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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:42 pm

Communists do believe in forcing parents to raise their children specific ways. As long as its them doing the forcing.

What Motor Daddy was saying obviously amonts to ethical advice, don't put a too too on a two year old boy. nobody could make a law a on that and enforce it, it's ridiculous. We all cry a little inside when we see it, but there is nothing we can do about it, or would bothr ourselves with doing something about.

On the other hand, forcing a child to spend half of their waking time under the supervision of people they neither know nor trust in an environment where children are known to rutinely go insane and go on murder suicide rampages, that can be and is enforced.

Why have we not heard this communist lunatic's opinion on whether Motor Daddy should be forced to send his children to school, when his outrage was so righteous and clean at the suggestion that his parenting should be questioned?

He doesn't care about the children, he doesn't care about the parents.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:51 pm

origami wrote:Communists do believe in forcing parents to raise their children specific ways. As long as its them doing the forcing.

What Motor Daddy was saying obviously amonts to ethical advice, don't put a too too on a two year old boy. nobody could make a law a on that and enforce it, it's ridiculous. We all cry a little inside when we see it, but there is nothing we can do about it, or would bothr ourselves with doing something about.

On the other hand, forcing a child to spend half of their waking time under the supervision of people they neither know nor trust in an environment where children are known to rutinely go insane and go on murder suicide rampages, that can be and is enforced.

Why have we not heard this communist lunatic's opinion on whether Motor Daddy should be forced to send his children to school, when his outrage was so righteous and clean at the suggestion that his parenting should be questioned?

He doesn't care about the children, he doesn't care about the parents.


K: as I have no, zero control over whether he sends his kids to school or not,
it really, really, really doesn't matter what I believe..

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to put me on ignore, life would be good..

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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Motor Daddy » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:04 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:K: as I have no, zero control over whether he sends his kids to school or not,
it really, really, really doesn't matter what I believe..

Kropotkin


Are you good with me teaching a 2 year old kid to be a white supremecist? Does that matter to you?
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:08 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
origami wrote:Communists do believe in forcing parents to raise their children specific ways. As long as its them doing the forcing.

What Motor Daddy was saying obviously amonts to ethical advice, don't put a too too on a two year old boy. nobody could make a law a on that and enforce it, it's ridiculous. We all cry a little inside when we see it, but there is nothing we can do about it, or would bothr ourselves with doing something about.

On the other hand, forcing a child to spend half of their waking time under the supervision of people they neither know nor trust in an environment where children are known to rutinely go insane and go on murder suicide rampages, that can be and is enforced.

Why have we not heard this communist lunatic's opinion on whether Motor Daddy should be forced to send his children to school, when his outrage was so righteous and clean at the suggestion that his parenting should be questioned?

He doesn't care about the children, he doesn't care about the parents.


K: as I have no, zero control over whether he sends his kids to school or not,
it really, really, really doesn't matter what I believe..

Kropotkin


Then it shouldn't matter what Motor Daddy believes about your children wearing too toos. So why did it matter to you?
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:21 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Peter Kropotkin wrote:K: as I have no, zero control over whether he sends his kids to school or not,
it really, really, really doesn't matter what I believe..

Kropotkin


Are you good with me teaching a 2 year old kid to be a white supremecist? Does that matter to you?


K: as that is the conservative agenda, I would hope for better, but I
know that I can't stop it... especially at age 2....
but hay, I hope that works out for you.. teaching children how
Hitler was just not as efficient as he could have been.. I mean
what a failure, he only killed 6 million jews, I am sure you can
do better with the modern Nazi party, "GOP/MAGA" party

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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:23 pm

It's settled then, Peter Kropotkin is against government mandated school attendance.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:37 pm

origami wrote:It's settled then, Peter Kropotkin is against government mandated school attendance.


K; you can believe whatever you want to believe.. it really has
nothing to do with me...

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to put me on ignore, life would be good..

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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:41 pm

origami wrote:It's settled then, Peter Kropotkin is against government mandated school attendance.

Ignorance loves company.

Peter Kropotkin wrote:teaching children how
Hitler was just not as efficient as he could have been.. I mean
what a failure, he only killed 6 million jews, I am sure you can
do better with the modern Nazi party,

PK -- assuming that you are merely ignorant and not entirely fraudulent - the modern American "Nazi party" are your Democrat/Socialist/Communist friends -- NOT the conservatives who are attempting to conserve the US Constitution and American independence.

Of course the much greater probability is that you are knowingly dishonest and doing that exact socialist/communist thing - accusing your opponent of your own evilness. That is exactly what the Nazi's did (specifically Goebbels - who learned it from Marx - who taught it to Stalin).

Lying and falsely accusing others of one's own guilt is the hallmark of socialist/communist hegemony.

The question here is - Why do you support it so?
              You have been observed.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Motor Daddy » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:49 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
K: as that is the conservative agenda, I would hope for better, but I
know that I can't stop it... especially at age 2....

Kropotkin


If you had the power to stop it you would interfere with the way I raise my child? Yes?

Peter Kropotkin wrote:...what business of yours
is it how I raise my child and under what conditions...

Kropotkin



It seems you are a bit of a hypocrite. You think it's nobody's business how you raise your kid, but you wouldn't hesitate to intervene and stop someone from raising their kid as a white supremecist, if you could stop it.

I expect that very mentality from you. You tell others to stay out of your life and mind their own business, but you are all up in other people's lives trying to tell them how to raise their kid.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:49 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
origami wrote:It's settled then, Peter Kropotkin is against government mandated school attendance.


K; you can believe whatever you want to believe.. it really has
nothing to do with me...

Kropotkin


So you are for government mandated school attendance then?
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:58 pm

Maybe you're not sure?
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:09 pm

We'll let you think about it.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Magnus Anderson » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:02 pm

origami wrote:It's settled then, Peter Kropotkin is against government mandated school attendance.


I do believe he is into government mandated school attendance. He merely doesn't think that people should be telling other people that they shouldn't be telling their 2 year old sons that they are girls. That was one hell of a sentence.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:04 pm

That's not what he said. What he said was:

K: I finally figured out why this one bothered me so much...
You are telling me how to raise my own child...taking away from
me the right to raise my child as I see fit...what business of yours
is it how I raise my child and under what conditions... what gives you
the right to tell me how to raise my own child...
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:17 pm

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Regardless of anything he says - what he believes is that the government has the sole right to influence or dictate a child's behavior - whatever that takes.
              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
    It's just the same Satanism as always -
    • separate the bottom from the top,
    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --

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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:23 pm

It's still nice to have it all out in the open and cleanly like this.

The lie:

K: I finally figured out why this one bothered me so much...
You are telling me how to raise my own child...taking away from
me the right to raise my child as I see fit...what business of yours
is it how I raise my child and under what conditions... what gives you
the right to tell me how to raise my own child...

The truth:

Regardless of anything he says - what he believes is that the government has the sole right to influence or dictate a child's behavior - whatever that takes.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Magnus Anderson » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:29 pm

What he believes is that HE has the sole right to influence or dictate a child's behavior.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:34 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:What he believes is that HE has the sole right to influence or dictate a child's behavior.

He inherently fails to see or sense the difference between -
    his own dictates and
    what the government should dictate and
    what all people should obey.
To him - they are all one single thought - no distinction to be sought.
              You have been observed.
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    It's just the same Satanism as always -
    • separate the bottom from the top,
    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --

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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby MagsJ » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:53 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:Gangsta rap was allegedly employed to promote excessive masculinity in an effort to turn men against men thereby eliminating each other. That phase is allegedly over and now they are changing the direction of rap music to something that promotes feminization. Both aim to destroy masculinity. But before you accuse me of being overly concerned with masculinity, note that masculinity isn't the only thing that is under attack. Femininity is too. In general, everything that is healthy, effective and successful is under attack.

Then more fool the idiots that fall for it/succumb to its call.. i.e. the gullible!

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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Motor Daddy » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:26 pm

Magnus Anderson wrote:What he believes is that HE has the sole right to influence or dictate a child's behavior.


That's correct. He believes he can raise his kid however he damn well pleases and it's nobody's business as to how he raises the kid or what he does as the parent.

On the other hand, he is ready to take YOUR kid away from you if he determines you are raising the kid wrong.

1. In his mind there is no such thing as him as a parent being a child abuser.
2. In his mind you are abusing your kid if you teach him to be a white supremacist.
3. In his mind it's all good if he teaches his 2 year old son to be a girl.
4. In his mind if you teach your 2 year old son to be a white supremacist you need to have your kid taken away from you because that is child abuse!

Conclusion: Peter is a HYPOCRITE!
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:02 am

MagsJ wrote:
Magnus Anderson wrote:Gangsta rap was allegedly employed to promote excessive masculinity in an effort to turn men against men thereby eliminating each other. That phase is allegedly over and now they are changing the direction of rap music to something that promotes feminization. Both aim to destroy masculinity. But before you accuse me of being overly concerned with masculinity, note that masculinity isn't the only thing that is under attack. Femininity is too. In general, everything that is healthy, effective and successful is under attack.

Then more fool the idiots that fall for it/succumb to its call.. i.e. the gullible!

Prey on the weak/weak minds, to get to the strong.


Isn't it likelier that, instead, forcing boys to spend the greater part of their day submitting, usually to idiots, but in any case submitting, is what is making them girly? Submitting their will, learning not to trust it, getting victories only when it's sneaking around and becoming libertines? Is it any less harmful for girls, who submit their instincts, their intuition, their thinking?

Rap you can just turn off or go do something else. School, good luck.

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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:57 am

Motor Daddy wrote:
Peter Kropotkin wrote: ok, so how do we solve the "gay/trans problem?"

Kropotkin


Step 1: Stop promoting sex changes.

There is a difference between allowing and promoting. It's just your false news that is telling that promotion is taking place. Sexual dysmorphia did not come from no where. It has been a tragic problem for thousands of people for a long time. Modern medical tech provides solutions. You should ask yourself why you are so threatened by it. What are you so scared of. Do not not believe in choice?
Step 2: Stop allowing people with a penis to use a Woman's bathroom.

What about those that no longer have a penis? And once again, what are you so scared of?
Why not just end public space bathrooms?
Step 3: When your 2 year old son claims he is a girl, do NOT go buy a dress and tell him that he has a right to decide if he wants to be a male or female.

It's not up to you is it? Why do you want to impose your beliefs on others. Is this N Korea?
Step 4: Stop changing Birth Certificates.
Step 5: Stop having Rainbow parties in the streets proclaiming what kind of sexual desires you have.


Why not ban idiots like you who are scared of their own sexuality.
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:58 am

Motor Daddy wrote:
Peter Kropotkin wrote:..so, tell me,
why should I be afraid of or frightened by homosexuals or trans
people, as you are?

Kropotkin


When are you going to stop beating your wife?

You never claimed to beat your wife? Good, because I never claimed to be frightened by homosexuals or trans people!

You are scared shitless.

SO much is obvious.
Why can't you just mind your business and let other live their own lives they way they chose?
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:59 am

Mad Man P wrote:
Peter Kropotkin wrote:from a conservative viewpoint, it seems that
allowing diversity is a problem, so, how do we deal with
allowing people from diverse cultures to fit into America?
is diversity a solution, as liberals say or is diversity the problem,
as conservative say and why?

is achieving equality a solution as liberals say or is achieving
equality a problem, as conservatives say?


I'm really not well suited to defend American conservatives... but I don't have a problem criticising stupid ideas.
These binary yay or nay values that you propose are thoughtless and ultimately false dichotomies.
The only sane discussion to be had about diversity and equality is to what degree it's sustainable... only a fool is "for" or "against" either.

As neither equality nor diversity are functional if maximized or minimized, the question becomes a matter of degrees and moderation, where the functional goldilocks zone might be.


Why is it not just a problem of allowing people to live their own lives?
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Re: OK, liberals are wrong? what is the alternative?

Postby origami » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:12 pm

The thing is, my communist friend, it has become obvious that this

Sculptor wrote:Why is it not just a problem of allowing people to live their own lives?


Only applies when it suits your deranged political aims.

Sculptor wrote:There is a difference between allowing and promoting. It's just your false news that is telling that promotion is taking place.


Right! Well, and you know, the daily commercials on TV, the streets, in movies, news reporters, politicians...

We really don't take from this "huh, I wonder if that's true and it was all in my head."

We get "this guy either lives in a forest or lacks any vestige of decency."

Sculptor wrote: And once again, what are you so scared of?


Well, clearly, a dude in the women's bathrooms.

Sculptor wrote:Why not just end public space bathrooms?


Because that would be terribly inconvenient, all because some communist doesn't get his way.

Sculptor wrote:It's not up to you is it? Why do you want to impose your beliefs on others. Is this N Korea?


A 2 year old child is not "other people." It is an extremely sensitive and impressionable mind.

Sculptor wrote:What are you so scared of. Do not not believe in choice?
Sculptor wrote:And once again, what are you so scared of?
Sculptor wrote:who are scared of their own sexuality.


It doesn't sound at all like he's scared of anything. He is calmly expressing concern for the mental welfare of children who are being weaponized for the political causes of a lunatic leftist agenda.

Sculptor wrote:Is this N Korea?


No. North Korea is a communist dictatorship.


Sculptor wrote:Why can't you just mind your business and let other live their own lives they way they chose?


What is your opinion on government mandated school attendance?
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