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TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:20 am

If the experiences from different moments in different person’s/people’s lives got whipped up together like scrambled eggs before cooking…in other words, they traded minds…it would require the activity of a person who is at (or before/beyond) every point that gets blended. The blending together of experience requires a very intimate/immediate (immanent) experiencer that is also transcendent. Don’t ask me how I know religion & science play nicely in the sandbox if done correctly.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:26 am

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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:04 pm

If you exist at every moment, can you cross two moments together if you are woven into (limited) each moment? No. You must also be free/transcendent in order to blend.

You have to exist before the whole began, AND you have to exist at every point in time/space… in order to blend points/experiences. Some say “events” — they are experiences. God is personal - the Super Subject.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:04 pm

Now reread all I wrote about perfect subsuming permissive.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:07 pm

It makes free will - and its misuse - possible. Greater things are possible in alignment with the Maximally Great Being.

All will be reconciled.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:12 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:It makes free will - and its misuse - possible. Greater things are possible in alignment with the Maximally Great Being.

All will be reconciled.


It’s very easy for this category of being to make the abuse of freewill possible without actually harming anyone ever.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:48 pm

Be careful what you wish for. Action always starts in the mind. Thought is just action before it’s outside.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:48 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. Action always starts in the mind. Thought is just action before it’s outside.


God is the grand consent violator of everything if god exists.

Don’t threaten me child if evil is all you want. It goes both ways.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:26 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. Action always starts in the mind. Thought is just action before it’s outside.


God is the grand consent violator of everything if god exists.

Don’t threaten me child if evil is all you want. It goes both ways.


If you want everyone’s consent to be violated, I will always beat you.

If you want to be sent to actual hell: we can make that happen.

If that’s what you wish upon all of us forever.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:20 am

God gives/gave us free will so that we could give consent (love). Why do you think otherwise? He nor I want evil or hell for anyone, but he can’t (nobody can) force us to choose good or heaven.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:59 am

Ichthus77 wrote:God gives/gave us free will so that we could give consent (love). Why do you think otherwise? He nor I want evil or hell for anyone, but he can’t (nobody can) force us to choose good or heaven.


Oh man.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Hell for EVERY possible being is defined (Definitionally) as where you don’t want to be.

Every possible being has an, “I don’t want to be here, I don’t want this to occur”

Nobody chooses hell. By definition.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:23 am

You don’t choose God to avoid hell. You choose God because you want what’s true, good, and beautiful. Hell is everything else you settle for if you don’t want any of that other stuff. It starts here.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:12 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:You don’t choose God to avoid hell. You choose God because you want what’s true, good, and beautiful. Hell is everything else you settle for if you don’t want any of that other stuff. It starts here.


You want to know what love and truth is?

Nobody wants the consent violation/sacrifice narrative.

It’s a mass psychosis.

Your ‘god’ is not to people’s taste.

You are brainwashed because you lack imagination.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:26 pm

Jesus’ sacrifice, and our living sacrifice, does not violate consent.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:31 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Jesus’ sacrifice, and our living sacrifice, does not violate consent.


What exactly is our living sacrifice? Suffering forever?

For what?

Even if you don’t think your personal consent is being violated now or at some point in this type of reality...

But someone else’s is... that makes you a sadistic non empath.

Who the fuck are you to tell anyone what consent violation is for them?

The arrogance and evil you preach is astounding.

I’d definitely call you nazieque.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:36 pm

I had to guess because every time I ask you you don’t define it. So set me straight. How do you define consent violation?
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:40 pm

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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:44 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:I had to guess because every time I ask you you don’t define it. So set me straight. How do you define consent violation?


I’ve told you three times already.

It’s when something happens/is happening that the ultimate freedom is to say, “I don’t want this”

So think about all the infinite consent structures in existence... all unique.

Do something with your life like I do and solve all of them simultaneously....

Maybe you’re just not cut out for this line of work.

You take a dictators path.

My imagination goes beyond yours.

Imagine this...

Nobody wanted the crucification narrative.

Nobody wants a sacrifice narrative.

They just want their dreams to come true at nobdies expense (including their own)
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:29 pm

Nobody wanted this but it’s the only choice they have because there ain’t nothing we’re going to do to earn God’s love. It is what it is …you either choose it or you don’t. He isn’t the hero we deserve but …something something something.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:43 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Nobody wanted this but it’s the only choice they have because there ain’t nothing we’re going to do to earn God’s love. It is what it is …you either choose it or you don’t. He isn’t the hero we deserve but …something something something.


I’ll debate god.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:46 pm

You would be in good company with Job, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Gideon, David, Solomon, Elijah, Paul…me. Gonna lose. ;)
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:56 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:You would be in good company with Job, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Gideon, David, Solomon, Elijah, Paul…me. Gonna lose. ;)


Not this time man. Not this time. I’ve been trained by everyone.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:06 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:You would be in good company with Job, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Gideon, David, Solomon, Elijah, Paul…me. Gonna lose. ;)


Not this time man. Not this time. I’ve been trained by everyone.


The stakes of the debate are very simple.

If god loses, god has to grant everyone’s desires forever. Since there’s no being immune to hell...

They will all collectively agree that giving everyone their desires shall hurt nobody.

I’ve already won the debate.

The art of war... don’t take on an enemy unless you know you can defeat them.

I know what’s possible.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:09 pm

He agrees to wipe away every tear from our eyes, and make us warriors whose mission it is to inform folks they are loved no matter how far they’ve fallen. Do you accept his terms?
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:10 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:He agrees to wipe away every tear from our eyes, and make us warriors whose mission it is to inform folks they are loved no matter how far they’ve fallen. Do you accept his terms?


No.
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