Motor Daddy wrote:Our base 10 world's 33.333...% is equivalent to their base 9 world's .3. They are both 33.333...% of a whole.
Neither \(\frac{1}{3}\) nor \(0.3_9\) is equal to \(33.333\dotso \%\).
We're still waiting for you to prove that.
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Motor Daddy wrote:Our base 10 world's 33.333...% is equivalent to their base 9 world's .3. They are both 33.333...% of a whole.
Magnus Anderson wrote:Motor Daddy wrote:Our base 10 world's 33.333...% is equivalent to their base 9 world's .3. They are both 33.333...% of a whole.
Neither \(\frac{1}{3}\) nor \(0.3_9\) is equal to \(33.333\dotso \%\).
We're still waiting for you to prove that.
Motor Daddy wrote:Wrong. What you are writing and saying when you write 13 is 1 in the Tens decimal place, and 3 in the Ones decimal place. There is no "times" or multiplication, there is the number 3 in the Ones decimal position.
It's not 3 times 1 added to 1 times 10. It is a 1 in the Tens, and a 3 in the Ones.
Magnus Anderson wrote:Motor Daddy wrote:Wrong. What you are writing and saying when you write 13 is 1 in the Tens decimal place, and 3 in the Ones decimal place. There is no "times" or multiplication, there is the number 3 in the Ones decimal position.
It's not 3 times 1 added to 1 times 10. It is a 1 in the Tens, and a 3 in the Ones.
\(13\) is merely a shorthand for \(1 \times 10^1 + 3 \times 10^0\). So yes, there is multiplication (as well as addition.)
You're confusing the symbol its (the string of numerals) with what that symbol stands for.
Flannel Jesus wrote:The "percent" format is literally just the base 10 decimal format, times 100, with a % symbol smacked after it. It didn't add anything new to the conversation that wasn't already covered by decimal representation.
Flannel Jesus wrote:The percent thing is an entire red herring. For most of the conversation, things were represented in decimal form, or in fraction form. 1/3 or 0.333... Bringing in "percents" like it's some sort of new, unused and unbiased format is... not correct.
The "percent" format is literally just the base 10 decimal format, times 100, with a % symbol smacked after it. It didn't add anything new to the conversation that wasn't already covered by decimal representation.
Motor Daddy wrote:What is a "10" ? There is no number 10, that is a 1 in the Tens and a 0 in the Ones. Just because you drop the decimal point and lose the 0's doesn't mean it's not decimal form.
Motor Daddy wrote:Flannel Jesus wrote:The percent thing is an entire red herring. For most of the conversation, things were represented in decimal form, or in fraction form. 1/3 or 0.333... Bringing in "percents" like it's some sort of new, unused and unbiased format is... not correct.
The "percent" format is literally just the base 10 decimal format, times 100, with a % symbol smacked after it. It didn't add anything new to the conversation that wasn't already covered by decimal representation.
.3 Means "3 Tenths" 3/10
.33 Means "33 Hundredths" 33/100
.333 Means "333 Thousandths" 333/1,000
Percent is how many "Hundredths".
.3339 means 33.39/100 or 33.39%
Magnus Anderson wrote:Motor Daddy wrote:What is a "10" ? There is no number 10, that is a 1 in the Tens and a 0 in the Ones. Just because you drop the decimal point and lose the 0's doesn't mean it's not decimal form.
\(10\) is a shorter version of \(1 \times x^1 + 0 \times x^0\) where \(x\) stands for the number of fingers on your hands.
The fact there is no digit representing that number in base 10 is completely and utterly irrelevant.
1/3 = .333... or 33.333...%
Motor Daddy wrote:That is the long version of the decimal 10.
There is no math in the representation 10. It is a 1 in the Tens. That's it.
Magnus Anderson wrote:1/3 = .333... or 33.333...%
Not tru.
Magnus Anderson wrote:
Then you don't understand what decimal expressions are.
Flannel Jesus wrote:Magnus Anderson wrote:1/3 = .333... or 33.333...%
Not tru.
You'll move the conversation along faster if you just decide to be upfront about why it's not true, what sort of thing is true instead, instead of waiting for someone to ask you.
Ecmandu wrote:This funny trying to explain bases.
Dude, motor, we’re all in teaching mode right now.
There’s so much more to math than bases.
You are being hard headed on this.
Motor Head wrote:The numbers are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
That's it! The rest is all decimal form.
Magnus Anderson wrote:Motor Head wrote:The numbers are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
That's it! The rest is all decimal form.
Pointless repetition.
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