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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:54 am

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Mr Reasonable wrote:aside from that, please tell me how one person committing a crime is a defense for another person committing a crime


So you agree that Hilary Clinton committed a crime by leaking servers full of classiffied documents, and went unmolested by the FBI?


no i don't and that's not what i said. don't dodge the question.

is someone else getting away with a crime a defense for the next defendant? yes or no.


Lol it is what you said.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:54 am

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origami wrote:5+ years of a different excuse every day to employ government agencies to persecute a man that most States want as their president.

How stupid do you think people are?



and there it is. "most states". fact is that most people do not, and never wanted his as president.


Yea, big city people are nuts, everybody knows this.

You don't like the electoral system, so you are just going to throw your opponent in jail?

Very nice.



if they commit crimes what are you supposed to do? just say well that's my opponent so i have to let them commit crimes?
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:55 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:it's so wild to me that on one hand it seems your biggest fear is a dictatorship, but on the other hand you argue that the guy who beliefs in unitary executive theory and who lost the popular vote should be able to flagrantly violate the law without consequence.


Trump did everything by the book, never violated a law.

You crazy cucks violate it every day.

Not everybody willingly blinds themselves like you fucking cult fanatics.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:55 am

origami wrote:Lol it is what you said.



still dodging. be honest with yourself if you aren't going to be honest with me. you either think some people are above the law or you don't. you either think that someone getting away with drunk driving is a defense for the next defendant or you don't
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:56 am

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if they commit crimes what are you supposed to do? just say well that's my opponent so i have to let them commit crimes?



Hahahahahahha no I guess you only let them commit crimes if they are on your side.

You think nobody notices the weaponization of federal institutions for political purposes?
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:56 am

origami wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:it's so wild to me that on one hand it seems your biggest fear is a dictatorship, but on the other hand you argue that the guy who beliefs in unitary executive theory and who lost the popular vote should be able to flagrantly violate the law without consequence.


Trump did everything by the book, never violated a law.

You crazy cucks violate it every day.

Not everybody willingly blinds themselves like you fucking cult fanatics.


you know this isn't true. his own lawyers have owned up to him removing those documents. it's not even in dispute at all.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:56 am

origami wrote:
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if they commit crimes what are you supposed to do? just say well that's my opponent so i have to let them commit crimes?



Hahahahahahha no I guess you only let them commit crimes if they are on your side.

You think nobody notices the weaponization of federal institutions for political purposes?



still dodging. is someone getting away with drunk driving a defense for the next defendant?
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:57 am

seems like you think trump should be above the law. do you not think that the united states should be a nation of laws? or should we all join a cult of personality and just let this one guy be above the law?
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:58 am

My point is this, Smears. Because we are insulting eachother's intelligences by pretending this isn't a political persecution.

The goal of this persecution is not public opinion gains. That is a loss from the outset. The goal is to legally prevent the opposition for gaining power.

If Trump was doing badly, if a Trump endorsement wasn't worth its weight in gold, nobody would be raiding anything.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:01 am

it has to be hard knowing deep down that the whole thing is crumbling right now. i've been watching them all rationalize and flail around on twitter with these same arguments. tomorrow they'll be saying the fbi planted evidence. right now the right is calling to defund the fbi. their messaging is all fucked up because they don't know what is happening or they can't comprehend it and they're afraid and rightfully so. he tried to subvert democracy here and he's still running around giving these rallies and telling the same lies. it isn't going to go well for him or his family. he doesn't know when to quit and he thinks he can't lose. but he's going to because that shit is anti democracy and anti american and people who truly give a shit about those ideals vastly outnumber the cultists who are falling for the conspiracies. take up arms if you have to, but it'll end badly.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:02 am

i know that you know he's full of shit and that you know how this is all going to go. maybe you'd rather see america with trump in charge, but that's not what america wants and what he wants america to be is not what america is and no matter how charming you think he is, he's not going to take over our country and subvert our ideals. he's going to spend the rest of his short ass life running.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:02 am

I won't deny that it's hard to see the possibility of the communist authoritarianism that has taken hold all over the third world taking hold in the US too. I have seen these tactics used and I know they work. I won't tell you it's a fun ride.

But the reason they work is not because it wins hearts and minds. It's because it criminalizes opposition.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:03 am

origami wrote:My point is this, Smears. Because we are insulting eachother's intelligences by pretending this isn't a political persecution.

The goal of this persecution is not public opinion gains. That is a loss from the outset. The goal is to legally prevent the opposition for gaining power.

If Trump was doing badly, if a Trump endorsement wasn't worth its weight in gold, nobody would be raiding anything.


the candidates he's been endorsing lately haven't been doing so well. keep watching. maybe 2 years ago but not now. americans are over his shit and now they all know what he really is
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:03 am

And I admire Trump deeply. Because he knew this was coming the moment you stole the elections. We all knew. But he chose to stay.

For that, he gets infinity points.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:04 am

origami wrote:I won't deny that it's hard to see the possibility of the communist authoritarianism that has taken hold all over the third world taking hold in the US too. I have seen these tactics used and I know they work. I won't tell you it's a fun ride.

But the reason they work is not because it wins hearts and minds. It's because it criminalizes opposition.


the opposition criminalizes itself when it flagrantly violates the law. manafort has now admitted to passing off that campaign data to kilimnik. it's all out there man.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:10 am

By the way, I still favour Trump to win.

I still think Trump 2024.

But whoever didn't expect kicking and screaming was in the wrong auditorium.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:11 am

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origami wrote:I won't deny that it's hard to see the possibility of the communist authoritarianism that has taken hold all over the third world taking hold in the US too. I have seen these tactics used and I know they work. I won't tell you it's a fun ride.

But the reason they work is not because it wins hearts and minds. It's because it criminalizes opposition.


the opposition criminalizes itself when it flagrantly violates the law. manafort has now admitted to passing off that campaign data to kilimnik. it's all out there man.


The opposition always criminalizes itself. This is the standard thing all dictatorial regimes say.

My favourite thing about you crazy commies is that you always think there is something new about what you do.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:39 am

You forgot to say "I'm not a communist."
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:50 am

you forgot to say that you think trump should be able to flagrantly violate the law
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:57 am

Are you a communist then?
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby origami » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:06 am

Hahahahaha where are you going?
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Sculptor » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:29 pm

origami wrote:Are you a communist then?


You are clueless about the meaning of the word.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:33 pm

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It appears the next step is the FBI planting something incriminating in the boxes of documents in order to frame Mr Trump. The FBI is known for false flag provocation schemes (e.g. Jan 6).

That is easy to guess because it is the same tactic they used during the 2020 election when they forbade any republicans from watching them count the votes as they stuffed the ballots.

During the FBI raid, Mr Trump's attorneys were not allowed to watch - it is easy to guess why (and I believe that to be illegal in the US although the socialists consider anything they want to do to be legal enough). So if anything comes from this raid it can be expected that Mr Trump's attorneys will be suing the FBI and DOJ. The intent of the raid - of course - is to cast doubt onto Mr Trump's eligibility to run for office long enough for someone else to be elected (as well as distraction from the extreme criminality of the global socialists in destroying the US) - typical socialist scam being carried out in the US - typical "banana republic" dictatorship (seems to suit the O'Biden administration mentality).
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:40 am

obsrvr524 wrote:-
It appears the next step is the FBI planting something incriminating in the boxes of documents in order to frame Mr Trump. The FBI is known for false flag provocation schemes (e.g. Jan 6).

That is easy to guess because it is the same tactic they used during the 2020 election when they forbade any republicans from watching them count the votes as they stuffed the ballots.

During the FBI raid, Mr Trump's attorneys were not allowed to watch - it is easy to guess why (and I believe that to be illegal in the US although the socialists consider anything they want to do to be legal enough). So if anything comes from this raid it can be expected that Mr Trump's attorneys will be suing the FBI and DOJ. The intent of the raid - of course - is to cast doubt onto Mr Trump's eligibility to run for office long enough for someone else to be elected (as well as distraction from the extreme criminality of the global socialists in destroying the US) - typical socialist scam being carried out in the US - typical "banana republic" dictatorship (seems to suit the O'Biden administration mentality).


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evidence.. not wild insane stories that wouldn't amuse a two year old..

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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:43 am

lol there's observr doing just what he was programmed to do. come right out with the "planted evidence" bit.
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