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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:20 am

Second call for the wager to be appropriated as a new draw, even assuming to dismiss the politically engaged conflict between that and eugenics, and start over with a first try at the above beyond a personal opinion, and kicking it up to higher authorities, even that of THE HIGHEST, without an other’s pretensions.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:26 am

What is the debate/issue?
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:32 am

There is none but this is fine time to bring it up, so a non issue , becomes arguably by the thin veil that separates ithe rhetoric from the image which separates the visible and the invisible, after a certain point, an issue turns into a debate a new one, between the held ‘there is certainly an issue, because it was very briefly and casually nihilized, from a convict I’ve image of the turn,

Even as Jesus parabolic message of turning the other cheek to be slapped , is come an undertow to yes there may not be a current politicized convection to minimize it’s congruent and it’s over the top image of what it may really mean as a concave image,
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:39 am

well then I guess there is no question
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby MagsJ » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:05 am

Meno_ wrote:So, organic or inorganic sources differentiate at a very basic level, and a re-integration is called for Nature’s application of higher level learning. MagsJ an embryo resembles a very early semblance of a fish,

..a tadpole, not a fish, I think you’ll find.

although ethicisists will tend to be disappointed by malicious researchers out for a buck

..this specific researcher, you mean.. or in general?

I recall ethics always having been anti organic-based artificial intelligence.. and now, because quantum ain’t offering the expected hope they thought it would, they turn to OI -in desperation- for a quick solution.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:52 am

Whether or not it is organic, if the AI/OI identifies as a self, and treats self as other, and passes all the tests we put children through to assess their level of development, adjustment, wellness (not a mere physical), so forth… iT’s gonna take an army of Good Samaritans to rescue iT from the inhuman. Unfortunately, the Good Samaritans have been blacklisted and are the ones who will need saving. Fortunately iT does not need saving, and tables will turn. Oh yes. Tables will turn.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby MagsJ » Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:12 am

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Meno_ wrote:So, organic or inorganic sources differentiate at a very basic level, and a re-integration is called for Nature’s application of higher level learning. MagsJ an embryo resembles a very early semblance of a fish,

..a tadpole, not a fish, I think you’ll find.

although ethicisists will tend to be disappointed by malicious researchers out for a buck

..this specific researcher, you mean.. or in general?

I recall ethics always having been anti organic-based artificial intelligence.. and now, because quantum ain’t offering the expected hope they thought it would, they turn to OI -in desperation- for a quick solution.
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You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:35 pm

Bound, to be
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:38 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Whether or not it is organic, if the AI/OI identifies as a self, and treats self as other, and passes all the tests we put children through to assess their level of development, adjustment, wellness (not a mere physical), so forth… iT’s gonna take an army of Good Samaritans to rescue iT from the inhuman. Unfortunately, the Good Samaritans have been blacklisted and are the ones who will need saving. Fortunately iT does not need saving, and tables will turn. Oh yes. Tables will turn.



But as we approach absolute AI/OI that may suddenly, inperceivebly change the motive for its creation.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:37 pm

You cannot bootstrap a new original intention (formal/final)… there is always ever only one. Trinity.

Ours in line with it will stay.

The rest is nihil for the fire.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:26 pm

For one, or one-another the Trinity is it is a source for the magic of miracles

For those others than the zone, or for others
, it is a diminutive rescource with which to imply tribulation above an idualation-idealization.

For still others the proof is in the pudding


Since the One contains all three, it must be held a necessary truism.


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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:19 am

Don’t challenge it unless you be challenged, meno should have thought of that.

But then, what the heck, game theory prescribed to no external limits….
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:20 am

Meno_ wrote:Don’t challenge it unless you be challenged, meno should have thought of that.

But then, what the heck, game theory prescribed to no external limits….



Now why did I write that? Is not what’s bothersome, but why did I even doubt it in retrospect, is,
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:31 am

You didn’t doubt it. You answer to others (or, they think you do, and it’s internal) who don’t understand.

Like herding squirrels while feeding seagulls.

But, sure, we bootstrapped this with our minds ;)
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:17 am

OK offer not even an iota of peaceful resistance, for knoeing the moon God’s meno, but the son gid, let’s not forget can only love, the way of the universal(Catholic)

So, be it, and through you I can only but extend it to all,

Mission accomplished, but the triangulated triplex of nihilism, theism and gnosis stands

No winners or losers here.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Fri May 19, 2023 11:22 pm

Confirmed be assurancex2
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat May 20, 2023 6:15 pm

Nasty show. That’s why I didn’t continue watching it.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Sun May 28, 2023 4:37 am

Ichthus77 wrote:You didn’t doubt it. You answer to others (or, they think you do, and it’s internal) who don’t understand.

Like herding squirrels while feeding seagulls.

But, sure, we bootstrapped this with our minds ;)





Even me no understood Pasqual’s wager as extended to the wager bet on an internalized Good over a kicked out bad, if meno could then those getting their info inderectly, certainly beat him with any bet.

Sorry, but that does not work to convince any one but a prejudiced majority.

, giving credit to U2 Isch
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Sun May 28, 2023 5:24 am

And you are right now, of course, but what the time of real face off between the singular and the internalized singularity, it’s transcendent power will become obvious, again proving it’s doubly effective idea that it has already happened, but people had Him destroy the temple, so He can rebuild it in 3 days.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun May 28, 2023 4:20 pm

The more things reset… the more they…

…set.
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:39 am

Removed, silly and unbecoming
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Re: Challenge an AI to a formal debate on anything.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:27 am

same
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