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What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby vetenskapsteori » Fri May 13, 2022 10:58 am

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What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Sculptor » Fri May 13, 2022 11:10 am

vetenskapsteori wrote:https://postimg.cc/Vd1H2GxQ

What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?


I call it a fantasy of your own imagination and failure to understand the meaning of time.
If there is ever a paradox, your first duty to understand it is to question the assumptions that make it appear to be paradoxical.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby vetenskapsteori » Fri May 13, 2022 11:23 am

Sculptor wrote:
vetenskapsteori wrote:https://postimg.cc/Vd1H2GxQ

What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?


I call it a fantasy of your own imagination and failure to understand the meaning of time.
If there is ever a paradox, your first duty to understand it is to question the assumptions that make it appear to be paradoxical.


It is like causality, only a metaphore.

Do you have any name for the concept that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future?
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 11:26 am

vetenskapsteori wrote:https://postimg.cc/Vd1H2GxQ

What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?


The word "now" is a POINT. It is like saying 12 O'clock. Prior to 12 O'clock is the past. After 12 O'clock is the future.

<<<<<past.future>>>>>>

The point is "now."
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 11:52 am

vetenskapsteori wrote:https://postimg.cc/Vd1H2GxQ

What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?


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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Sculptor » Fri May 13, 2022 12:05 pm

vetenskapsteori wrote:
Sculptor wrote:
vetenskapsteori wrote:https://postimg.cc/Vd1H2GxQ

What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?


I call it a fantasy of your own imagination and failure to understand the meaning of time.
If there is ever a paradox, your first duty to understand it is to question the assumptions that make it appear to be paradoxical.


It is like causality, only a metaphore.

Do you have any name for the concept that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future?

That is not a question.
The past and future are not separate places.
We are the embodiment of past experience, and the creators of the future, one second at a time.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 12:15 pm

Sculptor wrote:The past and future are not separate places.
We are the embodiment of past experience, and the creators of the future, one second at a time.


Past and future are not places, they are descriptions of time that has past (the past) and time that has yet to come (the future).

If you think the past and the future are not separate, then you are saying that if it's 12 O'clock now, that the previous 11:30 of the past is the same as the future 12:30.

Here's a clue: At 12:00, it is now, and 11:30 is the past, and 12:30 is the future.

At 12:00, 11:59:59 is the past, and 12:00:01 is the future. That is a fact. If you deny that you are playing word games with yourself!
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 12:35 pm

you can slice smaller than a second & you both know it

anywhays
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri May 13, 2022 12:36 pm

vetenskapsteori wrote:https://postimg.cc/Vd1H2GxQ

What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?

I think it is called "existence".
The past and future do not exist - they are merely the residue and fate of what was and will be.
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    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 12:41 pm

since several moments/nows are blended before/beyond the beginning, they exist, just not necessarily in/to our now (us)
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 12:41 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:you can slice smaller than a second & you both know it

anywhays


Your point is that you can have a smaller slice of time prior to and past 12:00??

12:00 is a POINT IN TIME.
.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 second prior to 12:00 is the past
.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 second after 12:00 is the future.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 12:46 pm

Wherever you go, t(here) it is now. exact numbers are not helpful to explain it.

But Google atomic clock. The second is not the smallest unit.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 12:51 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Wherever you go, t(here) it is now. exact numbers are not helpful to explain it.

But Google atomic clock. The second is not the smallest unit.


So there is .00001 seconds in the past at 12 O'clock is what you're trying to say? You're also saying that at 12:00 there is .00000001 seconds in the future?

A point has no dimensions, it is a point.

Anything prior to 12:00 is the past. At 12:00 (now) anything after 12:00 is the future. Simple.

Anything less than 100 is 99 and some change.
Anything more than 100 is 100 and some change.

Less <100
More >100

Past < 12:00
Now = 12:00
Future > 12:00
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 1:05 pm

A moment is more like pi. No limit after the decimal.

You’re getting cooler, not warmer.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 1:35 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:A moment is more like pi. No limit after the decimal.

You’re getting cooler, not warmer.


What are you defining a "moment" as, a user defined duration of time?

So a moment is 5 minutes? 10 minutes? 3 years? 2,000 years? 50 billion years? Are they all a "moment" to you?
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 2:00 pm

Physically, think planck:
https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... k#p2861102

…but don’t forget that in doing your calculations, this is all being sustained in God‘s mind and he can end it arbitrarily without any math.

Make plans. God laughs.

Bless your heart.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 2:03 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Physically, think planck:
https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... k#p2861102

…but don’t forget that in doing your calculations, this is all being sustained in God‘s mind and he can end it arbitrarily without any math.

Make plans. God laughs.

Bless your heart.


Red or green it's that pink or shoelaces. That, and dirt = air and water = fire. So that proves boots are green!
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 2:11 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:Physically, think planck:
https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... k#p2861102

…but don’t forget that in doing your calculations, this is all being sustained in God‘s mind and he can end it arbitrarily without any math.

Make plans. God laughs.

Bless your heart.


Red or green it's that pink or shoelaces. That, and dirt = air and water = fire. So that proves boots are green!


All we need to do is put our heads together and manifest a better future just like we’re upholding the universe right now. Before we were born. Humans. We’re so retarded. We’re OK with a bunch of imperfect minds creating and sustaining the entire universe (as we rush headlong towards our own self-destruction), but we don’t want to accept a perfect mind who could actually do it (& does, in fact).

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 2:13 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:
Motor Daddy wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:Physically, think planck:
https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... k#p2861102

…but don’t forget that in doing your calculations, this is all being sustained in God‘s mind and he can end it arbitrarily without any math.

Make plans. God laughs.

Bless your heart.


Red or green it's that pink or shoelaces. That, and dirt = air and water = fire. So that proves boots are green!


All we need to do is put our heads together and manifest a better future just like we’re upholding the universe right now. Before we were born. Humans. We’re so retarded. We’re OK with a bunch of imperfect minds creating and sustaining the entire universe (as we rush headlong towards our own self-destruction), but we don’t want to accept a perfect mind who could actually do it (& does, in fact).

Radio belly! Cat shovel!


You're pretty good at this game. Let me try:

Sugar and gold are cars and trucks. If then what or I am so red potatoes don't. Money and would get here this does you. Know light and has did find.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 2:22 pm

Basically & precisely, that is essentially not what I’m trying to put forth.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Motor Daddy » Fri May 13, 2022 2:26 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Basically & precisely, that is essentially not what I’m trying to put forth.


You mean you aren't stringing together a bunch of words that are nonsense? I thought you were playing the nonsense word game?

I had that idea when I asked you how you define a "moment" and you started stringing words that were total nonsense, so I thought I'd give it a try. How did I do, pretty good?

How about you answer the question? How do you define a "moment?"

Or would you rather see which one of us can string together more nonsense?
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby MagsJ » Fri May 13, 2022 4:35 pm

vetenskapsteori wrote:https://postimg.cc/Vd1H2GxQ

What do you call the time-barrier that prevents us from experiencing the past and the future? The invisible wall that separates our "now" from the past and the future on a timeline?

The past| The Now | The Future

Is there a word for the "|" ?

Fate!

..which is not the same as determinism or pre-determinism, but more erring on the side of compatabilism.. for anything post or prior to it does not exist, no matter what the margin of error.

What exactly is the margin of error? 8-[

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Meno_ » Fri May 13, 2022 4:50 pm

Simpler: if time does not exist and one is born that way then learning of it is essential.

If born with time on time then unlearned it is is peripheral.

At every moment in time, learning and unlearned have to occur digitally, not analytically.


Therefore time can not have ever existed before this moment, but has to after it.

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby MagsJ » Fri May 13, 2022 5:00 pm

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..clears floor, for further debate.. coz this ain’t it yet!
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri May 13, 2022 5:10 pm

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The only thing that affects the now - is the now.
And if it doesn't affect the now - it doesn't exist now.
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