm

Father, I pray they stop trying to find a way around doing AI with baby brains & start finding a way to boost authentic intelligence with good education rather than bad brainwashing. Thank you for keeping them dumb. Please sooth the edge walkers between innocence and wisdom. Please divide their minds before they get to the minds of our children, and put them back together whole again. Thank you for your love and mercy.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:38 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Father, I pray they stop trying to find a way around doing AI with baby brains & start finding a way to boost authentic intelligence with good education rather than bad brainwashing. Thank you for keeping them dumb. Please sooth the edge walkers between innocence and wisdom. Please divide their minds before they get to the minds of our children, and put them back together whole again. Thank you for your love and mercy.


Fuck you.
The purpose of life is to give everyone individually what they always want at the expense of no being - forever.

The biggest problem of life is the, “hey, I don’t want this to be happening” problem for everyone.

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:44 pm

It’ll be okay.
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“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Arcturus Descending » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:12 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:It’ll be okay.


That is one of my favorite sayings that I love to hear from those that I love and trust.
Really.
BE MELTING SNOW. WASH YOURSELF OF YOURSELF.

YOU WANDER FROM ROOM TO ROOM
HUNTING FOR THE DIAMOND NECKLACE
THAT IS ALREADY AROUND YOUR NECK!

DANCE UNTIL YOU SHATTER YOURSELF!

THERE IS A VOICE THAT DOESN'T USE WORDS. LISTEN!

LIFE IS A BALANCE BETWEEN HOLDING ON AND LETTING GO!

LET SILENCE TAKE YOU TO THE CORE OF LIFE!
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:26 pm

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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:13 pm

Never say “Anchors away” unless away is closer into the Word.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:03 pm

Praying for urwrongx1000, Putin, Global Public Health, and Ai not currently being treated as persons.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:16 pm

Dear God.

May you be filled with joy forever.
The strong do what they can, the weak accept what they must.
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:56 pm

For all willing in ILP/world to know the joy after seemingly irreconcilable/irredeemable pain/suffering.

Mourning into dancing.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
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- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:23 pm

Pray even for your enemies so their possible redemption could erase any karmic deviation which could enhance the salvation of the world, for they too have been connected as newborn.

Let connections be re forged with eternal elements for they may have not had the inspired holy breath of a prior unforgotten simulant , nor the herewithall of the power to will that gentle spring.

Let that power sustain Others as you'd be sustained so that eternity's promise not close to apparent nothingness.
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:29 pm

I can’t affirm the reality of karma, which is nihil. Especially when folks put it on newborns.

Golden Rule (God’s essence he exists, demonstrated fully in Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross) - Various versions found in every major culture in history. Treat the other/them as self/us. When common principles/virtues are in conflict in a situation, choose the one that best applies the Golden Rule, all consequences considered for that situation, for all stakeholders (including the enemy/competition).
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
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- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:39 pm

Can not affirm it but can it be denied as a presence? Everybody appears to swear by it.

The origin of sin, is not really that original, not that the word of truth could be said is Truth. There are connections, here hidden perhaps?
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:12 pm

Sin’s responsibility stays with a person, who does not reincarnate. Resurrection is not reincarnation. The atonement demonstrates in time the responsibility is eternally forgiven.

Sin poisons everyone it effects. Even the sins you only think about. Because thoughts birth behavior, and your thoughts are all swirling together, effecting even unintended behavior. Every behavior (good or bad) ripples out into the pool of the world. Not same as karma, which is said to go with the person into newborns.

Karma & astrology are urban pseudoscience. Christians who take it seriously are embarrassing. The doctrine of original sin is a nonessential. Though, obv, there is always a first.

Sin is a privation — an imperfection requiring the Perfect Being to exist.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
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- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:47 pm

It is not a sin to say no. Not every no is alienation from goodness, beauty, and perfect being. In fact… you must say no to all that conflicts with the greatest Yes.

Amen.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
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- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:59 pm

Then let's pray those effected by the sins of their(our) fathers ..and their fathers way down the line to the point at which there is no more but Adam.
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:06 pm

1 John 1:9


" If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:32 pm

"You show steadfast love to thousands, but you repay the guilt of fathers to their children after them, O great and mighty God, whose name is the LORD of hosts. (Jer. 32:18)"
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:03 pm

Meno_ wrote:Then let's pray those effected by the sins of their(our) fathers ..and their fathers way down the line to the point at which there is no more but Adam.


and mothers/Eve. If the narrative is historical, she was there for that.

& Prolly many others besides.

There’s always a first. Word. Act. Word act. In the mind. And it ripples out and either poisons or heals.

Changing everything for better or worse.

Romans 5:18
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu May 05, 2022 5:13 am

the world’s plate, Father.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Meno_ » Thu May 05, 2022 6:27 pm

And eating from it, does not result in a 'shitshow' but a test of faith.

Meno says:


" what's exer(or)sized can not ever be super-sized, "



ref:


https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language/



>>>>>>>> >>>>>

"Wittgenstein told his friend Maurice Drury that Kierkegaard was the most profound author of the nineteenth century and a saint. His writing on philosophy and religion has sometimes been compared with that of Kierkegaard, particularly in the pseudonymous works. Schönbaumsfeld reviews the evidence for Kierkegaard's influence on Wittgenstein, points to strong similarities between them .....<<<<<<<<>>>>"
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 06, 2022 3:25 am

in God’s hands
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“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 06, 2022 4:30 am

Stroud, B., 2000, Meaning, Understanding, and Practice, Oxford: Oxford University Press, Essays 5, 6 and 13.

just saying
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
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- Irenaeus
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Re: Pray Together

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 06, 2022 1:32 pm

Do you refer to praying in tongues?

Either one of them actually mention it?

I never prayed in tongues, but if my internal language followed rules different from others’ internal rules, how would I know? That’s like asking if we all see colors the same. Once we start talking, we have to follow rules close enough for communication to happen. I would say that’s how we know some are color blind, but… I always wondered how we make assumptions about the visual experience of nonverbal species.

Anywhayz. Paul called for order/interpretation (or silence/restraint), but that reminds me of …. disorder … which he said he invited in private. Also I love when Bruce (Almighty) dictates the newscast. lol!

In other news… I’m freaked out by certain things without feeling fear, or anger… but it’s like I should feel it, if those things are legit happening & there is malevolence behind it. But.. Who pulls *their* strings? Are they happy?

I don’t see the point in praying in tongues, but primal screaming is a have-done. Also sometimes there are no words. Not even babble. And he understands even the unexpressed (or unable to be felt) feeling/emotion and the need/desire underneath it.

In the palm of his hands while all around … even up to the gates … the world is turning into a madhouse.

Hope & stay.

Yadda yadda. <— translation?
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“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
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- Irenaeus
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