A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Lorikeet » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:25 pm

Didn't you freaks hear?
The US will last forever....it is the Last Empire, full of Last Men.
After comes Armageddon. I read it as a prophesy - a self-fulfillnig prediction. It's all in a book, by the book, for the book.
All I have are book smarts.

No street smarts, like Pedro, the blossoming cRap star.
He disappeared when Brian informed him he wasn't going to be a famous cRap fArtist.
It hurt bad, after so many years of being told, by the guru, that he was gifted and would make it big.
Failed dreams become hobbies, and then embarrassing anecdotes we share with friends and loved ones before we die.
Naïve dreams....are swept under the carpet, never to be spoken of, never to be recalled.

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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Great Again » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:57 pm

Meno_ wrote:There is really no end to the Malthusuan problem, a previously mysterious , underdeveloped, problem that since exploded into the exterior, that can not be ignored , since it challenges world peace.

Whoever speaks of a Malthusian problem always presupposes that it exists.

Malthus has not only miscalculated, but he has also - out of fear of the proletariat (today: precariat) - relied on his likewise wrong conclusions.

Meno_ wrote:The humongous problem with explosive Chinese population control was previously solved by a simple but useful method:

Little boy babies were spared and prayed for , cause of their work-ability, whereas tiny little girls were drawned in the river.

And once, the "nice guy" Mao went to the "nice guy" Stalin and asked him to take military action together with him against the "capitalist world", i.e. to start a world war, because he could calmly sacrifice half a billion Chinese.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Meno_ » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:09 pm

Ukraine War Shows West's Dominance Is Ending as China Rises, Blair Says
By Reuters Wire Service Content • July 17, 2022, at 4:19 a.m.

By Guy Faulconbridge

LONDON (Reuters) - The Ukraine war shows that the West's dominance is coming to an end as China rises to superpower status in partnership with Russia at one of the most significant inflection points in centuries, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair said.

The world, Blair said, was at a turning point in history comparable with the end of World War Two or the collapse of the Soviet Union: but this time the West is clearly not in the ascendant.

"We are coming to the end of Western political and economic dominance," Blair said in a lecture entitled "After Ukraine, What Lessons Now for Western Leadership?" according to a text of the speech to a forum supporting the alliance between the United States and Europe at Ditchley Park west of London.


"The world is going to be at least bi-polar and possibly multi-polar," Blair said. "The biggest geo-political change of this century will come from China not Russia."
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:01 pm

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I was wondering if anyone remembered this thread. :wink:

obsrvr524 wrote:Currently in the US China is fully involved in keeping America divided in hatred while attempting every means to prevent themselves from being seen as involved. They literally assassinate people who might expose them. The Jewish left does the exact same thing (it isn't a new strategy). In Christianity and Islam it is known as "The Devil" (a strategy not a person).

Right now it is a battle - The Devil vs Donald Trump. Never speak of China, "It is the Russians".

So what we are all living through RIGHT NOW is actually WW3 - East vs West - phase 1.

Do any of you realize which side you have been actively supporting?
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby MagsJ » Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:59 pm

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What is China doing, that is even hinting at any of this happening?

The 'not new' Russia/Ukraine debacle, has been weaponised by the West.. what’s next! oh yea, China.. as enemy number one.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:58 pm

MagsJ wrote:_
What is China doing, that is even hinting at any of this happening?

The 'not new' Russia/Ukraine debacle, has been weaponised by the West.. what’s next! oh yea, China.. as enemy number one.

It is sad to think that you are not just kidding.

China has been using extortion to take over countries all over the world -- their "belt and road initiative".
  • They have built up a navy larger than the USA - largest in the world.
  • They forbid other nations from speaking against them else they economically attack.
  • They steal technology more than any country except possibly Israel.
  • They have warned the USA to stay away from the effort to take over Taiwan "or risk all out war".
  • They have been kicked out of places in the USA for espionage.
  • They have tried to take land from India - but India fought back.
  • They have made military pacts with Canada
  • They are buying up massive amounts of farm land in the USA (and near military bases).
  • They have publicly stated that they are going to be the only sovereign nation in the world and replace the USA as the dominate power.
    .. And more..


Not to mention their COVID attack and guess who is currently working on Monkey Pox? - None other than that same Wuhan lab in China (why not - the West isn't going to do anything to stop them).
              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
    It's just the same Satanism as always -
    • separate the bottom from the top,
    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --

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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:10 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:China has been using extortion to take over countries all over the world -- their "belt and road initiative".
  • They have built up a navy larger than the USA - largest in the world.
  • They forbid other nations from speaking against them else they economically attack.
  • They steal technology more than any country except possibly Israel.
  • They have warned the USA to stay away from the effort to take over Taiwan "or risk all out war".
  • They have been kicked out of places in the USA for espionage.
  • They have tried to take land from India - but India fought back.
  • They have made military pacts with Canada
  • They are buying up massive amounts of farm land in the USA (and near military bases).
  • They have publicly stated that they are going to be the only sovereign nation in the world and replace the USA as the dominate power.
    .. And more..


Not to mention their COVID attack and guess who is currently working on Monkey Pox? - None other than that same Wuhan lab in China (why not - the West isn't going to do anything to stop them).


So you're saying we should consider the American business owners that sold out to China as "traitors" and hang them in the streets?

American business owners sold the United States to China for personal gain. The US has what, GM and Ford left, of which most of that is made in Mexico?

Anything to save a buck, right? Ruin your country in the name of personal gain. I think they call that treason, punishable by DEATH!
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby origami » Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:53 am

obsrvr524 wrote:-
I was wondering if anyone remembered this thread. :wink:

obsrvr524 wrote:Currently in the US China is fully involved in keeping America divided in hatred while attempting every means to prevent themselves from being seen as involved. They literally assassinate people who might expose them. The Jewish left does the exact same thing (it isn't a new strategy). In Christianity and Islam it is known as "The Devil" (a strategy not a person).

Right now it is a battle - The Devil vs Donald Trump. Never speak of China, "It is the Russians".

So what we are all living through RIGHT NOW is actually WW3 - East vs West - phase 1.

Do any of you realize which side you have been actively supporting?


What's Jewish about it you stupid cuck?

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obsrvr524 wrote:China has been using extortion to take over countries all over the world -- their "belt and road initiative".
  • They have built up a navy larger than the USA - largest in the world.
  • They forbid other nations from speaking against them else they economically attack.
  • They steal technology more than any country except possibly Israel.
  • They have warned the USA to stay away from the effort to take over Taiwan "or risk all out war".
  • They have been kicked out of places in the USA for espionage.
  • They have tried to take land from India - but India fought back.
  • They have made military pacts with Canada
  • They are buying up massive amounts of farm land in the USA (and near military bases).
  • They have publicly stated that they are going to be the only sovereign nation in the world and replace the USA as the dominate power.
    .. And more..


Not to mention their COVID attack and guess who is currently working on Monkey Pox? - None other than that same Wuhan lab in China (why not - the West isn't going to do anything to stop them).


So you're saying we should consider the American business owners that sold out to China as "traitors" and hang them in the streets?

American business owners sold the United States to China for personal gain. The US has what, GM and Ford left, of which most of that is made in Mexico?

Anything to save a buck, right? Ruin your country in the name of personal gain. I think they call that treason, punishable by DEATH!


China was going to outcompete the USA anyway, the only question was whether the businesses running Chinese manufacturing would be Chinese or US American owned.

Blame your politicians for making it prohibitively expensive to operate in the US. Made in USA is still globally recognized as a seal of quality. Bunch of ultra skilled workers sitting on their asses.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:17 am

origami wrote:What's Jewish about it you stupid cuck?

As a party - they are famous for it throughout Europe you snowflake - and right now are very obviously in lockstep with the globalists (Sen Schumer - a very serious liar - as merely one example from the unified group).

Motor Daddy wrote:American business owners sold the United States to China for personal gain. The US has what, GM and Ford left, of which most of that is made in Mexico?

Anything to save a buck, right? Ruin your country in the name of personal gain. I think they call that treason, punishable by DEATH!

US public corporations are required by law to be dollar chasing robots. They are obligated to make the most money for their shareholders - regardless of personal profit -- so that crock don't bite.

Guess who made those laws? Not the CEO's - not the shareholders -- politicians - getting personal gains by doing so - a great many of whom are compromised by China and the surveillance state.

And corporations making money in China wasn't the issue - it is how they are making that money.

origami wrote:China was going to outcompete the USA anyway

So now you are a prophet? You know when to jump into the future? You knew COVID would come and be squashed so quickly? Zookers!

The CCP thought the US would lose over 1/3 of its population over at least 5 years to COVID (that is what Dr Fauci promised them) -- they didn't expect - or appreciate - Mr Trump and Warp Speed.

Edited: Corrected quote name.
Last edited by obsrvr524 on Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
    It's just the same Satanism as always -
    • separate the bottom from the top,
    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --

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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby origami » Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:41 am

obsrvr524 wrote:So now you are a prophet? You know when to jump into the future? You knew COVID would come and be squashed so quickly? Zookers!


Actually I did. Not because I am a prophet, but because it didn't take a genius. A manufactured crisis will have a duration to coincide with the issue it is used to address.

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origami wrote:American business owners sold the United States to China for personal gain. The US has what, GM and Ford left, of which most of that is made in Mexico?

Anything to save a buck, right? Ruin your country in the name of personal gain. I think they call that treason, punishable by DEATH!

US public corporations are required by law to be dollar chasing robots. They are obligated to make the most money for their shareholders - regardless of personal profit -- so that crock don't bite.

Guess who made those laws? Not the CEO's - not the shareholders -- politicians - getting personal gains by doing so - a great many of whom are compromised by China and the surveillance state.

And corporations making money in China wasn't the issue - it is how they are making that money.


Why are you putting my name on things I didn't write?

I otherwise agree with your retort.

obsrvr524 wrote:
origami wrote:What's Jewish about it you stupid cuck?

As a party - they are famous for it throughout Europe you snowflake - and right now are very obviously in lockstep with the globalists (Sen Schumer - a very serious liar - as merely one example from the unified group).


As a party?

What a dumb motherfucker you are. Like Ilhan Omar you are, exactly.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby origami » Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:44 am

Chuck Shumer by the way who is an anti Zionist. Self hating Jew.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Sculptor » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:25 am

obsrvr524 wrote:I had considered posting this last year but seeing how no one here was interested or knowledgeable at all about international activities, I put it off. But now, especially after COVID (the "China Virus") and the expose' of China's involvement with Mr Hidin, Lyin Biden, I decided to introduce what seems a revelation to most people on this board.

Since the 1980's China has been fully engaged in The Art of War (- Sun Tzu) with the West. The tactic is spelled out in the book as, "Don't declare war until you have already won". And what that means is that you secretly, subtly (using "minuscule affects = affectance") undermine your opponent while appearing to be innocent and even sympathetic. Once they are obviously too weak to fight a war, declare war and take over.

The undermining is always an issue of causing internal chaos, division, disease, poverty, and blind reactive hatred within the opponent. Get them to fight among themselves. The US CIA and Israel's Mosad are world famous for instigating this behavior within countries they want to change. That is why they are referred to as "Big Satan and Little Satan".

and while they are declining, you quietly build up your own weapons of war. China has done that in spades. Who has been funding them for the past 40 years? The West (out of sympathy for being an "underdeveloped country"). Now they are extremely ready for war except that Mr Trump quickly rebuilt the US military - "drats foiled again". Now China must get a sympathizer into the White House so that the US military can be re-depleted as Mr Obama had kindly done before. Hidin, Lyin Binen - "China is no threat. They are good people".

Currently in the US China is fully involved in keeping America divided in hatred while attempting every means to prevent themselves from being seen as involved. They literally assassinate people who might expose them. The Jewish left does the exact same thing (it isn't a new strategy). In Christianity and Islam it is known as "The Devil" (a strategy not a person).

Right now it is a battle - The Devil vs Donald Trump. Never speak of China, "It is the Russians".

So what we are all living through RIGHT NOW is actually WW3 - East vs West - phase 1.

Do any of you realize which side you have been actively supporting?


There is so much wrong with this it is hard to know where to start.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Sculptor » Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:27 am

origami wrote:Chuck Shumer by the way who is an anti Zionist. Self hating Jew.



All self respecting Jews are anti-zionist.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:48 pm

origami wrote:Why are you putting my name on things I didn't write?

My apologies - been corrected - feel free to do the same.
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    It's just the same Satanism as always -
    • separate the bottom from the top,
    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --

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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:51 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:China has been using extortion to take over countries all over the world -- their "belt and road initiative".
  • They have built up a navy larger than the USA - largest in the world.
  • They forbid other nations from speaking against them else they economically attack.
  • They steal technology more than any country except possibly Israel.
  • They have warned the USA to stay away from the effort to take over Taiwan "or risk all out war".
  • They have been kicked out of places in the USA for espionage.
  • They have tried to take land from India - but India fought back.
  • They have made military pacts with Canada
  • They are buying up massive amounts of farm land in the USA (and near military bases).
  • They have publicly stated that they are going to be the only sovereign nation in the world and replace the USA as the dominate power.
    .. And more..


Not to mention their COVID attack and guess who is currently working on Monkey Pox? - None other than that same Wuhan lab in China (why not - the West isn't going to do anything to stop them).


So you're saying we should should consider the American business owners that sold out to China as "traitors" and hang them in the streets?

American business owners sold the United States to China for personal gain. The US has what, GM and Ford left, of which most of that is made in Mexico?

Anything to save a buck, right? Ruin your country in the name of personal gain. I think they call that treason, punishable by DEATH!

Yes, China is guilty/responsible for most of those things, but some one/country/countries sold them those battleships, submarines, weaponry etc..
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

Examine what is said, not him who speaks ~Arab proverb

aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:24 pm

MagsJ wrote:Yes, China is guilty/responsible for most of those things, but some one/country/countries sold them those battleships, submarines, weaponry etc..

I don't think so. It seems that they gain serious profits from extortion deals and then use that money to build ships (and steal more information and bribe more politicians and silence more dissenters and ---).

One of the primary concerns that I had with James' posts was his statements concerning "obfuscation and extortion" - because that is EXACTLY what the CCP has been doing to the world for almost a century.

  • Create confusion and conflict ("obfuscation")
  • Wait for or secretly create a catastrophe (wait for or create the right moment)
  • Offer to remedy the problem upon compliance with CCP wishes (extortion)

"Give me what I want - and I will go away" (but only until next time).
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    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
    It's just the same Satanism as always -
    • separate the bottom from the top,
    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --

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Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Meno_ » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:13 am

China wins by default, it will sacrifice it's paper tigered. ancient dragon , for the sake of social majority. No doubt .
Trump was right fir the minority view, but it would have held on to it maybe for another term.
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