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Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:08 am

Wherever and whenever you/we go, there and then you/we are here and now.

When you/we do something right then and there … you/we do it right here and now.

But the moment passes into memory. Future moment becomes now.

The matter of our body passed, replaced by the matter of future body…our mind rides the wave to stay in here/now.

How is it wrong?
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:44 am

Either past/future are empty of matter, and here/now slice is all that exists (no matter moves out or in from/to here/now slice - here/now slice is the only material thing), or past/future are as full of matter as here/now (requires here/now slice to be consciousness(es) inhabiting slices chronologically and communally…

If the latter, since we don’t inhabit here/now chronologically & communally on purpose (not even if we’re here by choice because we reject suicide missions, etc), what/Who causes us to time surf? Same one who allows information exchange between moments (and our contributions within moments).

If the former, all information exchange between moments (all change, period…action-reaction, our contributions, etc) is a purely mental (not at all physical) act/program in God’s mind.

Either way, the plan/idea/program (creation) was complete (from beginning to end) in God’s mind before it kicked off.

logical structure to thought (thinking)/being/loving -

Logic isn’t just the structure/architecture/scaffolding of thought, but of being (leave chaos aside for now). Hence geodesics & lensing. Hence the way the fractal appears in the actual.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:56 pm

https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=197753

If the experiences of 2+ minds (or 2+ moments of one mind) can be blended in 2+ different moments outside here/now, it requires an experiencer (an experienced blender) above those moments—moreso if the only matter-full moment is here/now.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:33 pm

Just like a point in space has no dimensions, a point in time (now) has no duration.

There is only motion, which is distance and time. Motion has no point in time, it is a duration of time. A duration of time can be the duration of 1 second, 1 minute, 1 year, 1 millenia, etc, but a duration of time is not "now."

You mention "then and there" which is the past, and "here and now" which is always changing. Time is elapsing, so "here and now" is not a point in time, and it certainly is not the same as "then and there."

Time elapsed between "then and there" and "here and now" and the point in time you claim to be "here and now" is already in the past.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:12 pm

Smallest point (actual) is planck size. T/F

A point in time is not planck size. It is a slice of the whole (all the points)…whether that slice is actual or virtual/mental (in God’s mind).

Motion/change is (in a sense) an illusion from the perspective of the complete/perfect (God’s omnipresent/immanent omniscience/transcendence).

You say then/there is past. No. It could be future. But, - if you’re IN it - it is your now. If that is possible, God has to make it happen as part of the original plan before anything kicks off.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:28 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=197753

If the experiences of 2+ minds (or 2+ moments of one mind) can be blended in 2+ different moments outside here/now, it requires an experiencer (an experienced blender) above those moments—moreso if the only matter-full moment is here/now.


Entanglement is only confusing if you think distance matters when mind is everywhere.

There are people who try to say that it is our minds that determine reality, when (in actuality) we are cocreators with the Super Subject—we are not moving ourselves from moment to moment… the super subject existed/exists before/beyond we … this whole thing … even kicked off.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:14 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Smallest point (actual) is planck size. T/F


Wrong. A point has no size.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:24 pm

There are no actual sizeless points. Just as there are no actual fractals. A point in actual is planck size. Ref: fractals in actual.

Please read my last reply to you as I edited more into it.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:24 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:A point in time is not planck size. It is a slice of the whole (all the points)…whether that slice is actual or virtual/mental (in God’s mind).


A point in time is not a slice of the whole. A point in time has no duration. A point in time is saying "7:02 PM" which is not a duration like 1 second is. It is not a slice of 1 second, possibly .1 second, it is a POINT IN TIME, which has ZERO duration.

You seem to think of a point in time being a slice of time, like you would think of a slice of pie. That is not the case, a point in time has no size like a slice of pie has a size.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:25 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:There are no actual sizeless points. Just as there are no actual fractals. A point in actual is planck size. Ref: fractals in actual.

Please read my last reply to you as I edited more into it.


A point in time is 8:02 AM. How much duration is that?
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby derleydoo » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:35 pm

You're welcome
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:44 pm

Ah, but by the time the hand reaches now, it is already then.

The watch is inaccurate.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby derleydoo » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:49 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
The watch is inaccurate.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:55 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Ah, but by the time the hand reaches now, it is already then.

The watch is inaccurate.


A watch that keeps time, and ticks at the rate of 1 second per second, as compared to a standard second, keeps perfect time. It is EXACTLY 1 Hour of time between 8:00PM and 9:00 PM. It is 1 hour of duration between those two points in time. A duration of time has a starting point and an ending point. If you set an alarm clock to ring at a point in time of 10:00 AM, it will start ringing when the clock strikes the point in time that is 10:00 AM. If you shut it off at 10:01 AM it rang for the duration of 1 minute.

The clock is not the problem, it is the person's perception of the clock that is the problem. I blame Einstein!
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:16 pm

I never said a slice of time has duration. I think calling it a point is misleading.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:22 pm

Imagine a planck slice. Not gonna make a watch like that.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:41 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:I never said a slice of time has duration. I think calling it a point is misleading.


10:00 AM is not a slice of time, or a planck time. 10:00 AM is a POINT in time. Do you not know what a point is? Hint: It's not a duration, or a size, or a planck. A point in time has ZERO duration, like a point in space has ZERO size.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:45 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Imagine a planck slice. Not gonna make a watch like that.


A planck slice?? What's that, a portion of pie that's greater than zero?
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:48 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:I never said a slice of time has duration. I think calling it a point is misleading.


10:00 AM is not a slice of time, or a planck time. 10:00 AM is a POINT in time. Do you not know what a point is? Hint: It's not a duration, or a size, or a planck. A point in time has ZERO duration, like a point in space has ZERO size.


I said there is no such thing as a point (infinitely small - sizeless) in space. The smallest is planck size.

And I said that a slice of time has no duration.

Something tells me you’re not gonna understand me still.
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:49 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:Imagine a planck slice. Not gonna make a watch like that.


A planck slice?? What's that, a portion of pie that's greater than zero?


lol ok b-bye now
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:55 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:
Motor Daddy wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:Imagine a planck slice. Not gonna make a watch like that.


A planck slice?? What's that, a portion of pie that's greater than zero?


lol ok b-bye now


That's a typical reaction from an Einstein ass kisser, that when questioned about his BS they have no answer to the nonsense, because it's nonsense.

Learn what time is and we can continue the conversation. In the meantime I suggest stop spreading BS!
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:59 pm

I gave Einstein and the alternative. So. Whatevs. ;)
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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Motor Daddy » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:09 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:I gave Einstein and the alternative. So. Whatevs. ;)

You basically claimed there is no such thing as zero, that planck is the smallest. Here's a hint, whatever size you claim planck to be that's greater than zero, take that number and divide by 2, then take that answer and divide by 2, and keep doing that infinitely and you will never reach an answer of zero, hence the infinitely dividing by 2.

A point is ZERO, and 10:00 AM is a ZERO duration of time. It is a POINT in time! It is NOT a planck slice, or whatever the heck you were on about.
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Re: Time Surfing

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Re: Time Surfing

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:53 am

Watch video at link. Then: Can’t C theory (one alternative I’m proposing) make B theory (that’d be Einstein’s) an idea in God’s mind, and A theory is how God actualizes each moment?

You’re probably not understanding me first pass. That’s okay.

How else is God going to know us before creation? The plan begins complete…and the other stuff I already said.

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