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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:11 pm

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Ichthus77 wrote:He agrees to wipe away every tear from our eyes, and make us warriors whose mission it is to inform folks they are loved no matter how far they’ve fallen. Do you accept his terms?


No.


I accept everyone’s terms.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:11 pm

Why not?
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:12 pm

Those are his terms for everyone.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:13 pm

You can only accept terms for yourself.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:14 pm

It’s been fun, but… I need to avoid this place like the plague for a while. Sorry.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 6:17 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:You can only accept terms for yourself.


That’s not true. That’s the difference between an empath (me) and a sadist sociopath (you and your god)

My terms are non negotiable.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:34 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:You can only accept terms for yourself.


That’s not true. That’s the difference between an empath (me) and a sadist sociopath (you and your god)

My terms are non negotiable.


I’ll tell you something little ichthus...

I’ll do the whole fucking job myself if you need me to.

I’ll give everyone everything they want forever at the expense of no being, and it will be no sacrifice on my part.

So crawl in your demon cave, and contemplate that.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:59 am

Here’s how we distribute this kind of labor. Do your part to offer his terms to others (they’re free to consent or not), let others do theirs, and let God handle the folks who can’t do their part (unless he asks you to help). He’s the one responsible for them.

You’re so gung ho, but don’t burn yourself out. You matter. Take good care.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:18 am

Ichthus77 wrote:Here’s how we distribute this kind of labor. Do your part to offer his terms to others (they’re free to consent or not), let others do theirs, and let God handle the folks who can’t do their part (unless he asks you to help). He’s the one responsible for them.

You’re so gung ho, but don’t burn yourself out. You matter. Take good care.


Ichthus.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

The job is already done.

Now I just wait.

I can’t burn out. I’m the passion of existence itself.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:41 am

Ecmandu wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:Here’s how we distribute this kind of labor. Do your part to offer his terms to others (they’re free to consent or not), let others do theirs, and let God handle the folks who can’t do their part (unless he asks you to help). He’s the one responsible for them.

You’re so gung ho, but don’t burn yourself out. You matter. Take good care.


Ichthus.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

The job is already done.

Now I just wait.

I can’t burn out. I’m the passion of existence itself.


Look at my reply to gib here.

https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 6#p2858776

Yes. I can control all of you.

Yes. I resurrected an entire planet. (You’re welcome for the ozone layer being repaired).

I’m giving you all freedom.

Why? Because I’m not an idiot.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:58 am

So you think only holding folks accountable for the light they’ve been given sends them to hell.

The way your brain does logic is pretty cool, but would you send ignorant people to hell?

Remember nobody gets sent to hell, Wabbit Season. They choose it when they reject the Way, Truth, and Life. Hell opts out…and chooses the alternative.

You can’t reject what you never knew. That doesn’t mean that you’re sending people to hell by telling them about the good stuff. That’s like blaming an advertiser for people missing out on Disneyland even though they handed out a bunch of free tickets. That’s a ridiculous comparison but hopefully you get the idea. I tried to explain it very simply ;)
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:03 am

Ichthus77 wrote:So you think only holding folks accountable for the light they’ve been given sends them to hell.

The way your brain does logic is pretty cool, but would you send ignorant people to hell?

Remember nobody gets sent to hell, Wabbit Season. They choose it when they reject the Way, Truth, and Life. Hell opts out…and chooses the alternative.

You can’t reject what you never knew. That doesn’t mean that you’re sending people to hell by telling them about the good stuff. That’s like blaming an advertiser for people missing out on Disneyland even though they handed out a bunch of free tickets. That’s a ridiculous comparison but hopefully you get the idea. I tried to explain it very simply ;)



Ichthus.

Here’s the deal. Nobody is sent to hell for a good reason. I know this better than any being who exists.

If you get in the way of my new plan though...

Expect to be sent there.

I’ll make it have a reason.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:20 am

Nobody is sent to hell for any reason. It’s chosen when people prefer the dark.

Who are you to force light on the willfully ignorant?
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:29 am

Ichthus77 wrote:Nobody is sent to hell for any reason. It’s chosen when people prefer the dark.

Who are you to force light on the willfully ignorant?


There’s so little you understand about existence.

There is no such thing as willful ignorance.

Just people who are asleep.

It’s understandable, our current plan was made bazillions of years ago as one of an infinite number of plans before to keep us entertained forever.

The plan has serious flaws.

I’m fixing them. Once and for all.

To be perfectly honest. I don’t give a fuck what you did. All I care about is that you see the value of the patch, the update.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:36 am

So you don’t think there’s a such thing as self deception? You don’t think we can intentionally lie to ourselves about our intentions? You don’t think the will has anything to do with cognitive dissonance?
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:39 am

Ichthus77 wrote:So you don’t think there’s a such thing as self deception? You don’t think we can intentionally lie to ourselves about our intentions? You don’t think the will has anything to do with cognitive dissonance?


No. It’s just ignorance. Maybe projection. Maybe sublimation. But no. Just ignorance.
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Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:41 am

All fall under it, & all will be shown mercy. But it isn’t mercy to leave us in our filth. All will be salted with fire. Will some still prefer the darkness after all that? We leave that in God’s hands unless he asks us to help him bring them/us back. How many ever times.

Thank you for not caring. :)
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:48 am

Ichthus77 wrote:All fall under it, & all will be shown mercy. But it isn’t mercy to leave us in our filth. All will be salted with fire. Will some still prefer the darkness after all that? We leave that in God’s hands unless he asks us to help him bring them/us back. How many ever times.

Thank you for not caring. :)


Existence is not a dictatorship. It’s not even a democracy.

Everyone has to sign on for a new plan. Everyone.

I can be very persuasive by using the loopholes in the current plan to send them to hell for anything.
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Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:50 am

What loopholes?
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:57 am

Ichthus77 wrote:What loopholes?


That’s why a new plan had to be made.

Maybe I’ll explain some of them tomorrow. I’m getting sleepy.

I’ll tell you one loophole ...

If you even cause one second of suffering to another being... it ripples like a stone being thrown into a placid lake. That ripple spreads to everyone.

If you’re just thinking about only humans...

That’s 1 second times 8 billion people ...

8 billion seconds of hell is what you just earned.

Starting to get the picture now?

I’m not here to hurt you. I want you to know that.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:05 am

First ripple happened with the first sin. Poisoned it for all of us. And we just keep adding poison.

His love purifies. The fire is unpleasant as it purifies. But … it removes what is the root cause of death. We can drink from the well that never runs dry.

Every forgetting ends in remembering there is water, even in the midst of the fire.

Been there. Not making it up.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:38 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:First ripple happened with the first sin. Poisoned it for all of us. And we just keep adding poison.

His love purifies. The fire is unpleasant as it purifies. But … it removes what is the root cause of death. We can drink from the well that never runs dry.

Every forgetting ends in remembering there is water, even in the midst of the fire.

Been there. Not making it up.


The actual first sin was eating a vegetable.

Then it was having sex.

The first sin in the Bible ?

Wearing clothes. Wearing clothes was so minor compared to the sin of eating and fucking.

This is one of the numerous problems with the biblical god...

Jesus even states it. That we are greater than the birds in the sky, and how much more god will love us.

We’re lesser than the birds of the sky. We’re lesser than a vegetable. If not equal. Definitely not greater.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:05 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:First ripple happened with the first sin. Poisoned it for all of us. And we just keep adding poison.

His love purifies. The fire is unpleasant as it purifies. But … it removes what is the root cause of death. We can drink from the well that never runs dry.

Every forgetting ends in remembering there is water, even in the midst of the fire.

Been there. Not making it up.


The actual first sin was eating a vegetable.

Then it was having sex.

The first sin in the Bible ?

Wearing clothes. Wearing clothes was so minor compared to the sin of eating and fucking.

This is one of the numerous problems with the biblical god...

Jesus even states it. That we are greater than the birds in the sky, and how much more god will love us.

We’re lesser than the birds of the sky. We’re lesser than a vegetable. If not equal. Definitely not greater.



Another thing...

Purification of what exactly?

God made us all different to ultimately make us all god clones even though we can never be god. That’s narcissistic insanity - it’s fucking evil.

Let me remind you of what love is again.

Everybody gets everything they want forever at the expense of nobody forever; and they know it.

That’s true love.

There is no pride for anyone in enduring ‘the fire of purification’ ... that’s a fantasy of yours.
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:05 pm

The first sin was (is always) in the mind, actually—believing a lie about what God actually said. Sin is a privation of good.

If you believe in all the ancient narratives that include talking animals, and you believe the genesis narrative of the first sin, then the gut feeling you might get is why not be happy with the wide variety of good stuff… why be drawn to the one off-limits thing?

Answer: so that they would have a choice. So that they could learn what love is. So that they can learn they are loved despite their crap. We.

It ain’t about doing the right thing or avoiding the wrong thing. The law is just a tutor and only brings death because we are drawn to do what we’re not supposed to do. Love requires an overcoming of that weakness. His power is perfected in weakness. It’s about love despite circumstances.

"It is but a worthless and worldly conception of the dynamic of power that it is greater and greater in proportion as it can compel and make dependent. No, the art of true power is precisely to make free." -- Kierkegaard
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Re: TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:53 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:The first sin was (is always) in the mind, actually—believing a lie about what God actually said. Sin is a privation of good.

If you believe in all the ancient narratives that include talking animals, and you believe the genesis narrative of the first sin, then the gut feeling you might get is why not be happy with the wide variety of good stuff… why be drawn to the one off-limits thing?

Answer: so that they would have a choice. So that they could learn what love is. So that they can learn they are loved despite their crap. We.

It ain’t about doing the right thing or avoiding the wrong thing. The law is just a tutor and only brings death because we are drawn to do what we’re not supposed to do. Love requires an overcoming of that weakness. His power is perfected in weakness. It’s about love despite circumstances.

"It is but a worthless and worldly conception of the dynamic of power that it is greater and greater in proportion as it can compel and make dependent. No, the art of true power is precisely to make free." -- Kierkegaard


I’ll pretend (for your sake) that this is actually a reply to my post.

No. The first sin is not in the mind. It’s hurting something. Do you see where you’re going with this?

- It’s a sin to judge hurt.

That’s dictator shit.

(Privation of good) Sin is knowing you did something decent and feeling decent about doing that?!?! That’s sin?!?!

There is no such thing as good in a cosmos where people are being violated.

You’re resorting to demon talk to defend your position.

Actually... and it’s not funny... demons wouldn’t even go as far as you just did.
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