What do you call the time-barrier?

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 5:14 pm

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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 5:15 pm

see^2
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Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri May 13, 2022 5:17 pm

see^3 (green is yellow sorry) oh p.s. middle is meaning

…and obviously I didn’t think of all this myself. Some of it I got from studying, but if any of it is true, everybody who was teaching me … they/we all got it from God.
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Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat May 14, 2022 9:38 am

Deja-Vu: Loss of discernment of Time (and Space) is commonly referred to as Deja Vu. Another, larger concept referring to the same phenomenon is "Purgatory" or being "stuck in time". Both of these occur when a mind/brain cannot orient itself in a perspective of past/present/future. The cognitive default of all conscious beings is "in the present". However, the memorization process (representing the Past) and the projection-imaginative process (representing the Future) can "cross-over" into the active Cognition of the brain. When this happens, the brain becomes unable to differentiate between past, present, and future.

People call these 'Deja Vu' moments "eerie, weird, strange, freaky, supernatural", because they may correspond to Subconscious or Unconscious processes of the brain which intuit patterns which remain constant in the past, present, and future. People who are deeply habituated in a daily-cycle, will have this feeling more often, as that daily-cycle repeats itself consistently and frequently (more frequently than people who do not have Habitual lifestyles).

There can also be Cognitive/Brain defects which afflict an individual to become unable to differentiate past-present-future entirely, resulting in forms of madness and "schizophrenia".
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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby MagsJ » Sat May 14, 2022 10:51 am

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I have had more Deja Vus this year, than in all My other years combined.

urwrong said: There can also be Cognitive/Brain defects which afflict an individual to become unable to differentiate past-present-future entirely, resulting in forms of madness and "schizophrenia".

In the old days we called that 'confusion', now there’s a pill for that/for everything, which may exacerbate the/a condition over time.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

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Re: What do you call the time-barrier?

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat May 14, 2022 11:23 am

We report, you diagnose ;)

I have had déjà vu, and also researched its connection to brain dysfunction. I have specific memories of it. None of them were disorienting or unpleasant. None of them involve a loss of the concept of time [neither does the blending of moments…in terms of what’s *actually* going on around you (not just the moments blending in your mind/internal experience)]. The blending of two+ moments….let’s just say it hits different than déjà vu. With déjà vu, what you are currently experiencing in one single moment feels like you have experienced before. The reaction to the blending of two+ moments is not a reaction to what you are *currently* experiencing (until you are in the context of the future moment…but even then…remembering your first experience of that moment…when you weren’t in its context yet…I mean…that’s not a normal memory to have!). You can very much tell the difference between what’s really happening *right now* and the blending. Grasping at different theories to explain it … that’s the legit (but in hindsight, understandable) crazy part. Stuff you were absolutely sure was delusional turns out to be part of a future moment (and sometimes not all that crazy in the context of their moment). I still have a lot of memories I am still pretty sure were delusional. I hope they stay that way, or their contexts prove them to be not all that crazy. When I experience their contexts, it reminds me nothing surprises God. But it also concerns me that a big shift is coming, and we’re not ready to process or respond to it. How will other minds handle it, if that’s how I handled it? I was never diagnosed with anything other than sleep deprivation-induced psychosis based on my own reported information during a check up with a family physician (humored my MFT dad despite wanting to avoid weird treatments if institutionalized), which held back most of what I was still struggling to describe to myself. I was not under the influence, nor was I prescribed any medication for the *symptoms* I divulged, and I never saw another doctor about it. And never saw an actual therapist. The craziest of the blending lasted a few months (gradually decreasing in volume) before I eventually learned how to slow it. The racing thoughts could be considered a symptom of mania…again…undiagnosed.

I called the rapid blending (end of 2005 into 2006, before I got a handle on it) the fiery whirlwind. I can see how others would label it purgatory. I was an atheist when it hit, and when I was a Christian prior to that, I was not a Catholic and did not believe in purgatory—and never felt “stuck in time”.

If scientists experimenting with time or black holes or AI could explain the blending… and why it was targeted at my experience so others were exempt … I’d still tell them they’d need God’s assistance to blend moments/experience from outside/beyond/before them. I am open to science having been able to send *information* between moments without actually changing anything. This was not that (and no - nothing changes…but that is not fatalistic…it’s all alive and cocreative).

TMI? lol

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Another name besides event horizon is veil.
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.
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