Consent Decrees

[Ichthus77]

Like using aborted baby parts and manufacturing superbugs that resist vaccines for virtual/simulated viruses?

Yeah. You’re totally right. We’ve lost our freaking minds.

[Mr Reasonable]

my job for a few years was that i worked with a group that taught research integrity to researchers and ive gotta tell you that thats about the time that i realized most people were completely fucking hopeless when it comes to being able to discern between what is real and what isnt with regard to performing or interpreting a study in a research setting. for a long time i would try really hard to get people to understand why the things they thought were giving them the real facts were inconclusive, skewed, flawed, or just downright garbled nonsense but then i finally was able to just let that go because the truth is that the vast majority of people are not capable of understanding what it is that they are even looking at and just want a study to wave around and to appeal to its authority. but for real those studies are most often done by a bunch of legit idiots in some random university department and the majority of them lose funding just as fast as they got it because let's be real, "acid flashbacks" like the ones people think of when they talk about "acid flashbacks" just aren't real.

[Mr Reasonable]

Like using aborted baby parts and manufacturing superbugs that resist vaccines for virtual/simulated viruses?

Yeah. You’re totally right. We’ve lost our freaking minds.

you against stem cell research?

[Mr Reasonable]

do you think that people should carry a pregnancy to term and give birth to a child that they know will have down's syndrome? if so, who should bear the cost?

[Ichthus77]

We don’t need stem cells from aborted babies. There are alternatives. Re: Down’s… yes, I do think those babies should be born. Also, I can’t tell you how many stories I’ve heard of doctors claiming something was wrong with a baby, recommending abortion, but the baby was born healthy. Similar junk with other fake diagnoses on adults, fake dental work, etc. You don’t trust cops? I wanna die without some quack misdiagnosing me for the money.

How are you going to support the claim “there are no flashbacks”?

[Ichthus77]

For every child aborted, 11 are waiting to adopt… they’ll pay the costs.

[Mr Reasonable]

your own screenshot says that "flashbacks" are momentary. that's not what most people think of when they think of a flashback.

who should bear the cost of the person with down's syndrome? they require a lot of care that regular people don't, and they are almost never able to be a net positive contributor to an economy.

[Mr Reasonable]

For every child aborted, 11 are waiting to adopt… they’ll pay the costs.

are you sure this is true? and who are these people? should a gay couple be allowed to adopt children? should a woman be able to sell her newly born child? if so many people want them, shouldn't it be the case that the free market prevail and that the child go to the highest bidder?

[Ichthus77]

For every child aborted, 11 are waiting to adopt… they’ll pay the costs.

I have a friend w a Down’s kid. They always smile. Work in an ice cream shop.

Also … didn’t you watch Life Goes On? Adorbs.

We gotta be pro life. Death is ugly.

Answered cost question above.

[Mr Reasonable]

can they support themselves working in an ice cream shop?

[Mr Reasonable]

im sorry but i'm a little suspicious of people who are out trying to shop for a stranger's baby. that's next level weird shit and i think it's very odd.

[Mr Reasonable]

Death is ugly.

everything dies.

[Ichthus77]

For every child aborted, 11 are waiting to adopt… they’ll pay the costs.

are you sure this is true? and who are these people? should a gay couple be allowed to adopt children? should a woman be able to sell her newly born child? if so many people want them, shouldn't it be the case that the free market prevail and that the child go to the highest bidder?

As long as the family can support a child, money should not enter the picture.

It should be about stuff like clean criminal record, good values, etc. Seriously… a parenting license should be mandatory before a baby is released from hospital, in my opinion. Any baby.

If abortion was harder, and minors’ babies were DNA tested to hold pedophiles accountable, … man, just a bunch of stuff needs to change because we’re meh about life and keeping kids safe. It’s freaking sad.

[Ichthus77]

can they support themselves working in an ice cream shop?

This is California. Many youngns never move out or have a bunch of roommates.

[Ichthus77]

Death is ugly.

everything dies.

wull that’s the spirit mr. r.

[Mr Reasonable]

good values

according to who?

[Mr Reasonable]

Death is ugly.

everything dies.

wull that’s the spirit mr. r.

it's true though. the things that humanity has done in the name of not accepting the inevitability of death...when you really think about it...i dont even know what to say.

[Ichthus77]

good values

according to who?

People who treat the other as self.

[Mr Reasonable]

seems dangerously vague

[Ichthus77]

Death is ugly.

everything dies.

it's true though. the things that humanity has done in the name of not accepting the inevitability of death...when you really think about it...i dont even know what to say.

Let’s explore this. What do you value that is not valued by those who believe life matters & is not finally negated by the ugliness of death?

[Ichthus77]

seems dangerously vague

Versatile. Gotta pivot, negotiate.

[Mr Reasonable]

Death is ugly.

everything dies.

it's true though. the things that humanity has done in the name of not accepting the inevitability of death...when you really think about it...i dont even know what to say.

Let’s explore this. What do you value that is not valued by those who believe life matters & is not finally negated by the ugliness of death?

what?

[Mr Reasonable]

seems dangerously vague

Versatile. Gotta pivot, negotiate.

this comes off as something that would be useful for exerting control over others. be vague, pivot, and use whatever power you can to exert your will over them.

[Ichthus77]

It acknowledges the negotiating power in each individual/group. Self=other applies to individuals. Us=them applies to groups of individuals. You have to have both fully functional, per Ec’s rainbow rule.

[Ichthus77]

it's true though. the things that humanity has done in the name of not accepting the inevitability of death...when you really think about it...i dont even know what to say.

Let’s explore this. What do you value that is not valued by those who believe life matters & is not finally negated by the ugliness of death?

what?[/quote]

There are two groups of people with values.

The first group believes death is inevitable, so they value this life until it is negated by death.

The second group believes death is a transition, so they value life that will never be negated.

Where do they fail to value the same thing(s) in life?