Trump enters the stage

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Re: Trump enters the stage - revamping politics

Postby Meno_ » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:52 am

'Grievance tour' or 2024 preview? Donald Trump to hold campaign-style rally in Ohio on Saturday

Former US President Donald Trump on Saturday pushed Republicans to support those candidates who share his values in next year's midterm elections as he launched a new more active phase of his post presidency.

Former President Donald Trump heads to Ohio on Saturday for his first campaign-style rally since leaving the White House, an event that could signal how engaged he will be in next year’s congressional elections and possibly offer clues about whether he plans another presidential bid in 2024.

Trump’s event at the Lorain County Fairgrounds in Wellington, about a half-hour southwest of Cleveland, will mark his return to the kind of mass rallies that fueled his White House campaigns. Since he left office in January, Trump’s public appearances have been limited to a handful of speeches before conservative and Republican groups.

Banned from Twitter, Facebook and other social media platforms that he used to communicate with his supporters, Trump seems eager to get back on stage.

“Big crowds in the Great State of Ohio this weekend for the Trump rally,” Trump predicted in a statement issued by a political action committee called the Save America PAC.

“See you on Saturday night,” he said. “MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AGAIN!”

Former President Donald Trump will travel to Lorain County, Ohio, on Saturday for his first campaign-style rally since leaving office.
Save America said Trump’s Ohio rally will be the first of many appearances in support of candidates and causes that further his agenda and the accomplishments of his administration. A second rally already is planned for July 3 in Sarasota, Florida.

Political analysts said the events will give Trump a platform to reassert himself as the leader of the Republican Party, promote his conspiracy theories about last November’s election – and just as important to Trump and his bruised ego – settle old scores.

“This is just the kickoff of the Donald Trump grievance tour,” said David Cohen, a political science professor at the University of Akron.

Trump lost the presidency to Joe Biden last November, but he carried Ohio by eight percentage points. Saturday’s rally will be his first trip back to the Buckeye State since the election.

Political scientist Justin Buchler sees no particular relevance to the fact that Trump’s first post-election rally will be in Ohio, which is historically a swing state in presidential elections.

What’s more important, at least to Trump, is that he will be in Lorain County, which he won by three percentage points last November and where he is likely to be surrounded by people who are loyal to him.

“He is not campaigning outside of his comfort zone,” said Buchler, an associate professor of political science at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. “He’s not going to areas where he’s going to be surrounded by a hostile crowd. He is going to go to places where he can be surrounded by people who are his devoted followers.”

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Supporters began arriving at the Lorain County Fairgrounds early Saturday afternoon, donning American flags and selling T-shirts that said, "Trump won." A cover band blared through the grounds as people lined up at food trucks and sipped water to stave off the heat.

Leslie Dodd drove to Wellington from Canonsburg, Pennsylvania, with her son to attend the rally. She said she hoped to hear good news from Trump and believes the GOP should follow his lead as candidates gear up for the 2022 and 2024 elections.

"As far as I'm concerned, he's still my president," Dodd said.

Edward X. Young of Brick Township, N.J.New Jersey, a 61-year-old horror movie actor, director and make-up artist, drove from his home Friday night and arrived at the Lorain County site 11 hours later.

“This is my 51st Trump rally,” Young said. The last one he said he attended was the Jan. 6 rally in Washington, where people broke into the Capitol building. Young said he did not go into the Capitol.

“I’m very excited about this one. This is the return,” said Young, who likened the atmosphere to a rock 'n' roll concert.

Trump is expected to use the rally to rail against Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, a northeastern Ohio congressman who was one of 10 Republicans who voted to impeach him for inciting the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, which left five people dead.

The Ohio Republican Party’s governing board voted in May to censure Gonzalez and called on him to resign. Weeks earlier, Trump hit back at Gonzalez by throwing his support to Max Miller, who is running against Gonzalez in next year’s GOP primary. Miller worked for Trump on the campaign trail and in the White House.

Gonzalez, who represents Ohio’s 16th congressional district, is “in big trouble” politically, Cohen said.

“His vote for impeachment – albeit one that was extremely courageous and one that was done without taking politics into account – is one that has hurt him with his own political base,” Cohen said. “And it could cost him his seat.”

Trump’s rally gives him a chance to bolster Miller’s candidacy and remind voters of what he sees as betrayal by Gonzalez and other Republicans who voted to impeach him, such as Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming.

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And then there’s Biden.

Trump used his address to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando, Florida, in February to attack his successor, repeat unfounded claims about his election loss to Biden and repeatedly hint that he might make another run for the White House in 2024.

Analysts expect a repeat performance in Ohio.

“It’s going to be his greatest hits of grievances,” Cohen said. “At the top of that list, of course, is going to be perpetrating ‘the Big Lie’ and talking about how the 2020 election was stolen by Democrats and that he should still be president.”

The Ohio rally comes just four days before Trump is scheduled to visit the U.S.-Mexico border on June 30 with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott. Trump has repeatedly attacked Biden and his border policies and is expected to do so again in Ohio.

Though he’s no longer in office and is not a candidate for public office – at least not officially – Trump’s rally is part of an overall strategy to keep him in the public eye, Cohen said.

“He’s not going away,” he said. “He’s not leaving the political stage.”

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Re: Trump enters the stage - The drums begin to roll

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:55 pm

But will the heads follow?


Trump Is Preparing for the Worst
Watch for early indications that the legal process may end badly for the former president.

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.

“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

“What brought it on?”

“Friends,” said Mike. “I had a lot of friends.”

— Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises

Like Hemingway’s Mike Campbell, the Trump Organization is confronting troubles that accumulated gradually and have coalesced suddenly. And once again, friends are at the bottom of it.

A grand-jury indictment of Donald Trump’s business and its chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, unsealed this afternoon in New York, alleges tax evasion arising from an attempt to pay Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives extra money “off the books.” Prosecutors charge that Weisselberg and others received rent payments and other benefits without paying the appropriate taxes on them. Weisselberg and the Trump Organization have said they will plead not guilty.

So far, the danger is to Trump’s friends and his business, not the former president himself. But the danger could spiral, because Trump knew only so many tricks. If Trump’s company was bypassing relatively moderate amounts of tax on the income flows to Trump’s friends, what was it doing with the much larger income flows to Trump and his own family? Even without personal testimony, finances leave a trail. There is always a debit and a credit, and a check issued to the IRS or not.

An early indication that things may end badly for Trump is the statement released today from the Trump Organization. “Allen Weisselberg is a loving and devoted husband, father and grandfather who has worked for the Trump Organization for 48 years. He is now being used by the Manhattan District Attorney as a pawn in a scorched earth attempt to harm the former President. The District Attorney is bringing a case involving employee benefits that neither the IRS nor any other District Attorney would ever think of bringing. This is not justice; this is politics.”

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Here is what is missing from that statement: “I’m 100 percent confident that every investigation will always end up in the same conclusion, which is that I follow all rules, procedures, and, most importantly, the law.” That’s the language used by former Trump Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke when he was facing ethics charges in 2018. Likewise, when Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe was accused of violating campaign-finance laws in 2016, he too was “very confident” that “there was no wrongdoing.” Plug the phrases very confident and no wrongdoing into a search engine and you will pull up statement after statement by politicians and business leaders under fire. For some, their matter worked out favorably; for others, not so much. Either way, everybody expects you to say that you’re confident you didn’t do anything wrong. It’s the thing an innocent person would want to say. So it’s kind of a tell when it goes unsaid.

An earlier statement from Trump himself likewise omitted an affirmative defense of his company and its employees, and instead attacked the professional prosecutors as “radical Left” (not to mention “rude, nasty, and totally biased”). The key line in Trump’s own statement is an anticipation of the possibility that one or another of his friends might flip: “They”—the prosecutors—continue to be “in search of a crime; and will do anything to frighten people into making up the stories or lies that they want.”

One of Trump’s skills as a politician is preparing the battlefield in advance. In the case of his first impeachment, he chose to argue outright innocence—“it was a perfect call”—and no matter how mountainous the evidence of wrongdoing, that was the line he maintained to the end.

This time, though, Trump is not claiming that “all taxes were paid” or that “it was a perfect tax return.” He’s readying his supporters for bad revelations about his company’s taxes and directing them to a fallback line that singling him out as a tax scofflaw is politically unfair.

That line of defense may well rally Trump’s supporters. It will not do him much good in court. It’s impossible for tax collectors to scrutinize every return. Selecting high-profile evaders and holding them to account is how tax laws are enforced. And if a former president numbers among those high-profile evaders, that makes the case for targeting him stronger, not weaker. It sends the message that the tax authorities most want to send: Everybody has to pay, especially powerful politicians. In 1974, former President Richard Nixon faced a review of his taxes that ultimately presented him with a bill equal to half his net worth at the time. Members of Congress have faced indictment for tax evasion, as have high-profile state and local officials.

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Trump and his team already appear to expect that the law will be against him. They are counting on that fact not to matter very much—not enough to overcome the political hullabaloo they hope to raise in Trump’s defense.

Trump worked all his life on the theory that law can be subordinated to political favors and political pressures. That theory has carried him this far—and it’s pretty far, all things considered. We are now about to see a mighty test, before the country and the world, of whether that theory will carry him the rest of the way home.

David Frum is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy (2020). In 2001 and 2002, he was a speechwriter for President George W. Bush.

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Re: Trump enters the stage - and the beat- go on

Postby Meno_ » Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:56 am


Trump sues Twitter, Facebook, Google – and immediately begins fundraising off the effort

Former President Donald Trump announced he is suing Facebook, Twitter and Google, as well as their respective CEOs Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey and Sundar Pichai.
Shortly after the news conference wrapped, Trump's political entities started sending out fundraising messages that touted the lawsuits in their appeals for money.

Twitter, Trump's preferred social media outlet throughout his one term in office, permanently banned him on the heels of the Jan. 6 invasion of the Capitol by a mob of his supporters.
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Former President Donald Trump took his fight with three massive tech companies to court, filing lawsuits that legal experts say are all but guaranteed to fail – even as they rally Republican voters, fundraisers and donors.

Trump revealed Wednesday that he is suing Facebook, Twitter and Google, as well as their respective CEOs Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey and Sundar Pichai, in class-action lawsuits.

Trump, who has a history of threatening legal action but not always following through, made the announcement at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, alongside two leaders from the America First Policy Institute, the pro-Trump nonprofit group that is supporting the lawsuits.

Shortly after the news conference wrapped, Trump's political entities started sending out fundraising messages that touted the lawsuits in their appeals for money. One such text message, written as if it were coming from Trump himself, includes a link to his joint fundraising committee Save America, which also raises money for other Republican political initiatives.

AP: Donald Trump, Twitter Facebook lawsuits: Former President Donald Trump speaks at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., Wednesday, July 7, 2021.
Former President Donald Trump speaks at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., Wednesday, July 7, 2021.
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The lawsuits were unveiled just over a month after Facebook decided to uphold Trump's ban from using the platform until at least January 2023. Twitter, Trump's preferred social media outlet throughout his one term in office, permanently banned him on the heels of the Jan. 6 invasion of the Capitol by a mob of his supporters.

The lawsuit against Pichai also names as a defendant YouTube, the video-sharing website bought by Google in 2006. YouTube indefinitely banned Trump in January.

"We're not looking to settle," Trump told reporters at Bedminster when asked about the lawsuits. "We don't know what's going to happen but we're not looking to settle," he said.

The three related lawsuits, filed in federal court in Florida, allege the tech giants have violated plaintiffs' First Amendments rights.

The suits want the court to order the media companies to let Trump back on their platforms. They also want the court to declare that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, a piece of legislation that stops tech companies from being held liable for what users post on their platforms, is unconstitutional.

As president, Trump railed against Section 230 and repeatedly called for its repeal. He even tied the issue to a crucial round of stimulus checks at the height of the coronavirus pandemic, as well as the passage of an annual defense spending bill.

Legal experts doubt whether Trump's latest attack on big tech companies will succeed.

"I think the lawsuit has almost no chance of success," Vanderbilt University law professor Brian Fitzpatrick told CNBC in a phone interview.

The tech platforms are private entities, not government institutions, and therefore the plaintiffs' claims about constitutional violations do not hold up, Fitzpatrick said.

The professor added that he was unconvinced by the argument in the lawsuits that the companies should be treated like government, because their conduct, including alleged coordination with then-President-elect Joe Biden's transition team, "amount[s] to state action."

"I think this is just a public relations lawsuit," Fitzpatrick said, "and I'll be honest with you, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends with sanctions against the lawyers for filing a frivolous lawsuit."

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Representatives for Twitter and Google declined to comment on the legal actions. Facebook did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump's spokeswoman, Liz Harrington, declined to comment ahead of the former president's speech.

The attorney representing Trump in the lawsuits, Matthew Lee Baldwin of Vargas, Gonzalez, Baldwin, Delombard, did not immediately respond to questions from CNBC about how many suits Trump planned to file, and whether these suits have all been filed in court yet or not.

Wall Street seemed largely unfazed by the news, as shares of Facebook and Google-parent Alphabet outperformed the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite.

Facebook was last seen off its session high north of 1% with a gain of 0.1%, while Alphabet added about 0.2%. Twitter was off its intraday low, but shed 0.5% in choppy trading. The moves in the social media stocks compared with a loss of 0.1% for the S&P 500 and a dip of 0.3% for the Nasdaq.

The announcement comes on the same day that The Guardian newspaper in the U.K. reported that the upcoming book "Frankly, We Did Win This Election" claims that Trump praised Adolf Hitler to his then-chief of staff John Kelly. Trump allegedly said, "Well, Hitler did a lot of good things."

Trump denied he said it, according to the book's author, Wall Street Journal reporter Michael Bender, the Guardian said.

Harrington in a statement to NBC News said the reporting "is totally false. President Trump never said this. It is made up fake news, probably by a general who was incompetent and was fired."

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Re: Trump enters the stage

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:14 pm

Meno posted:

“Harrington in a statement to NBC News said the reporting "is totally false. President Trump never said this. It is made up fake news, probably by a general who was incompetent and was fired."

That’s a lie. Trump doesn’t know what a competent General is, because he doesn’t know shit about the military. Trump doesn’t delegate to experts. Even if someone else who knows about military competence told trump this person is incompetent, trump would ignore them.
The purpose of life is to give everyone individually what they always want at the expense of no being - forever.

The biggest problem of life is the, “hey, I don’t want this to be happening” problem for everyone.

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Re: Trump enters the stage

Postby Meno_ » Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:35 pm

Ec: right, he lies yes but an undiscovered lie is like an unfounded truth- it has no bearing.

For the longest time I held the opinion that Trumpism is a retrt-middle of the road neo-Kantism, brought alive, so as to reverts the states of affairs brought about by the liberal gains in the middle of the last century.

Here is a confirmation of those events :

'Reichstag moment': Joint Chiefs chairman feared Trump was laying groundwork for coup


Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, planned for an illegal power grab by Trump.

"This is a Reichstag moment," Milley said, referring to German parliament fire ahead of Nazi regime.

Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker reveal this in "I Alone Can Fix It."

Biden said the U.S. achieved its main objectives in Afghanistan, including getting 9/11 terrorists and delivering justice to Osama bin Laden.
WASHINGTON – The highest-ranking U.S. officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, and other top military leaders made informal plans to stop a coup by former President Donald Trump and his allies in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election, according to excerpts from a new book

"I Alone Can Fix It," written by Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, describes how Milley and others feared Trump might take unconstitutional actions should he lose. CNN first reported on this excerpt.

The top brass was so disturbed by Trump's rhetoric casting doubt on the legitimacy of the election before it was held that the leaders discussed contingency plans for how to thwart any illegal power grabs by the president, including how and when to resign in protest over his actions.

"They may try, but they're not going to f****** succeed," Milley told his officers, according to Leonnig and Rucker. "You can't do this without the military. You can't do this without the CIA and the FBI. We're the guys with the guns."

Milley's spokesman, Army Col. Dave Butler, declined Thursday to comment on the excerpts.

President Donald Trump holds a briefing with Defense Secretary Mark Esper, left, and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley in the Cabinet Room of the White House in October 2019.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – an advisory body to the president – was planning for a confrontation with Trump over what Milley saw as the former president's stoking of tensions in an attempt to lay the groundwork for a coup.

In August: Top general says military will have no role in November's election

The alarm only increased after the election, when Trump and his allies contested the results and called on his supporters to oppose the legitimacy of the electoral process, often implying violence may be necessary.

"This is a Reichstag moment," Milley told his deputies in the days before Jan. 6, a reference to the 1933 burning of the German parliament that helped usher in the Nazi regime in Germany, Leonnig and Rucker write. "The gospel of the Führer."

In January: Nancy Pelosi seeks assurance from Pentagon about Trump's access to nuclear codes

With speculation about a military coup swirling in the months before the election, top military leaders took the unprecedented step in August 2020 of clarifying that the military would have no role in the 2020 election, despite some speculation from Trump that military action would be necessary.

“I believe deeply in the principle of an apolitical U.S. military,” Milley wrote in August 2020, responding to questions posed by two Democratic members of the House Armed Services Committee. “In the event of a dispute over some aspect of the elections, by law U.S. courts and the U.S. Congress are required to resolve any disputes, not the U.S. military. I foresee no role for the U.S armed forces in this process.”

The declarations came after Milley had spoken with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and other Democrats, who had sought assurances the military would not intervene should Trump call for unconstitutional orders to interfere with the election or attempt a coup.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the point of the philosophical retro analysis is. that revisions are always voulnerable to inducements to reveal motives to disconnect credible foundations. The stark revelation of this is eased by the shortened human memory, that is further obscured by charges toward the credibility of 'fake media'.

However, as strangely haunting it is to believe, the unseen Kantian forces, are overturned by the necessity of the eternal reoccurance of peer review, and the handwriting of this is on the wall in the above indicated quoted text.

This to those who try to undermine the importance and relevance of basic philosophical underpinnings.

The question remains is, can a NEW INTALLIGANCE, by virtue of dramatically increased memory, 'prove' an essential role in overcoming the hindrances which beset such attempts to enlighten politically enlightened social agents, toward a compatible arrangement ?

Can AI be compelled to come around to understand the ideas behind pragmatic significance to 'political codrectness'?

The bottom line is, when will AI reach the point of cognitive autonomy, where it is able to override 'factual' versus contrived information, and survive attempts to destroy it's functional autonomy.

The neo Kantianism purports to do this, NY using the inducements toward these originally held assumptions, but rarely can a straight line be drawn to them in all honesty.
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Re: Trump enters the stage - the onset of the end of Democra

Postby Meno_ » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:21 pm

Joe Biden: ‘We’re facing the most significant test of our democracy since the civil war. The Confederates back then never breached the Capitol as insurrectionists did on January the 6th.’

US democracy faces a momentous threat, says Joe Biden – but is he up for the fight?
The president’s speech in Philadelphia decried Republicans’ assault on voting rights but critics say it offered few answers, especially on Senate rules that let the minority to block reform

Few in the audience applauding Joe Biden could have questioned the sincerity of his warning about a momentous threat to American democracy.

But they may have walked away with lingering doubts about his ability to meet the moment or answer fears that even the office of the presidency will be found politically impotent in the face of the challenge.

‘Have you no shame?’: Biden decries Republican attacks on voting rights
“We’re facing the most significant test of our democracy since the civil war,” Biden said in a speech on Tuesday in Philadelphia, recalling the mid-19th-century conflict that left more than 600,000 people dead. “The Confederates back then never breached the Capitol as insurrectionists did on January the 6th.”

The president added pointedly: “I’m not saying this to alarm you; I’m saying this because you should be alarmed.”

Yet while Biden was praised by voting rights activists for correctly diagnosing the sickness, albeit somewhat belatedly, he was criticised for failing to offer a cure. He concluded his 24-minute speech with the exhortation “We’ve got to act!” but did not provide a battle plan.

At stake are the basic principles of democracy: who gets to vote, how they exercise that right and who gets to decide what vote counts. Since Biden’s victory over Donald Trump last November – a result that Trump and many Republicans refuse to accept, citing bogus claims of fraud – that right has been under a coordinated, relentless assault as never before in modern times.

This year 17 states have enacted 28 new laws to make it harder for people to vote. There have been nearly 400 voter suppression bills introduced in 48 states, according to the Brennan Center for Justice.

Some measures aim to reverse the vote-by-mail expansion that was put in place in the 2020 election due to the coronavirus pandemic. Others try to strengthen voter identification requirements, curtail hours and locations for early voting and ballot drop-offs or increase the risk that voters could be intimidated by poll watchers.

Campaigners say that people of color, young people and poor people would be the biggest losers. These groups are generally more likely to vote Democratic than Republican. Civil rights leaders met Biden at the White House earlier this month and appear to have convinced him that “the 21st-century Jim Crow assault is real”, as he put it on Tuesday.

The speech in Philadelphia, the birthplace of American democracy, was “a good first step”, according to Chris Scott, chief political officer of the group Democracy for America. “I think that’s what a lot of us, especially in the progressive movement, have been calling for,” he said.

“The part that really stuck with me was invoking Congressman John Lewis in saying, ‘Freedom is not a state; it is an act.” And so that’s why I say the speech is the first part but we are asking him to take action on this.”

Never once in his remarks did Biden mention Washington DC’s version of the F-word: filibuster. This arcane procedural rule in the Senate enables the minority to block debate on legislation. Last month Republicans used the filibuster to stall the For the People Act, which would create national standards for voting that could prevent some of the restrictions imposed by red states.

Senator Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona has said opposes scrapping the Senate’s filibuster rule. Photograph: Jim Lo Scalzo/EPA
Former president Barack Obama has called the filibuster “a Jim Crow relic”, a reference to its long history of thwarting civil rights legislation. Biden, who served in the Senate for 36 years, could push for its abolition or reform from his bully pulpit and by privately making the case to sceptical Democratic senators such as Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona.

Scott continued: “We cannot get any meaningful reforms passed as long as we still have this filibuster in place and so one of the greater problems is seeing him be able to have the ability of some of his predecessors. I think of Lyndon B Johnson and how he was able to leverage his experience in the United States Senate to get his own party members to fall in line.

“When we have members like Joe Manchin, like Kyrsten Sinema, we have to have them actually fall in line because what we’re seeing is Mitch McConnell do what he does best. Whether or not he’s majority leader or minority leader, he always finds a way to handcuff whatever progress we actually want to get done.”

Fears were expressed during the Democratic primary campaign that Biden is a boxer, not a fighter, whose faith in an age of political chivalry and bipartisanship is ill-suited to the bloodsport of the Trump era. On Tuesday he urged the passage of both the For the People Act – “a national imperative” – and John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act but both appear doomed under current Senate rules.

In an interview with the Reuters news agency following the speech, the civil rights leader Al Sharpton pointed out that Biden did not mention the filibuster, adding that he had just spoken to the president. “And he said to me just now, ‘Al, we’re still working through where we are going to be on that.’ He’s not committed yet.”

Biden’s passivity on the issue was thrown into sharp relief by more than 50 Democratic legislators who abruptly flew out of Texas in an attempt to derail Republican efforts to pass voting restrictions in the state. The group came to Washington, gave impassioned speeches outside the US Capitol and met Kamala Harris, the vice-president who is leading White House efforts on voting rights.

Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of the progressive grassroots movement Indivisible, said: “It’s inspiring, it’s exactly what should be happening. Everybody in the country should be looking at what they are doing and asking themselves, how do I fight just as hard for the right to vote as these Texas Democrats are doing?

“One, they’re holding up the legislative process, but two they’re making a stand and actually bringing that fight to Washington and seeking help from the federal government and now it’s on all of us to rally to that cry.”

Greenberg also urged Democrats to be similarly aggressive regarding the filibuster. “Both Manchin and Sinema, while they’re clear that they will not abolish the filibuster, have in the past both entertained discussions around reforming it to try to return it to its real purpose, from the talking filibuster to things like having quorum limits go down over time.

Congresswoman Joyce Beatty, center, chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, and other activists lead a peaceful demonstration to advocate for voting rights in the Hart Senate Office Building in Washington on Thursday. Beatty and eight others were arrested. Photograph: J Scott Applewhite/AP
“These are the kinds of things that the Democratic caucus should be talking about, because the idea that we are going to fundamentally leave our democracy unprotected because of this legislative loophole from the late 1700s is just absurd.”

She added: “Fundamentally, President Biden could say that out loud. He hasn’t yet even called for reform so for him to say, ‘I’m doing everything I can’ when he literally hasn’t even made the call for legislative reform that would be necessary to pass the For the People Act just doesn’t pass the smell test.”

Some Democrats are seeking creative ways to break the stalemate. James Clyburn, the House majority whip, has suggested creating a carve-out to the filibuster for legislation applicable to election law or other constitutional changes, which would give Democrats a way to pass their voting rights bills with a simple majority, rather than 60 votes.

Clyburn, who arguably did more than anyone to secure Biden’s victory in the Democratic primary, told reporters on Wednesday: “I think President Biden should weigh in. All I want him to do is express support for it.”

Biden has also argued that legislation is not the only tool, noting that the justice department will challenge the onslaught of voting rights restrictions and focus on dismantling racially discriminatory laws. One such intervention is already under way in Georgia.

But the issue continues to threaten Democratic unity and shine a light on the limits of the presidency – or the man who currently holds that office. Adam Jentleson, executive director of the pressure group Battle Born Collective, said in a statement: “On voting rights, President Joe Biden is failing to meet the moment.

“There is a wide gap between his rhetoric and his leadership. In his speech, he described the conservative assault on our democracy as an existential threat, yet he refused to endorse the obvious solution, which is to pass voting rights legislation and reform the filibuster to do so, if necessary.”

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Re: Trump enters the stage - Reps trumpet midterm optimism

Postby Meno_ » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:20 am

"3rd alert: We're SO CLOSE to restoring Trump's Majority, but need all hands on deck. Are you still a Republican? Leadership's asking us to confirm"

An example of barrages of fund raising requests.
Appearently all signs point to a dramatic midterm upset by Trump, who is conceived as the de-facto banner carrier of the Republican party.
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Re: Trump enters the stage - conceivable or fake news?

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:39 pm

You be the judge.

Report: Prosecutors Have Obtained Damning Information Allegedly Implicating Trump in His Company’s Crimes

"After literal decades of avoiding any and all consequences for a life of corruption that has included everything from inciting an attack on the U.S. Capitol to attempting to extort Ukraine, to allegedly directing his lawyer to violate campaign finance laws, to lying to the public about COVID-19, to allegedly stiffing hundreds of contractors, is Donald Trump actually going to be held accountable for running a company accused of, among other things, conspiracy, grand larceny, and multiple counts of tax fraud and falsifying records? On the one hand, he never has, so why would anyone expect it to happen now? On the other, thanks to the work of Manhattan prosecutors and helpful witnesses, he appears to be closer than ever to a situation in which he spends numerous years in prison!

Weeks after the Trump Organization and its longtime CFO, Allen Weisselberg, were hit with a slew of criminal charges, for which the latter faces more than a decade in prison and to which they both pleaded not guilty, the Daily Beast reports that Weisselberg‘s ex-daughter-in-law, who’s been extremely helpful to Cyrus Vance Jr.’s office thus far, provided the Manhattan D.A.’s office with explosive information concerning Donald Trump’s involvement in the crimes his company and longtime employee have been accused of committing.

According to reporter Jose Pagliery, during a Zoom call with investigators on June 25, Jennifer Weisselberg, who was previously married to Allen’s son Barry Weisselberg, told investigators that she was in Trump’s office at Trump Tower during a January 2012 meeting in which the real estate developer discussed compensation with Allen and Barry, explaining that while the latter would not be getting a raise, his children’s private school tuition, which clocked in at more than $50,000 a year per child, would be paid for. According to Jennifer Weisselberg, Trump turned to her and allegedly said, “Don’t worry, I’ve got it covered.” While that might sound like an instance of the ex-president being an uncharacteristically generous guy, prosecutors have claimed that Allen Weisselberg was awarded numerous fringe benefits over the years—like a free apartment, cars, and, yes, private school tuition—for the express purpose of avoiding paying taxes. Which, according to the indictment against him, he did, to the tune of $900,000.

According to two sources, among the prosecutors on the call were Carey Dunne, the Manhattan DA’s general counsel; Mark F. Pomerantz, a white collar crime specialist brought on for this investigation; and Gary Fishman, an assistant attorney general deputized to work on this joint investigation. If true, Jennifer Weisselberg’s claims would directly tie Trump to what a New York criminal indictment described as a corporate scheme to pay executives “in a matter that was ‘off the books.’”

“The scheme allowed the Trump Organization to evade the payment of payroll taxes that [it] was required to pay,” an indictment for the Trump Organization claims. On the flip side, it also alleges that executives avoided having to pay income taxes on a huge chunk of their pay…. The indictment, filed the very next week on June 30, does not criminally charge Trump as an individual, but it does describe how he signed checks that paid for the Weisselberg children to attend an expensive private school in Manhattan’s Upper West Side. While longtime chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg could be crucial to a criminal case against Trump, it’s Jennifer Weisselberg—his former daughter-in-law—who’s thus far been more helpful. Prosecutors have already used documents in Jennifer Weisselberg’s divorce case to explore how Trump paid more than $50,000 a year, starting in 2012, for the kids to attend the Columbia Grammar and Preparatory School.

Meanwhile, Jennifer’s claims during the Zoom call are seemingly backed up by testimony Barry gave during a 2018 divorce deposition, in which he said that his salary had remained flat for years, while his father ensured other aspects of his lifestyle were covered, including an apartment on Central Park South and later one on the Upper East Side. During his divorce deposition, Barry Weisselberg, who previously managed the Wollman ice rink for the Trump Organization, said he didn’t know if taxes had been paid on the corporate apartment where his family had lived. Asked to explain discrepancies between what he said he earned and what he actually reported to the IRS, Barry reportedly responded: “I’m not an accountant. I know what I make. I’m not too sure of certain things.”

The offices of Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr. and New York Attorney General Letitia James have indicated that the investigation is ongoing. Prosecutors have yet to file charges against others allegedly involved in the scheme, but judging by the indictment, more charges could be on the way. For instance, the indictment identifies an “unindicted co-conspirator #1,” who remains unnamed but is described as the company’s “agent” and is accused of underreporting the CFO’s taxable income in 2009.

A lawyer for the Trump Organization declined the Daily Beast’s request for comment. Previously, that attorney has suggested the D.A.’s investigation is a politically motivated witch hunt against Trump, an argument the president himself has made on multiple occasions."

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Re: Trump enters the stage -and the beat goes on...

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:47 pm

The Washington Post indicated that Trump has been 'de-platformed'

This is ironic because years ago his hiddenplatform may have been some neo-Kantian metaphor.

Trump Jr. appeared in front of some fund raising event in which he criticized Bezos for underpaying employees, forgetting his father simply renegging on work done on his hotels.

It's 115 F here in Vegas, saw one poor pathetin underfed teenager hopelessly lost and talking to himself, driving by catching his face almost as an after glanced thought; occured to me- that he must have been someone's llovingly forgotten baby!

So sad.

And now this;

1 hour ago

"The chair of former President Donald Trump's 2017 inaugural committee was arrested Tuesday on charges alleging he secretly conspired to influence U.S. policy to benefit the United Arab Emirates. (July 20)

The claim: Donald Trump will be reinstated as president in August

Supporters of Donald Trump are promoting a conspiracy theory on social media suggesting the former president will return to the White House in August, even though he lost the 2020 election eight months ago.

The theory gained traction after MyPillow CEO and founder Mike Lindell and Trump’s former attorney Sidney Powell baselessly claimed in conservative media appearances that the Supreme Court would find evidence of voter fraud and a new inauguration date would be set. (Lindell denied to USA TODAY that he ever said Trump would be reinstated specifically on Aug. 13.)

Now, the claim has made its way to social media.

“TRUMP REINSTATED!” reads text over a fake newspaper cover that was shared to Facebook on July 18. The image includes other debunked claims about arrests, election fraud and more.

The user captioned the image: “SOON VERY SOON 08-05 2021.”

The post has more than 500 reactions and more than 300 shares. Similarly, some users on YouTube have asserted Trump will be back in office by Aug. 13.

Trump himself has reportedly told allies that he thinks he will be reinstated in August, according to New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman. A Politico/Morning Consult poll found 29% of Republican voters believe Trump will return to the White House this year.

Lindell claimed evidence of election fraud would be revealed at a "cyber symposium" event in August and the Supreme Court will overthrow the results of the 2020 election by a 9-0 vote, which would lead to Trump returning to office.

But the narrative that Trump will be reinstated as president is based on debunked conspiracy theories – not facts. Previous predictions about Trump returning to office proved wrong. There is no constitutional way for Trump to return to the White House before President Joe Biden's term is over.

No constitutional way for Trump to be reinstated
Experts say there is no constitutional provision that would allow for Trump's reinstatement. There is also no legal way to overturn election results after Congress has certified Electoral College votes. The election audits promoted by Trump and his allies provide no mechanism for Biden to be removed from office.

The United States Constitution provides that the candidate with the most votes from the Electoral College shall be president. A candidate must receive 270 electoral votes to win.

New emails show former president Donald Trump and his allies pressured the Justice Department to investigate unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election in the last few weeks in office. (June 15)
Biden won 81 million votes to Trump’s 74 million, giving him 306 electoral votes. Those results were certified by Congress on Jan. 6, after a pro-Trump mob stormed the U.S. Capitol. Biden took the oath of office at noon on Jan. 20.

The 20th Amendment says the “terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January ... and the terms of their successors shall then begin.” That means Biden's term will last until January 2025.

Persistent, baseless allegations of voter fraud will not change that fact.

The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said in November that the 2020 election was “the most secure in American history.” Additionally, then-Attorney General William Barr said the Department of Justice found no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election results.

Fact check: Trump lost the 2020 presidential election

Claims that Trump will be reinstated gained popularity among followers of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory, which says Trump is secretly fighting a cabal of powerful politicians and celebrities that participate in an international child sex trafficking ring. QAnon adherents falsely claimed Trump would be reinstated on Jan. 20 and March 4, neither of which proved correct.

Election audits will not change the outcome
Trump supporters are holding on to the results of ongoing election audits to support the reinstatement theory. However, those recounts have found no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election.

Three separate audits of election results in Georgia, where Biden beat Trump by more than 10,000 votes, found no evidence of wrongdoing affecting the state's results. An ongoing audit in Maricopa County, Arizona, also hasn't surfaced any evidence of widespread voter fraud. A number of manual hand recounts across the country have affirmed Biden's victory.

Top county officials in Phoenix, Arizona, almost all of them Republicans, on Monday blasted the GOP state Senate president and the auditors she hired to run an unprecedented, partisan recount of the 2020 election in the county. (May 17)

At least 61 lawsuits from the Trump campaign alleging election fraud have failed. Courts in battleground states have denied hearing Trump's appeals to overturn election results.

Business Insider reported that even if Lindell uncovered widespread election fraud, Congress could only remove Biden through impeachment. If Biden were removed from office, Vice President Kamala Harris would become president, not Trump.

Fact check: Altered Hunter Biden photo falsely claims Trump won the 2020 election

The only path for Trump to return to the presidency would be to win the 2024 presidential election race.

The claim that Trump will be reinstated as president in August is FALSE, based on our research. The theory is based on debunked falsehoods about the 2020 election and has been promoted by QAnon supporters. There is no constitutional way for Trump to return to the White House unless he were to win the 2024 presidential race. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud affecting the 2020 election results, and a number of hand recounts have affirmed Biden's victory.

CNN, June 1, Fact-checking Sidney Powell's claim Trump could be reinstated

WTSP, Nov. 20, 2020, Once states certify election results the process moves forward

National Archives, accessed July 22, The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription

USA TODAY, Jan. 20, 'This is America's day': Biden inaugurated as 46th president, Harris sworn in as vice president

Constitution Annotated, accessed July 22, Amdt20.2 Twentieth Amendment: Doctrine and Practice

USA TODAY, Dec. 15, 2020, Fact check: Joe Biden legally won presidential election, depsite persistent contrary claims

USA TODAY, Jan. 4, The members of Congress who objected to Joe Biden's Electoral College win amid Capitol riot

USA TODAY, Nov. 12, Election security officials: 'No evidence voting systems compromised'

USA TODAY, Dec. 1, Attorney General Barr: Justice Department finds no evidence of fraud to alter election outcome

Associated Press, July 9, QAnon has receded from social media, but it's just hiding

USA TODAY, June 1, Fact check: No evidence of fraud in Georgia election results

Associated Press, May 27, Auditors find no fraud in disputed New Hampshire election

USA TODAY, Jan. 6, By the numbers: President Donald Trump's failed efforts to overturn the election

Business Insider, June 2, Why Trump can't be reinstated in August

Associated Press, June 4, Talk of Trump 2024 run builds as legal pressure intensifies

Ballotpedia, accessed July 23, Noteworthy recounts in the United States

USA TODAY, April 28, Fact check: No evidence election audit in Maricopa County has found widespread election fraud"

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Arizona test

.Sore loser' Trump reaps fruits of election lies in Arizona
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN
Updated 6:21 AM EDT, Sun July 25, 2021

(CNN)Ex-President Donald Trump's big lie came full circle on Saturday as he traveled to Arizona to dangerously seize on the false fruits of a sham election "audit" precipitated by his own discredited claims the 2020 election was stolen.

On a late afternoon of delusion and incitement, Trump offered a preview of how he could exploit grievances of millions of supporters who buy his lies about voter fraud to power a possible new presidential run in the future.

His speech underscored the nation's split reality over last November's election — the real one in which he lost and President Joe Biden was fairly elected and the nonsensical but powerful one that he sells to his supporters.

The now self-sustaining myth that Trump was improperly ejected from power is at the center of a belief system that the ex-President is imposing on his party and is making a litmus test for 2022 GOP candidates seeking his endorsement, including in the Arizona Senate race, which is one of the GOP's top targets as they try to take back the Senate.

In his latest return to campaign speeches, Trump showered praise on Arizona state senators who organized the non-scientific audit. He insisted he wasn't involved, trying to create a false impression of independence and legitimacy in a politicized process inspired by his lies.

"There is no way they win elections without cheating," the former President said of Democrats, at a packed event entitled -- with Orwellian overtones -- the "Rally to Protect Our Elections." The one-term, twice-impeached ex-commander-in-chief related prolonged and false stories of election fraud across the country. He also claimed that many more Republican-run states were seeking their own audits of election results, even though multiple judges have ruled that there was no election fraud.

Trump's appearance was full of the usual bluster, boasting, self-pity and too many falsehoods to count, and was in many ways a sideshow compared to the critical current challenges — including a pandemic that is quickly worsening again because millions of Republican voters will not get vaccinated.

But his appearance was also a warning of one of the most dangerous problems haunting a divided nation's deeply polarized politics — the fact that lies and conspiracy theories now represent sincerely held views of a large minority of the electorate thanks to Trump's mastery of demagoguery and the endless flattery of a compliant right-wing propaganda machine.

Trump reinvents the big lie
The ex-President did tell his supporters to get the vaccine on Saturday — but in such a way that offered an out for those who have bought into conservative misinformation about it -- and in an attack on Biden, he further politicized the issue. Yet again, Trump showed that he was not willing to diminish his own political capital for the greater good.

"I recommend that you take it, but I also believe in your freedoms 100%," Trump said, before adding, "because they don't trust the President, people aren't doing it."

On the vaccine, and many other issues, Trump is seeking to do nothing less than create a new truth.

"The big lie they call it, you know what is the big lie? The opposite was the big lie. The election was the big lie," Trump said, in a concise example of his malevolent method as he seeks to reshape Republican orthodoxy.

Trump loyalists echo false Arizona election fraud claims in hopes of winning midterms
Trump loyalists echo false Arizona election fraud claims in hopes of winning midterms
"Does everybody here understand that the 2020 election was a total disgrace?" the ex-President said at the rally, inciting a frenzied chant of "Trump, Trump, Trump," that demonstrated how effective his wholesale lying has become.

Trump also lashed out at Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell for refusing to buy into his lies and conspiracies about the last election. He also attacked former Vice President Mike Pence for fulfilling his constitutional duty to oversee the certification of the election in Congress and former Attorney General William Barr for saying there was no election fraud.

Among unanswered questions is whether Trump's campaign of falsehoods and refusal to accept the result in 2020 — which is rife among his base voters — will further alienate the suburban and more moderate voters who were crucial in his defeat last November. The coming months and years will also show whether Republican voters — especially when the next presidential primary race heats up — want to spend the entire campaign going over lies about the last election or will seek new candidates who might share Trump's populist extremism but offer a path to the future.

But there is no doubt about the power of Trump in fast forming primary races ahead of the midterm elections next year. A stream of pro-Trump candidates has made the journey to Arizona to curry favor with the ex-President by highlighting the unofficial audit that has so far shown no evidence of voter fraud but has twisted the facts about the election.

In a briefing earlier this month, about the "audit" of votes in Maricopa County -- the crucial battleground where Biden outpaced Trump to win the state and its 11 electoral votes -- the firm running the process expressed multiple untruths.

Doug Logan, the chief executive of Cyber Ninjas, a firm with no experience in election audits, claimed that the audit uncovered 74,243 mail-in ballots with no clear record of them being sent.

The claim was quickly picked up by Trump and some of his supporters as the narrative of "magically appearing ballots" quickly gained steam among "Make America Great Again" supporters online.

A CNN fact check found that there is no evidence of either fraud or significant problems with these ballots. There are complicated reasons why it is not unusual that Maricopa County's submitted ballot lists includes a number of voters that do not match up with requested-ballots list. Logan's comments appear to be informed by misunderstandings, deliberate or not, about the county's voting procedures. The situation has been explained by several election experts, including Garrett Archer, an election analyst at ABC15 television in Phoenix and a former official in the Arizona secretary of state's office, who is regarded as an expert on the state's election procedures.

What is going on is 'dangerous'
Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat, called Trump a "sore loser" on CNN on Friday. On Saturday, she argued that the whole "audit" was designed to feed Trump's "ego, to placate his hurt feelings because he lost the election. And he's grifting a lot of people to pay for it instead of paying it for himself."

The Washington Post reported on Thursday that Trump's political action committee had raised about $75 million so far this year but had not sent any money to the Arizona ballot review.

When CNN's Pamela Brown told Hobbs that the ex-President's crowd was chanting "lock her up" in reference to her at the Saturday rally, Hobbs warned that he was playing with political fire.

"What's going on right now really is dangerous and the former President is continuing to incite his followers to action that could end up with another insurrection and needs to be held to account for that," said Hobbs, who is running for governor in 2022.

It doesn't actually matter to Trump or his supporters if the allegations made in the audit are true or not. Trump's list of supposed irregularities that he spouted in a speech, which was often incoherent, made very little sense. But the conspiracies help fuel the massive nationwide lie that Trump created in order to avoid admitting he lost the election. Any morsel of information, no matter how quickly it is discredited, further expands the big lie. And as months pass, those who buy in travel so far from the truth that facts become meaningless.

The impact on American democracy, however, of millions of Americans losing faith in the election system — which is actually remarkably free of fraud — is deeply corrosive.

Trump's perpetuation of his own election fraud is taking place alongside a broader Republican effort to not just whitewash the behavior of the ex-President and his supporters during the Capitol insurrection on January 6 but to write an alternative history of events to cover up the truth.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who has anchored the GOP's bid to win back the House next year on Trump, and Republicans are arguing that Speaker Nancy Pelosi was to blame for what happened, apparently because she did not beef up security at the Capitol (even though the speaker is not in charge of security).

These claims are coinciding with regular releases of footage from the Justice Department and elsewhere of Trump supporters beating up police officers as they forced their way into the citadel of American democracy. But there is no place for evidence inside Trump's parallel reality bubble.

Like the Capitol riot, the Arizona audit was sparked directly by Trump's lies that the election was stolen from him. Saturday was the latest sign that he intends to pollute future election cycles with his dangerous grand illusion.

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Re: Trump enters the stage - is house cleaning starting ?

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:45 pm

Trump officials can testify on former President's actions leading up to insurrection, Justice Department decides

(CNN)The Justice Department formally declined to assert executive privilege for potential testimony of at least some witnesses related to the January 6 Capitol attack, a person briefed on the matter said.

The decision paves the way for some former Justice Department officials to testify on what they witnessed in the chaotic days between former President Donald Trump's November election loss and early January when he tried to use the Justice Department and other means to advance false claims that he won.

Among the potential witnesses from which a special select committee investigating the January 6 insurrection is expected to seek testimony is Jeffrey Rosen, who was acting attorney general in late December and until the inauguration of President Joe Biden.

'The physical violence we experienced was horrific and devastating': Officers recount harrowing events of Capitol insurrection
'The physical violence we experienced was horrific and devastating': Officers recount harrowing events of Capitol insurrection

Rosen and other Justice officials were at the center of a pressure campaign by Trump and other White House officials to back his claims of vote fraud. Frustrated that the Justice Department didn't find evidence of fraud, Trump contemplated replacing Rosen with Jeffrey Clark, another Justice Department official who signaled support for the fraud claims. Rosen and a group of top Justice officials prepared to resign if Clark were made acting attorney general.

The Justice Department's decision applies to former Justice employees. Other potential witnesses that the committee may want to hear from, such as former White House officials, may be subject to a different standard under executive privilege.

DOJ notified former officials in a letter Monday that they were free to provide "unrestricted testimony" and "irrespective of potential privilege," according to a copy of a letter reviewed by CNN.

The House Oversight and Senate Judiciary committees had asked the department to allow some former officials to testify about their interactions with Trump and other White House officials, the letter said. The new select committee investigating the Capitol riot could seek similar testimony.

"The extraordinary events in this matter constitute exceptional circumstances warranting an accommodation to Congress in this case," the letter from Bradley Weinsheimer, associate deputy attorney general, says.

The letter notes that the department consulted with the White House Counsel's office, which conveyed President Joe Biden's decision not to invoke executive privilege.

An attorney for Trump didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

The move is among two politically-sensitive matters facing Attorney General Merrick Garland this week. Later Tuesday, the Justice Department is facing a deadline to tell a federal judge whether it plans to shield Rep. Mo Brooks, who is a defendant in a lawsuit brought by Rep. Eric Swallwell over Brooks's incendiary rally speech to the pro-Trump crowd before the January 6 attack on the Capitol.

Brooks has argued that the Justice Department should take over his defense because he was acting as a member of Congress at the political rally.

Some liberals have been critical of Garland for his efforts to restore the Justice Department's institutional norms, which have included aligning with some Trump-era decisions made by the department. Among those: the Justice Department continued to defend the former President in a lawsuit brought by E. Jean Carroll, who accused Trump of sexually assaulting her and was suing the former President for defamation.

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Re: Trump enters the stage - say what?

Postby Meno_ » Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:14 am

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Trump 2024 could be American democracy's zero hour

Donald Trump.

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Making predictions about the political future is a fool's game. Pundits do it a lot because it's fun and easy, and because there are effectively no professional consequences for getting things wrong.

But thinking about how events might unfold need not be entirely frivolous — provided that pundits are honest and up-front about the assumptions and conditionals underlying predictions. If X happens, then Y will take place; and if Y happens, then A, B, or C could transpire — with A being benign, B being worrisome, and C being catastrophic. This kind of analysis can be fruitful in clarifying the various paths and range of possibilities that lie before us, even when things don't play out exactly as the pundit foresaw.

In that spirit, I'd like to venture a conditional prediction: If Donald Trump runs for president again in 2024, the United States could find itself in a politically perilous situation by mid-November that year.

If Joe Biden (or, in the event that he doesn't run, Kamala Harris or another Democrat) wins decisively, by wide margins in multiple states, we will probably be fine. Meanwhile, if Trump prevails comfortably, American democracy will go on well enough, despite the turbulence of a second Trump administration.

But if the outcome of the vote in November 2024 is close enough that Trump can launch another "stop the steal" operation in numerous swing states, things are going to get ugly fast. In that case, American democracy itself could be facing its zero hour.

Let's begin at the beginning: Is Trump going to run again? No one can know for sure, but it's looking likely. For one thing, because he's nursing grudges and he wants revenge. For another, because he's under legal threat from various investigations, and if he were to win, he would likely be immunized from punishment until he left office. Then there is his insatiable craving for attention. He received inhuman amounts of it while living in the White House, which means he's been enduring painful withdrawal ever since. In this respect, the continued social media ban on Trump could be increasing the likelihood that he'll run again, since he's incapable of hogging the spotlight in any other way.

But won't Trump have to compete against other Republicans for the GOP nomination? Not really. In addition to him holding commanding leads over potential rivals in every survey of Republican voters, there is the unreality of all such polls. It might be interesting to see that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis polls best against Trump in a large field. But would DeSantis actually run against Trump in the primaries? Make a compelling case about why voters should prefer him over Trump? I find that hard to imagine, since it would be guaranteed to provoke a furious salvo of attacks from Trump in defense of himself, which would diminish any rival in the eyes of most Republican voters. It's a no-win scenario. (Which is why the only Republicans who might seek to challenge Trump are those, like Utah Sen. Mitt Romney or Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, who have no chance at all of winning the nomination and would be running kamikaze campaigns designed to take Trump down a peg in the general election.)

So Trump is quite likely to run — and quite likely to win the Republican nomination if he does. What happens then?

One possibility is that the Democrat wins the general election decisively — so decisively that most of the Republicans in Congress and in red state legislatures currently indulging in absurd conspiracies about the stolen election of 2020 and the insurrectionary violence of Jan. 6 are unwilling to go along with an effort to overturn the results. This would mean Biden, Harris, or whichever Democrat ends up running would have to win swing states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia by a couple of percentage points. (The national popular-vote margin will be irrelevant.) In such a situation, the procedures of democratic transition would probably unfold without major incident, no matter how much of a stink Trump tried to make.

Then there's the (unlikely) possibility of Trump solidly defeating his general election opponent. This is improbable because Trump has never won more than 46.9 percent of the vote, and his refusal to accept the results of the last election and incitement of his supporters on Jan. 6 alienated some Republicans and a good number of independents. Trump may be able to win the GOP primaries in a walk, but bettering his 2020 showing in the general election of 2024 will be quite difficult. That is, unless some other event or series of them intervene to severely discredit the Democrats. Like what? Think runaway inflation or other evidence of a sharp economic downturn, continued growth in violent crime, and/or the outbreak of war with China over an attempted invasion of Taiwan.

Any of those eventualities, or others we can't currently imagine, could propel Trump to a clear victory. Progressives and some liberals would throw a fit and remain furious for the next four years, but the institutions of American democracy would continue to function, even as they ended up tested in new ways by another four years of Trumpian corruption, ineptitude, and rhetorical attacks on half the country.

The real danger would arise in a situation where Trump lost by a narrow margin, setting up a redo of the post-2020 election effort to "stop the steal" — especially if the GOP has taken control of both houses of Congress (as seems likely) in the intervening 2022 midterm election. One possibility is that the Democrat prevails by winning a small number of states that are controlled by Republican legislatures and those elected officials reject the results, pronouncing Trump the winner instead. This would then be followed by a Republican-controlled Congress certifying those results on Jan. 6, 2024. That's the scenario that many Democrats already worry quite a lot about.

But another series of events could be more likely.

Imagine that things are much less clear-cut than an outright steal by the Republicans. Imagine, instead, that Trump goads some legislatures to try for a steal, but others balk, prompting armed protests at state capitals. Conservative media outlets also fracture, with some opposing Trump's moves but others cheering them on as the only thing standing in the way of the progressive imposition of a "theocratic oligarchy."

Many Republicans in Congress, meanwhile, think Trump is full of it, but they've gone so far in endorsing his lies about election fraud going back to 2020, and in whipping up hysteria about the existential threat posed by the left, that they feel boxed in. The growing protests in Washington and around the country, organized by the militia movement, scare them. But so do the protests encouraged by the left in cities across the nation. Trump would be insisting that any outcome that doesn't deliver the White House to him should be considered illegitimate, while Democrats claim the same thing about any outcome that doesn't keep the White House in their hands.

In such a situation, we could end up with more than one slate of electors, with none of them adding up to 270. More than a constitutional crisis, this would be a legitimacy crisis that would raise the very serious prospect of full-blown democratic procedural breakdown, with no person or institution possessing the requisite authority and trust to swoop in and settle the burgeoning dispute.

How likely is it that this exact series of events unfolds in precisely this way? Not very. Contingencies we can't imagine today will undoubtedly intervene and quite possibly send events down a path we can't yet anticipate. Or else one of the less dangerous options sketched above will transpire.

But the very fact that Trump running again for the presidency could set in motion a series of events that brings American democracy to the brink is something that everyone should be pondering and preparing for as we approach our country's next civic reckoning.
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Re: Trump enters the stage - and the countdown continues"

Postby Meno_ » Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:01 pm

Texas Democrats Sue Greg Abbott as 2nd Special Legislative Session Convenes

Texas Democrats Sue Greg Abbott as 2nd Special Legislative Session Convenes
Rapinoe Responds to Trump Criticism: 'You're Rooting for People to Do Bad?'

Rapinoe Responds to Trump Criticism: 'You're Rooting for People to Do Bad?'


Donald Trump Blasts Mitch McConnell Again, Calls Infrastructure 'Gift' to Democrats

Former President Donald Trump has again lampooned Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) as a bipartisan infrastructure bill works its way through the Senate.

Trump's spokesperson Liz Harrington shared a statement via Twitter on Saturday that reiterated the former president's opposition to the infrastructure package as the Senate considers it further this weekend.

McConnell was one of 17 Republicans who voted in favor of advancing the bill on June 28 and there is a strong possibility the Senate will approve the $1 trillion package, which was negotiated by the White House and a bipartisan group of senators.

Trump's statement said: "Joe Biden's infrastructure bill is a disgrace. If Mitch McConnell was smart, which we've seen no evidence of, he would use the debt ceiling card to negotiate a good infrastructure package."

The debt ceiling refers to the need for Congress to approve an increase in the federal government's borrowing authority. Though once considered a formality, in recent years it has sometimes become a point of partisan division.

"This is a 2,700 page bill that no one could have possibly read - they would need to take speed reading courses," the statement goes on.

"It is a gift to the Democrat Party, compliments of Mitch McConnell and some RINOs, who have no idea what they are doing."

His comments mark his latest critique of McConnell, who Trump has regularly aimed broadsides at in recent months.

The statement went on to criticize specifics of the bill.

"There is very little on infrastructure in all of those pages. Instead, they track your driving so they can tax you. It is Joe Biden's form of a gas tax but far bigger, far higher and, mark my words, far worse. They want to track you everywhere you go and watch everything you do!"

Trump appears to be referring to a provision in the infrastructure bill that would allow for a per-mile road tax that could see drivers' mileage information tracked, according to The

"Joe Biden's infrastructure bill will be used against the Republican Party in the upcoming elections in 2022 and 2024. It will be very hard for me to endorse anyone foolish enough to vote in favor of this deal," Trump's statement went on.

"The good news is that the progressive wing in the Democrat Party will lose all credibility with this approval. Additionally, [House Minority Leader] Kevin McCarthy and Republican House members seem to be against the bill. If it can't be killed in the Senate, maybe it dies in the House!"

Democrats hold a slim majority in the House of Representatives and several progressive members have suggested they will oppose the infrastructure package, so its defeat in the House is possible.

Trump's statement went on to offer more criticism of McConnell "playing right into" Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's hands.

"Whether it's the House or the Senate, think twice before you approve this terrible deal," Trump said.

"Republicans should wait until after the Midterms when they will gain all the strength they'll need to make a good deal, but remember, you already have the card, it's called the debt ceiling, which the Democrats threatened us with constantly."

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Re: Trump enters the stage - Victor Orban & Donald Trump

Postby Meno_ » Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:28 pm

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Connecting Fox News' Tucker Carlson, Hungary — and Trump

From targeting migrants to inflaming an ethnonationalist base to whipping up nativist conspiracies, Trumpism is increasingly indistinguishable from Orbánism.

Aug. 8, 2021, 4:31 AM EDT

For the past few years, the Hungarian government under authoritarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has overtly courted the American right, wooing the kinds of anti-democratic forces buoying former President Donald Trump. This past week, those efforts seemed to pay off. And Orbán, easily the most autocratic figure in the European Union, scored arguably his biggest coup to date — and showed precisely the direction the Trumpian base is ready to move in.

The Hungarian government under authoritarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has overtly courted the American right.

Fox News talking head Tucker Carlson — a regular promoter of everything from political and scientific disinformation to white nationalist talking points — arrived in Budapest on Monday, where he promptly began yukking it up with Orbán. According to Carlson, who broadcast from Budapest all week and is a speaker at a far-right conference over the weekend, his trip is all about shining a light on Orbán’s achievements over the past decade.

“If you care about Western civilization and democracy and families and the ferocious assault on all three of those things by the leaders of our global institutions, you should know what is happening here right now,” Carlson said on the show.

For anyone who’s followed Hungary’s trajectory under Orbán, Carlson’s paeans to the country’s supposed “democracy” are laughable. Under a decade of Orbán's rule, Hungary has transformed from a bright spot of political freedoms to a cautionary tale in how a right-wing authoritarian can dismantle a democracy, piece by piece, while helping his cronies profit along the way.

Pick any metric you’d like, and Hungary’s self-proclaimed “democracy” hardly survives scrutiny. Look at press freedoms, for instance. Not only has Orbán’s government crafted a domestic propaganda machine that would rival autocracies anywhere, but earlier this summer Reporters Without Borders named Orbán an “enemy of press freedom” — the only European Union leader to be put on the list, which places him in the same infamous company as Syria’s Bashar al-Assad and Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

Or look at the culture of corruption and elite predation that Orbán has fostered. Not only does Transparency International now rank Hungary lower than dictatorships like Belarus or Cuba in its Corruption Perceptions Index, but the government in Budapest has transformed into little more than a vehicle for pillaging. From systemic fraud that funnels billions to regime insiders to corruption among Orbán’s inner circle, Hungary has, as nonprofit human rights advocacy organization Freedom House wrote, “evolved into a crony capitalist state par excellence.” What does this mean? As The Atlantic reported, “nobody can be rich in Hungary without having some relation” to Orbán.

Even Carlson’s claim that Hungary is some kind of bulwark of “Western civilization” — that it’s some outpost of religious conservatives who are simply protecting faith and family — is a farce. The country is hardly a bastion of Christianity; at last check, Hungary had as many “highly religious” citizens as did places like notoriously socialist Norway and even less than liberal bastions like the Netherlands. Likewise, Orbán’s Hungary is routinely the most pro-Chinese member of the European Union — a relationship that carries any number of security and corruption concerns with it.

If anything, the notion that Hungary supports “Western civilization” stems directly from the kind of bigoted policies that many far-right, traditionalist Americans would like to see replicated in the U.S.; as MSNBC’s Zeeshan Aleem noted, Orbán is “a social traditionalist who has banned gender studies at universities and shot down the legal recognition of trans people.”

Any way you look at it, Orbán and his claque have effectively flipped the country from a burgeoning democracy into something far darker.

Any way you look at it, Orbán and his claque have effectively flipped the country from a burgeoning democracy into something far darker and something far closer to the mafia states in places like Russia or Kazakhstan — places where fealty to the leader, and a willingness to target all those who’d oppose his rule, is all that matters. To see the consequences of such a pivot, look at the ongoing Olympic drama surrounding Belarusian sprinter Krystsina Tsimanouskaya, who is now seeking asylum in Poland after criticizing her coaches led to threats to her safety. As Freedom House summed up last year, Orbán’s government has “dropped any pretense of respecting democratic institutions.” (Not that Orbán would necessarily disagree: The prime minister famously called for “illiberal democracy” in his country of nearly 10 million.)

But then, maybe there’s nothing surprising about Carlson’s visit. After all, Trump and his supporters have proved only too happy to mimic Orbán’s authoritarian steps over the past few years. Trump called for the jailing of political opponents, pressured foreign governments to fabricate “dirt” on his rival and encouraged an insurrectionist riot on Jan. 6. As we’ve continued learning, Trump is also the first sitting president who ever attempted to overturn the results of a presidential election — and the will of the American electorate.



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In many ways, Trump and Orbán are birds of an autocratic feather. This helps explain why Carlson — who regularly regurgitates far-right talking points and who often seems to harbor disdain for both nonwhite Americans and American democratic principles, despite his protests to the contrary — showed up in Budapest to glad-hand Orbán and praise the Hungarian leader’s supposed achievements.

Yet while Carlson is now one of biggest names to publicly extol Orbán, he’s simply following in the steps of those who have rushed to Orbán’s defense before him. Former Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, perhaps the most outspoken defender of white nationalism in modern congressional history, praised Orbán’s anti-immigrant rhetoric in 2017. American white supremacy supporters have in recent years further described Orbán as a “hero of Western Civilization,” with right-wing cretin Steve Bannon dubbing Orbán “Trump before Trump.” Orbán’s government even went so far as to pay far-right American Twitter trolls to whitewash its authoritarian policies.

The reasons for such praise run the gamut, from Orbán’s willingness to malign immigrants and refugees to his outward efforts to target members of the LGBTQ community — and, of course, to his willingness to dismantle the aspects of Hungarian democracy he does not like, brick by brick, policy by policy. As the Washington Post columnist Ishaan Tharoor wrote, “Orbanism represents the fever dream of the American right.”

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He’s exactly right. From targeting migrants to inflaming an ethnonationalist base, from attacking the press to whipping up nativist conspiracies, from ushering in unprecedented corruption to tearing down basic democratic protections, Trumpism is increasingly indistinguishable from Orbánism. And Carlson singing the praises of both offers a clue about which direction many of Trump’s most outspoken backers would like to see America drift toward. At the very least, Carlson’s visit represents one more step toward normalizing these types of ideologies, both abroad and at home.

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Re: Trump enters the stage - rather !

Postby Meno_ » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:05 pm


UK defense secretary says Trump's deal with the Taliban was 'rotten' and that the international community will likely 'pay the consequences'
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Britain's Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is seen at Downing Street in London, Britain, January 6, 2020 REUTERS/Toby Melville

The UK defense secretary called Trump's deal with the Taliban "rotten."
He told British media that the deal was a "mistake" and that the international community may pay for it.
The Taliban has launched a massive offensive, seizing territory after territory in Afghanistan.

The UK defense secretary said this week that the deal between the Trump administration and the Taliban setting in motion the withdrawal of US and NATO forces from Afghanistan was "rotten," telling Sky News in a rare criticism that the international community will likely "pay the consequences."

"At the time of the Trump deal with, obviously the Taliban, I felt that was a mistake to have done it that way," UK Secretary of State for Defense Ben Wallace said. "We will all, as an international community, probably pay the consequences of that."

"I think the deal that was done in Doha was a rotten deal," the secretary said. "It effectively told a Taliban that wasn't winning that they were winning, and it undermined the government of Afghanistan and now we are in this position where the Taliban have clearly the momentum across the country."

Wallace also expressed concern that al Qaeda will come back, explaining to British media that "failed states around the world lead to instability, lead to a security threat to us and our interests."

"I'm absolutely worried that failed states are breeding grounds for those types of people," he said. "It's why I felt this was not the right time or decision to make because al Qaeda will probably come back."

In February 2020, the Trump administration negotiated a deal with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar that was intended to encourage peace talks between the insurgents and the Afghan government while facilitating the withdrawal of US and NATO forces.

The Biden administration upheld the deal, moving forward with plans to withdraw US troops and end the two-decade war in Afghanistan, America's longest conflict.

Biden said in July that he had trust in confidence in the capability of the Afghan forces. "The likelihood there's going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely," he said at the time.

Taliban fighters patrol inside the city of Ghazni, southwest of Kabul, Afghanistan, Friday, Aug. 13, 2021 AP Photo/Gulabuddin Amiri
The US withdrawal from Afghanistan was about 95% complete when the Taliban launched a nationwide offensive, seizing city after city. Some US intelligence assessments suggest the country could fall in a matter of weeks.

US Department of State spokesperson Ned Price said on Wednesday that the Taliban are violating both the "letter and the spirit" of the Doha agreement, explaining that rather than pursuing a "permanent and comprehensive ceasefire," all indications say "the Taliban are instead pursuing a battlefield victory."

The US Department of Defense announced on Thursday that in response to the deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan, it is sending in 3,000 troops to help evacuate US civilian personnel in Kabul. An additional force of around 4,000 troops will be on standby in Kuwait should the situation require more support.

The British armed forces are also sending in several hundred additional troops to support the evacuation of its people from Afghanistan.

Former President Donald Trump asserted in a statement Thursday that he could have handled this situation better, saying "it would have been a much different and much more successful withdrawal, and the Taliban understood that better than anyone."

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Re: Trump enters the stage - and then comes Biden"

Postby Meno_ » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:45 pm


Biden was barreling toward perilous political waters. Then Afghanistan happened.
The chaos surrounding the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan could dent confidence in his administration's competency.

President Joe Biden speaks about Afghanistan.
President Joe Biden speaks about Afghanistan from the East Room of the White House, Monday, Aug. 16, 2021. | AP Photo/Evan Vucci

Joe Biden’s approval numbers are slipping. The majority of surveys show Americans believe the nation is on the wrong track. Democrats fear the White House has faltered in getting out its message on core agenda items.

And that was before the horrific scenes began to unfold in Afghanistan.

The cataclysmic series of events over the last several days marked the most devastating period of the Biden presidency, and it comes at the precise moment when a growing number of Americans were already fearful of inflation and doubting Biden’s handling of the Covid-19 pandemic and the economy. Now, Biden’s credibility on the world stage is on the line.

It all adds up to a troubling political scenario for Democrats, who had held up their president as a seasoned international statesman, the “adult in the room” who promised to reverse what they viewed as the reckless policies of former President Donald Trump.

Republicans are moving quickly to try and ensure the foreign policy blunder sticks, in an attempt to undermine one of Biden’s core political selling points — his steady hand — and to bludgeon down-ballot candidates in tough districts who believe the best way for their party to hold power is to pitch themselves as “Biden Democrats.”

“The attention span of Americans now is short. But they will make a lasting judgement about the fall of Afghanistan before the next something bright and shiny comes along,” said Karl Rove, the veteran Republican strategist and former George W. Bush political guru. “The view that President Biden bolluxed this badly, gave our enemies a big win, consigned 39 million people to barbarism and diminished America’s credibility and standing in the world — those will remain. It will be impossible for President Biden to wash this stain away.”

The White House and some Democrats insist the American public has long since lost interest in the war in Afghanistan, and support the withdrawal. But a new Morning Consult/POLITICO poll suggests the chaos surrounding the U.S. military departure is worrying voters, although a majority of Democrats still support the withdrawal.

More perilous for Biden, according to one swing state pollster, Americans are now suddenly tuning into Afghanistan, after ignoring the conflict there for years, rarely even mentioning it as a concern in surveys. They likely aren’t aware that Trump had brokered a deal with the Taliban that Biden is now implementing.

“Obviously, this week we are all intensely focused on what's going on there,” said Charles Franklin, the chief pollster of the Marquette Poll in Wisconsin. “Foreign policy was supposed to be a real strength of Biden’s. This is a failure that undermines that supposed strength.”

The thunderclap of converging setbacks — marked in recent hours by the searing images of hordes of Afghans literally chasing planes on the tarmac and clasping their arms around jet bridgeways as they await a way out of the country — has stoked resentment abroad and raised doubts about Biden’s ability to manage unfolding crises abroad and at home.

“What we’re seeing unfold in Afghanistan is Saigon on steroids,” said Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) “We have an administration focusing on a press release surrounding the anniversary of 9/11 and not focusing on requisite planning to withdraw in an orderly fashion, leaving American interests intact, leaving our allies in Afghanistan safe, not allowing a hotbed of terrorists to erupt in our country.”

White House and administration officials concede the fall of the Afghan government happened much faster than they anticipated, though Democrats stressed that a full-scale takeover by the Taliban was not an inevitability. They argue that America long ago completed its mission of hunting down terrorists and preventing the next 9/11, and that little would have changed in the wind down absent a massive troop surge that neither Biden nor the American people were willing to stomach. The president’s supporters also are trying to reframe the pullout as an act of bravery by a realist who knew there would be political fallout but was unwilling to bear the costs of continued inaction.

In an address Monday, Biden presented that same case, focusing his remarks on the decision to retreat from Afghanistan to save American lives and taxpayer dollars.

“I stand squarely behind my decision,” Biden said. “After 20 years, I’ve learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw U.S. forces.”

Biden acknowledged the U.S. was blindsided by the Taliban’s swift seizure of the nation and proclaimed the “buck stops with me,” but in his remarks, he sidestepped the mayhem that has ensued amid the much-criticized execution of the withdrawal.

The speech in the East Room marked the president’s first public comments on the quickly deteriorating situation on the ground since the White House issued a lengthy written statement on Saturday. He traveled from Camp David to the White House to deliver the remarks, then quickly returned to the presidential retreat. In the meantime, the administration has relied on a rotating cast of Cabinet officials and foreign policy advisers to make the case for the president and laying the blame for any failures on Trump and the Afghans.

Those talking points, however, have failed to quell concerns from down-ballot Democrats, who were already fearful of a bruising midterm given the historical headwinds for the party that controls the White House. History — exacerbated by redistricting and tougher new voting laws being advanced by Republican state lawmakers — is not in their favor.

Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (D-Pa.), an Air Force veteran, panned a “failed military and diplomatic strategy.” Rep. Andy Kim (D-N.J.), a State Department alum, bemoaned the lack of “deep roots” of the Afghan National Security Forces and called it “a failure by both parties over the years.” And Rep. Elaine Luria (D-Va.), a retired Naval commander, said the time would come to “grapple with the failures that led to the fall of Afghanistan to the Taliban.”

House Democrats made no secret of their plan to cling frantically to Biden’s popularity in their bid to hold onto their majority. In a closed-door meeting in July, Democratic Congressional Campaign Chair Sean Patrick Maloney warned that the off-year polling was not strong and that vulnerable members needed to do more to tie themselves to Biden’s agenda.

Any hit to the president himself potentially weakens that plan — as Republicans gleefully pointed out.

“Every president faces seminal tests that become clarifying moments for the public, and this may be just that for President Biden,” said Dan Conston, the president of House Republicans’ top super PAC. “The president and his administration have failed the basic test of leadership and competency in such a profound way that it’s almost certainly going to contribute to his already declining approval rating.”

“The DCCC’s advice that vulnerable Democrats should run as ‘Biden Democrats’ is looking worse by the hour,” added Michael McAdams, a spokesperson for the National Republican Congressional Committee.

The White House has consistently pointed to public polling to bolster its overall case that the president’s priorities — trillions of spending on Covid-19 relief, infrastructure and social programs are popular.

But the reliance on surveys so far out from the election doesn’t account for the emerging fears about the economy and inflation, and the fact that many of those policies have yet to face sustained attacks.

“I’ve been astonished by their reliance on polls, leading them to say ‘Don't worry about $3.5 trillion’” in spending when they have yet to encounter any real pushback, Rove said. “It’s idiotic, because both political reporters and the American people are more sophisticated than that.”

Franklin, the Wisconsin pollster, noted that voters are citing inflation as a concern “in a way that it hasn’t been in the last 15 to 20, 30 years.”

And that concern is layered atop of what’s looming this fall — the possibility of school closures because of the rapid spread of the Delta variant, bitterly divisive wars over mask and vaccine mandates and exponential growth of hospitalizations amid vaccine resistance.

With 14 months until the midterms, it’s not clear how much the botched departure in Afghanistan will be top of mind for the average voter — if they cared much about it at all.

But it has caused clear fractures between Biden and a group of House Democrats with national security experience who were elected in 2018. Those members have been singularly focused on helping to evacuate U.S. citizens and allies stranded in Kabul, but they also expressed disdain over the lack of adequate planning.

"Certainly it will require American troops, more troops than we had before President Biden made this decision,” Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-N.J.) said, of securing Kabul’s airport. “Let the irony of that sink in."

“The question here is whether this is going to be Saigon or Dunkirk?” he told reporters during a Monday briefing. “Are we going to leave people behind as we did in South Vietnam or are we going to hold the beach until everybody is taken off that beach? I hope it’s the latter.”

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Re: Trump enters the stage - Trump resurgence?

Postby Meno_ » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:04 am

"Why the 'stunning' poll being pushed by Republicans isn't that stunning

"Stunning Poll Reveals Trump Would Win Election Held Today"

That's the headline of an article published Wednesday in the National Pulse, a pro-Trump "news" site. It refers to a Rasmussen Research poll that, among other things, asked people who they would vote for today between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Trump took 43% to Biden's 37%.

The conclusion, at least according to the National Pulse, is simple: Voters are having buyer's remorse on Biden -- and wish they had given Trump a second term.

It is, of course, not that simple.

Let's start with the pollster: Rasmussen Research.

CNN doesn't report results from Rasmussen because they conduct automated polls incorporating interactive voice response (IVR) that don't meet our polling standards. (IVR just means an automated voice conducts the poll rather than a human being.)

The main issue with IVR polling is who is being called, who responds and whether the overall sample is actually representative of the district, state or country being polled.

As the American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR) notes of the issues with IVR polling:

"First, there are specific state and federal laws that restrict, and even prohibit, certain kinds of automatic calling. For example, it is illegal to call mobile phone numbers using automated dialing methods. This could mean that the growing number of Americans who are only reachable by their mobile phone will not be represented in the sample unless they are dialed manually.

"In comparison with surveys that use a live interviewer, response rates are likely to be much lower for automated surveys. Further, even when they start answering questions using this methodology, respondents are much more likely to break off and not complete the interview. Thus, error due to nonresponse may affect the accuracy of the poll. It is also difficult to employ methods to randomly select a respondent within the household without the help of a live interviewer."

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Perhaps because of those issues with its sample, Rasmussen has consistently been more favorable for Republicans. Donald Trump was known to tout Rasmussen numbers during both his 2016 and 2020 campaigns because their numbers were so much more favorable to him. And as CNN's Harry Enten has noted, Rasmussen was the least accurate pollster during the 2018 midterm election.

So, there's plenty of reason to be skeptical of the pollster.

Then we get to the question-in-question on this poll, which reads: "If the next presidential election were held today, who would you vote for?"

Rasmussen reports the results to that question -- again Trump 43%, Biden 37% -- among likely voters. Which is weird. Because, how did they decide who is a likely voter for an election that isn't for another three-plus years? Determining a likely voter screen is notoriously difficult -- and to do so this far from the actual election is, to put it plainly, guesswork.

My guess as to how Rasmussen got these numbers is that their sample is disproportionately Republican-heavy. Note that in this poll, Rasmussen asked respondents who they did vote for in 2020, and found 45% for Biden, 45% for Trump, 6% for another candidate and 4% unsure. The actual popular vote was more like 51% for Biden to 47% for Trump.

(Worth noting: Rasmussen's approval rating numbers on Biden are much more negative for the incumbent than more reliable polls.) Those voters are, not surprisingly, more favorable to Trump than Biden. Hence the results.

None of this to say that Biden is in a great place, polling-wise, at the moment. His approval rating -- in a variety of credible polls -- is at its lowest ebb since he was sworn in. But this Rasmussen data is deserving of a major amount of skepticism.

Polling is sort of like a car. You get out what you put in. Put in bad gas, the car doesn't perform. Put in a non-scientific sample and you get weird results.

The truth is this Rasmussen poll is the opposite of "stunning." Given what we know about the firm and the results they produce, this latest poll is utterly predictable."

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Re: Trump enters the stage

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:20 am

Pick the poll you want to believe.

Or more wisely - ignore them all.

Truth isn't found through polls.
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    It's just the same Satanism as always -
    • separate the bottom from the top,
    • the left from the right,
    • the light from the dark, and
    • blame each for the sins of the other
    • - until they beg you to take charge.
    • -- but "you" have been observed --

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Re: Trump enters the stage - poll

Postby Meno_ » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:41 am


Georgia Lt. Gov. Calls Trump's Flaws, Election Loss GOP's 'Saving Grace'

What Polls Say About GOP Support for Trump Amid 2024 Presidential Run Rumors

Former President Donald Trump hasn't ruled out making another bid for president and polls indicate he could have majority support among Republicans.

Trump maintained his hold on the GOP after leaving office and despite some efforts to move the party past him, the former president established himself as the leader. A clear frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president, it's likely that if Trump enters the race, other GOP hopefuls will take a back seat.

Rumors started swirling about Trump's 2024 run after Undercurrent News journalist Lauren Windsor reported that Representative Jim Jordan told her Trump would announce his bid "any day now." Jordan's spokesperson denied he made the remarks, prompting Windsor to release a video of the congressman saying he spoke with Trump and he "knows" he'll run.

Trump's spokesperson denied the former president told Jordan he's running and told Newsweek that an announcement about a 2024 run wasn't imminent.

The former president has teased a run for months. He often said his decision would make people very "happy" and those close to the former president have expressed the belief that he would run for president again.

"I think he's gonna run. I want him to run. He's proven he can take the heat. We're at a moment now where you've got to have someone who's willing to fight, willing to stand up to all the abuses," Jordan, an ardent supporter of Trump, said on Thursday, according to The Des Moines Register.

Polls indicate former President Donald Trump would have support among GOP voters if he decided to run for president. Above, Trump makes an entrance at the Rally To Protect Our Elections conference on July 24, 2021, in Phoenix, Arizona.
The former president came out on top of a Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) straw poll in March and only increased his support over the coming months. When attendees of CPAC in July were asked who they wanted to see run for president, 70 percent said they wanted Trump. It was a 15 point increase from the poll in March.

While the CPAC straw poll isn't necessarily reflective of Republicans as a whole, Trump has been the leading contender in a number of surveys. A May Quinnipiac poll showed a majority of Republicans surveyed backed Trump and a July Hill-HarrisX poll found 55 percent of registered Republican voters would consider voting for the former president.

When it comes to Trump entering the presidential race, there's a partisan split on whether it would benefit or hurt America. More than 70 percent of Republicans think a 2024 Trump ticket would be good for the country and 95 percent of Democrats think it would be bad, according to an August Quinnipiac poll. A little over 60 percent of Independents think Trump shouldn't run.

Another poll, conducted by Echelon Insights and the Washington Examiner, found 60 percent of registered voters don't want Trump to mount his third campaign. However, when broken down by political party, nearly 70 percent of Republicans surveyed would likely cast their ballot for Trump.

Trump maintains that he was the true winner of the 2020 election and that President Joe Biden only ended up in the White House because of supposed election fraud. However, none of the former president's lawsuits successfully proved there was widespread fraud that changed the results of the election and evidence has yet to come out to support his claims.

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A vocal critic of Biden's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, Trump's accused his successor of undoing the work he did while in the White House. Along with potentially mounting his own campaign, Trump has vowed to help Republican candidates that espouse his America first agenda in the 2022 midterm elections that could give the GOP control of Congress.

Given the potential for Republicans to regain control of Congress, Jason Miller, Trump's former senior advisor, said in January that the former president is focused on the 2022 midterms. However, that doesn't mean it's the former president's only political ambition.

When asked about the likelihood that Trump will run in 2024, Miller told Cheddar News on Friday that it's between "99 and 100 percent" that he will join the race.

"Had a good conversation with him last night," Miller said. "He has not said the magical words to me but if you talk to him for a few minutes it's pretty clear that he's running."

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Re: Trump enters the stage -

Postby Meno_ » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:53 pm


Trump builds ‘turnkey’ campaign operation for 2024
The former president is signaling a heightened interest in a rematch with Joe Biden — and laying the necessary groundwork.

Former President Donald Trump speaks.
Former President Donald Trump speaks at a rally at the Lorain County Fairgrounds, Saturday, June 26, 2021, in Wellington, Ohio. | (Tony Dejak/AP Photo)

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Boots on the ground in Iowa. Accelerated fundraising. More national media interviews. A flood of new press statements. A rise in attack ads on the web.

With a flurry of activity from his super PAC and hints dropped in private conversations with confidantes and advisers, Donald Trump is signaling a heightened interest in reclaiming the White House — and laying the necessary groundwork to do it.

Since his November defeat, Trump and his allies have fanned the notion that he will seek a rematch in 2024. That’s nothing new — prior to his first bid for president, Trump feinted and flirted with runs for president for decades without pulling the trigger.

But associates say President Joe Biden’s declining political fortunes amid the resurgence of coronavirus and the Aug.15 fall of Kabul have intensified the interest of the former president, who is already motivated by a burning sense of pride and grievance over his loss to Biden.

“Trump sees Biden is on the ropes. He wants to throw punches as a combatant, not a heckler from the stands,” said Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, adding that Trump is in no rush to announce, though, because “the base is rightly loyal to him. And a good rule in politics is to be a candidate for as short a time as necessary.

MAGA hats sit on empty seats during an election watch party, Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2020, in Chandler, Ariz.

Trump relaunches his fundraising machine after months of quiet

Gaetz, like the dozen Trump advisers and friends interviewed for this article, declined to disclose his conversations within the organization or with Trump. But he said it’s more likely than not Trump takes the plunge, especially after the 2022 midterm elections if the GOP takes back one or both chambers of Congress.

Trump, in recent interviews, has shied away from divulging specifics about his plans, but he’s privately suggested to others he’s running. He’s also paying attention to the finer details behind the scenes, such as making editing suggestions to his web ads to make them harder hitting against Biden.

His operation is likewise taking concrete steps to enhance his profile and position him for a potential campaign. In addition to hiring a new communications staffer to keep up with the increased activity, several rallies have been added recently to Trump’s fall schedule — there are plans for events in the first-in-the-nation presidential state of Iowa and the critical swing-state of Florida.

Perhaps more revealing, less than a month ago the PAC announced it hired two top operatives from Iowa dedicated to “advancing Save America’s goals of electing strong, pro-Trump, America First conservatives.”

The Iowa staffers also serve another purpose, Trump advisers say: they can keep an eye on the other potential Republican presidential candidates flooding the first-in-the-nation caucus state.

One person who has discussed Trump’s plans but declined to comment on the record to speak more freely said that “he really hasn’t decided, but we all think he’ll run … he wants to get in a position to where it’s a turnkey operation once he says yes. So he’s maximizing his position … the super PAC is ostensibly to help win back the House and the Senate. If he does that, it makes his position stronger.”

Nearly every poll shows that Trump, at this point, has little to fear from others in a Republican primary. The top potential GOP candidates in 2024 have said they wouldn’t run against him — or have shied away from saying they would — and refrained from criticizing him.

Trump campaign adviser, Jason Miller, declared Thursday that the chances of him running are “between 99 and 100 percent. I think he is definitely running in 2024. I had a good conversation with him last night. I’m going to go see him in another couple days here.”

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, who spoke with Trump this week, voiced similar opinions in an undercover video shot Thursday by a Democratic activist, saying “I know so [that Trump is going to run again]. I talked to him yesterday. He's about ready to announce after all of this craziness in Afghanistan.”

Trump’s super PAC declined to comment for this story. Federal election laws restrict coordination between a presidential candidate and a super PAC, which can’t directly advocate for a candidate but can raise unlimited sums from individual donors, unlike a candidate.

Only one former president, Grover Cleveland in 1892, has ever returned from defeat to reclaim his old office. Trump would turn 78 years old during the 2024 campaign, making him even older than Ronald Reagan when he left office at the end of his second term.

Even so, Trump’s fundraising picked up this year as he raised $82 million in the first six months in three political committees. He also stepped up the number of conservative radio interviews, sat with Sean Hannity on Fox as well as the right-wing One America News Network.

Trump has said he remains focused on Republicans winning back the House and Senate and has only teased another run by saying “you’ll be happy” with whatever he decides.

In an interview with Maria Bartiromo on Fox Business, the ex-president blamed election laws for his inability to make an announcement.

“The campaign finance laws, which are antiquated and stupid, OK? Stupid and corrupt in a way. They’re stupid. Doesn’t allow me to tell you that, OK? If I tell you that a whole host of things happen, which are bad. So I can't tell you. I can tell you this. I love our country and you’re going to be very happy,” Trump said.

Though deplatformed from Twitter and Facebook for spreading misinformation and sparking the Capitol riot that led to his historic second impeachment, Trump has remained the heart of the party and the most sought-after endorser in Republican primary politics. Now, instead of his flood of daily tweets, his super PAC sends out tweet-length statements, sometimes repeatedly in a day.


Shadow primary: GOP 2024 hopefuls dive into House races to get around Trump

The pace notably picked up in mid-August as Biden struggled to gain public approval for his handling of the U.S. exit from Afghanistan (Biden has said he was following Trump’s planned withdrawal), “he started bleeding, and Trump is like a shark. He smelled blood,” said one confidante with whom Trump has recently spoken. But another cautioned that “he was running before the Afghanistan debacle. It’s nothing new.”

Tony Fabrizio, who polls for Trump’s Save America super PAC, said Trump is paying attention to Biden’s “dismal” numbers.

“You would think his [Trump’s] attitude would be, ‘I told you so.’ But instead, he is angry because he believes rightly or wrongly that the election was stolen from him and that all that has happened under Biden could have been avoided,” he said.

On the day Kabul fell, the former president began criticizing his successor’s every decision in Afghanistan, boasting on cable news shows and conservative radio of how he would have done a better job if he was still in the White House. Biden, in turn, blamed Trump for leaving him a foreign policy mess.

In a nod to his practice of releasing Rose Garden videos — recorded messages on the news of the day — Trump issued a video before Biden addressed the nation, directed at American service members and Afghans who were wounded or died in the Kabul airport suicide bombings.

“This tragedy should never have taken place, it should never have happened and it wouldn't have happened if I were your president,” Trump said.

Trump’s super PAC also released an advertisement titled “Surrenderer-in-chief” that poked fun at Biden for tripping while walking up the stairs of Air Force One and spliced together statements made by Biden or his staff about Afghanistan.

“Four months ago I didn't see that in him,” said one Trump adviser, referring to a prospective 2024 bid. “I saw someone who was going to wring his hands for a while about [the election]. It’s really changed now because of what we’re seeing [from Biden].”

Former presidents have at times criticized their predecessor, but none have shattered the norms of post-presidential decorum like Trump, who has taken swipes at Biden and offered his own daily commentary.

The former president — who has feuded with Gold Star families in the past — even chimed in with his own message to a Gold Star mother, Shana Chappell, after she and other Gold Star family members complained about Biden’s demeanor toward them during a transfer ceremony at Dover Air Force Base.

“If I were President, your wonderful and beautiful son Kareem would be with you now, and so would the sons and daughters of others, including all of those who died in the vicious Kabul airport attack,” Trump said in a statement, responding to her critical Facebook post about Biden.

One former Trump senior administration official who remains close to the ex-president said that Trump planned to run even before Afghanistan. “It’s nothing new. [Afghanistan] didn’t intensify [Trump’s interest] as it did convince Americans about the choice.”

Despite Trump’s public posturing and private conversations, some aides are still hesitant to say with certainty their boss will jump in the race. After all, Trump has been known to publicly flirt with an idea before changing his mind at the very last second.

“Right now, the President’s focus is on ensuring fair and honest elections, and doing everything he can to elect America First fighters to office up and down the ballot,” said a senior adviser to Trump’s political operation.

Teasing a run for president now works to Trump’s advantage. It freezes the long list of 2024 GOP hopefuls and inhibits their ability to build out a campaign apparatus while allowing him to continue raking in donations (although notably, his leadership PAC cannot use the funds for a presidential run). It also gives Trump the opportunity to call investigations into him and businesses pure politics and build up anticipation among his die-hard supporters.

For now, it’s unlikely Trump makes any official announcements before the 2022 midterms, multiple people close to Trump said.

When asked about his “99 to 100 percent” level of confidence that Trump will run, Miller made sure to stress in an interview that Trump has made no final decision.

“President Trump doesn’t do misdirection, he wears it on his sleeve,” Miller told POLITICO.

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Re: Trump enters the stage - heavens to murgatroyd run again

Postby Meno_ » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:44 pm


The peril of Trump keeps growing nearly 8 months after he left the White House
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN
Updated 1:40 AM EDT, Wed September 15, 2021

(CNN)Add another evidence dump to the growing case that a second Donald Trump presidency would be more extreme and dangerous than the first.

In new examples of the threat the ex-President poses, a bombshell book by Washington Post legend Bob Woodward and his newspaper stablemate and co-author, Robert Costa, laid bare another view into the frightening, unchained few weeks inside Trump's inner circle around the Capitol insurrection.

The problem posed by Trump is now not an aberrant past presidency -- it's the corrosive impact he could have on the nation in the future.

It's not just his previous behavior that was shocking. Before California's Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom survived Tuesday's recall election, according to a CNN projection, the ex-President was opening a new front in his "Big Lie" that now effectively claims that anytime a Republican loses it is a product of massive fraud. It's a falsehood that could tarnish American democratic elections for years to come but is eagerly accepted by millions of Trump voters. And the former President's behavior over the weekend -- using September 11 commemorations to slam his successor, President Joe Biden -- looked rather like an attempt to launch himself back onto the national stage at a moment when the former commander in chief, who was thrown off social media for inciting violence, could claim an easy spotlight.

As Trump teases another run at the White House, his behavior and new accounts of his wild final days in office are becoming too outlandish to ignore, given that he's already the prohibitive favorite for the Republican nomination. Before that, he's the tip of the spear of the GOP bid to retake the House in midterm elections next year. The price for entry for any party candidate is fealty to the flagrant lie sold to millions that Trump is still the rightful President. And he's undoubtedly the dominant force in Republican politics -- even if his ever more radical conduct may make his appeal in a national election more doubtful. At least in an election that is free and fair.

The disclosures in Woodward and Costa's "Peril" are among the most serious and alarming yet. If they are borne out, they would not just be a case of a President tearing at the structures of US democracy -- as he did with the US Capitol insurrection on January 6, designed to disrupt Biden's certification as the winner of November's election. But they also would represent a sign that the nation's most senior military officer believed Trump was a grave danger to the world in the fevered days when he was trying to cling to power.

The duo reported in the book, obtained by CNN's Jamie Gangel, that Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley took steps to interrupt any order Trump might give for military action because he thought the ex-President had deteriorated mentally after January 6. If true, the new details raise grave doubts about the former President's fitness for a second term with the nation's nuclear football, which contains the codes that could launch Armageddon, at his side.

And Milley was far from alone in his concerns. The-then head of the CIA, Gina Haspel, feared an out-of-control Trump was on the path to a right-wing coup or might lash out at Iran. And in another staggering move, the reporters say Milley also had back-channel contacts with his Chinese counterpart, who was alarmed that even Beijing could be in Trump's sights.

Milley at the center of the storm
Milley hasn't publicly commented on the bombshells. But he was at the center of a debate on Tuesday night over whether he had acted out of justified caution to curtail a President who had gone off the rails.

There were some, Florida's Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, for example, who called for Biden to fire Milley, after claiming the general had infringed the near-sacred principle of civilian control of the military by back-channeling a possible presidential order.

But Woodward and Costa addressed Milley's actions in the book's prologue, according to the copy obtained by CNN. "Was he subverting the president?" they wrote. "Some might contend Milley had overstepped his authority and taken extraordinary power for himself. But his actions, he believed, were a good faith precaution to ensure there was no historic rupture in the international order, no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons."

At the very least, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs is going to come under pressure to explain his side of the story to Congress.

The level of documentation in the new book, including a transcript of a call in which House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Milley agreed on the danger posed by the then-President's "crazy" behavior, suggests there may be more to tell.

Previous reports from earlier this summer indicated Milley had informally planned for different ways to stop Trump, including cascading resignations of top national security leaders, because he was so concerned by the then-President's behavior after November's election -- even going so far as to speak out loud over his fears that Trump would attempt a coup.

On Tuesday night, Trump lashed out at Milley, calling for action against him.

"For the record, I never even thought of attacking China—and China knows that," Trump wrote in a statement. "The people that fabricated the story are sick and demented, and the people who print it are just as bad. In fact, I'm the only President in decades who didn't get the US into a war."

Why Trump cannot be ignored
The book raises multiple alarming issues.

That people behind the scenes were even more frightened than outsiders about Trump's behavior after he incited the sacking of Capitol Hill puts the national trauma of early January in an even graver perspective.

In 2016, the idea that Trump was temperamentally unfit for the White House was a core argument of his Democratic foe Hillary Clinton, who warned that "a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons."

While Trump's rhetoric was often worse than his actions -- in his warning that he could rain "fire and fury" on North Korea, for instance -- there is plenty of evidence that America and the world faced extra danger with him in office. This is borne out by his two impeachments for gross abuses of power, and his apparent attempt to obstruct justice by firing then-FBI Director James Comey.

Some Trump opponents, Democrats and consumers of journalism wish the media would stop talking about him since he no longer holds power. And there is nothing Trump craves more than attention -- even the glare of bad publicity. The next presidential election is three years away, and maybe the new evidence of Trump's apparent unfitness for office will offer some steel to Republican rivals who might take him on in a presidential primary race. That seems a long shot, however, since any GOP official who has criticized Trump in recent years has found themselves ostracized from the party base.

But there can no longer be any doubt about the kind of presidency the United States would face from a vindicated and unrestrained Trump in a new four-year term. And Republicans, especially in the House, who have effectively handed over their party to his brand of authoritarian conservatism should also be held to account for the kind of figure they are enabling and trying to ride to power.

Still, it is unlikely that a new book involving Woodward will do anything to weaken the ex-President's base of support. A CNN poll published this week found 63% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said they want Trump as the leader of their party. Six in 10 say supporting Trump and believing that he won in 2020 are an important part of what being a Republican means to them.

If recent history is a guide, Republicans in positions of power will shrug at the new revelations. The conservative media complex will brand them "fake news." And the idea that a senior member of the military establishment may have tried to subvert Trump's powers will only embolden those who believe that a "deep state" all along thwarted an innocent President.

There is a definite sense -- borne out by five years of scandals, crushing of presidential norms and evidence of the political damage that an out-of-control President can do -- that what doesn't kill Trump's political career makes it stronger."

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Trump calls upcoming 'Justice for J6' rally a 'setup'

There are more than 600 people charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

09/16/2021 03:01 PM EDT

Former President Donald Trump on Thursday called Saturday’s ‘Justice for J6’ rally a setup for Republican voters — regardless of the outcome.

“On Saturday, that’s a setup,” Trump said in an interview with the Federalist. “If people don’t show up they’ll say, ‘Oh, it’s a lack of spirit.’ And if people do show up they’ll be harassed.”

The former president found multiple ways to weigh in on the upcoming rally on Thursday, sending out a statement echoing the messaging of the potential rally goers. The narrative surrounding Jan. 6 has been warped by some members of the Republican Party, especially groups planning to rally on Sept. 18 in support of those currently detained for participating in the insurrection.

The shift in messaging has aimed to cast those on trial as “political prisoners.” There are more than 600 people charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

Trump used his platform to fuel that narrative on Thursday, once again projecting his false claim — the very one that drove the insurrectionists to the Capitol on Jan. 6 — that the election was stolen from him.

“Our hearts and minds are with the people being persecuted so unfairly relating to the January 6th protest concerning the Rigged Presidential Election,” Trump said in a statement on Thursday. “In addition to everything else, it has proven conclusively that we are a two-tiered system of justice. In the end, however, JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL!”

Saturday’s rally has reignited concerns about another wave of violence on Capitol Hill as law enforcement prepares for the event. It’s being planned by “Look Ahead America,” a nonprofit led by a former Trump campaign staffer who’s said it will be a peaceful protest.

Law enforcement is preparing for potential unrest, and the latest intelligence report cites an increase in online chatter in support of the rally after the officer who fatally shot Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt unveiled his identity in an interview on NBC, according to CNN.

The former president has issued statements laden with conspiracy theories about Babbitt's death. He's called the officer a murderer and has lionized Babbitt as a martyr.

Around 500 people have suggested they will attend Saturday’s protest, according to an intelligence report reviewed by CNN.

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Re: Trump enters the stage - judiciary backlash?

Postby Meno_ » Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:22 am


Donald Trump could be charged with multiple crimes over his attempts to overturn his loss in the state of Georgia, report says

Donald Trump could be charged with crimes over Georgia election interference, a new report says.
The report says Trump and his allies pressured Georgia officials to overturn his loss in the state.
Trump is facing several probes in relation to his postelection conduct in Georgia.
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Former President Donald Trump could be charged with multiple crimes over election interference in Georgia, a new analysis says.

The report by the Brookings Institution, a leading think tank in Washington, DC, analyzed publicly available evidence which showed that Trump and his allies attempted to pressure Georgia officials to "change the lawful outcome of the election."

A key piece of evidence is the now-infamous call made by Trump to Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on January 3, where the former president told him to "find 11,780 votes" to overturn now-President Joe Biden's victory in the state.

"There's no way I lost Georgia," Trump repeatedly said throughout the call. "There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes."

Those assertions were false, as Biden won the state by nearly 12,000 votes, becoming the first Democratic presidential nominee to carry the longtime Republican stronghold since 1992.

The report added that Trump publicly pressured and personally contacted several other Republican officials in Georgia to ask for their help in overturning his electoral loss in the state, including Gov. Brian Kemp and Attorney General Chris Carr. Trump reportedly placed direct calls to the officials in December to urge them to go along with "his increasingly desperate plans to decertify his loss."

"We conclude that Trump's postelection conduct in Georgia leaves him at substantial risk of possible state charges predicated on multiple crimes," the report said. "These charges potentially include criminal solicitation to commit election fraud; intentional interference with performance of election duties; conspiracy to commit election fraud; criminal solicitation; and state RICO violations."

The report also added that criminal liability could extend to some Trump allies, including his former personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani appeared before committees in the Georgia Capitol with the intent of convincing state lawmakers to "take extraordinary action to reverse Biden's win," the report notes.

In February, Raffensperger's office opened a probe into Trump's efforts to overturn his loss in the state.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis also launched a criminal investigation into Trump's conduct related to the election.

The Brookings Institution report analyzed these probes and suggests the crimes that Trump could be charged with, along with his legal defenses.

The report suggests that Trump would likely claim immunity, arguing that he cannot be prosecuted for actions taken while he was in office.

Former presidents enjoy a measure of immunity for actions taken that "fall within the scope of their lawful duties as a federal official," according to the report.

However, in this case, Trump's actions were "well outside the scope of his official duties," the report noted.

For months, Trump has continued to promote debunked claims that the 2020 election was fraudulent, speaking of ballots coming from ceilings and pushing for forensic vote audits in closely-contested states like Arizona and Wisconsin.

The former president is currently facing several criminal probes over his conduct while in office, as well as his personal finances.

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Re: Trump enters the stage - an astounding new poll

Postby Meno_ » Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:03 pm

"Kamala Harris Made Joe Biden's Rough Week Even Worse

The past week was tough for President Joe Biden. Vice President Kamala Harris didn't make it any easier.

Biden's legislative agenda, including a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill and a sprawling $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation package, stalled after Democrats failed to reach an agreement on the larger piece of legislation, which includes funding for a variety of social programs.

Earlier in the week, lawmakers grilled military leaders over the U.S. evacuation of Afghanistan, and one contradicted a statement the president made last month claiming that advisers did not tell him to keep a small military presence in the country.

Polls in recent weeks have shown Biden struggling. Last month in a Harvard CAPS-Harris poll, 51 percent of registered voters said Donald Trump was a better president than Biden. A survey released by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research Friday showed Biden's approval dropping among Democrats.


Harris, for her part, inadvertently added to the president's problems on Tuesday with her response to a George Mason University student's comment accusing Israel of "ethnic genocide."

Vice President Kamala Harris made a difficult week for the Biden administration even harder after she appeared to agree with a student accusing Israel of “ethnic genocide.” Above, she speaks during a virtual COVID summit in the White House on September 22.DREW ANGERER

"You brought up how the power of the people and demonstrations and organizing is very valuable in America," the student said, "but I see that over the summer there have been protests and demonstrations in astronomical numbers standing with Palestine. But then just a few days ago there were funds allocated to continue backing Israel, which hurts my heart because it's ethnic genocide and displacement of people, the same that happened in America, and I'm sure you're aware of this."

In response, Harris said: "This is about the fact that your voice, your perspective, your experience, your truth should not be suppressed, and it must be heard."

The Israeli press jumped on the story. "VP Harris to student who accused Israel of 'genocide:' Your truth must be heard," read a headline in the Jerusalem Post on September 29. "Harris praises student for expressing 'your truth' after anti-Israel rant," Israel Hayom wrote.

Republicans quickly criticized Harris for her reaction, which some took to be agreement with the student.

"Kamala Harris doesn't have time to go the border, but she apparently has plenty of time to encourage anti-Israel, anti-Semitic falsehoods," Republican Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri tweeted Tuesday, responding to a video of the exchange posted by the Republican National Committee.

Harris's office released a statement noting that the vice president has been "unwavering in her commitment to Israel and to Israel's security," and that she "strongly disagrees with the student's characterization of Israel." Politico reported that Harris was working to mend relationships with pro-Israel Democrats; her office was also in touch with Jewish groups, including the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

"Just spoke [email protected] office. Glad to hear her confirm she is proud of her record supporting #Israel, and knows claim it is committing 'ethnic genocide' is patently false. Looking fwd to a clearing of the record so there's no ambiguity that what that student said was hateful/wrong," ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt wrote on Twitter Thursday.

The White House sent Newsweek a statement from Harris spokesperson Symone Sanders on Sunday saying that "throughout her career, the Vice President has been unwavering in her commitment to Israel and to Israel's security. While visiting George Mason University to discuss voting rights, a student voiced a personal opinion during a political science class. The Vice President strongly disagrees with the student's characterization of Israel."

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Re: Trump enters the stage - Roaring to take back America?

Postby Meno_ » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:11 am

"Donald Trump tells thousands at a rally in Iowa, 'We're going to take America back'

The Iowa-famous coach and wrestler is the "first athlete and coach from the sport of wrestling to receive this distinguished honor.”

Former President Donald Trump returned to Iowa for his first visit after losing the presidential election in November, launching a multifront assault on President Joe Biden and congressional Democrats he said were taking the nation to the "brink of ruin."

Trump, who spoke for more than 90 minutes Saturday night, rattled off a list of campaign-style promises and joked about a potential new slogan, but stopped short of announcing a reelection bid.

"We're going to take America back," he said.

He repeated false claims that the 2020 election was "rigged." He continued to cast doubt on the results including in Arizona, which just concluded a review of the state's largest county's votes and found no evidence of a stolen election.

And in front of thousands of whipped-up supporters, he endorsed both U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley and Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses, which has for decades launched the presidential nominating contests for both major political parties.

"You proved why Iowa should continue to vote first in the nation, that’s right. First in the nation," Trump said, referencing his 8-point margin of victory in Iowa in November 2020.

Trump criticized Biden for his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Afghanistan withdrawal, and multiple pieces of domestic legislation that have clogged up Congress — which Democrats control by slim margins — for months.

"Don't say I didn't warn you," Trump said, later encouraging his supporters to turn out en masse for the 2022 midterm elections.

"We must send the radical left a message they will never forget," he said.

Trump's visit comes as, according to the latest Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll, more Iowans feel favorably toward him than have before. Overall, 53% of Iowa adults hold favorable feelings toward Trump. His ratings are even higher among his fellow Republicans, with 91% feeling favorably toward him.

'Iowa, what a place': Trump gives some love to the Hawkeyes — and recalls his victory
Despite his dark message about the Biden administration, Trump was upbeat about Iowa during his visit.

"As disastrous as the Biden administration has been, no one can blame the great state of Iowa, because boy, we did really — we did really good here," he said. "Iowa, what a place."

He took the stage shortly after the University of Iowa scored a come-from-behind victory against Penn State in a game that was displayed on large screens during the rally's pre-program.

"Hello, Iowa, and congratulations to the Iowa Hawkeyes!" Trump said, kicking off his remarks. "That was a big win today!"

His appreciation for Iowa extended toward 88-year-old Grassley, who he said "has my complete and total endorsement for reelection."

"We have with us tonight a great American patriot, a man who truly loves Iowa — loves Iowa," Trump said. "He’s a young — very young guy. He’s strong. And he’s very handsome. He fights like no other. When I’ve needed him for help he was always there."

As for Gov. Kim Reynolds, who has not formally announced her reelection campaign, Trump hinted that an endorsement could be coming very soon.

"I said, 'Kim, do you want me to endorse you tonight or later?' And she said, 'Sir, this is Chuck Grassley’s night.' How nice is that?" the former president said.

More: Who's running for Iowa governor in 2022? Here are Democratic candidates hoping to challenge Kim Reynolds

Former President Donald Trump takes the stage at his rally in Des Moines, Iowa, on Sat. Oct. 9, 2021.

Former President Donald Trump takes the stage at his rally in Des Moines, Iowa, on Sat. Oct. 9, 2021.

Iowa, national Democrats criticize state Republicans for supporting Trump after Jan. 6 riot
Iowa Democratic Party Chair Ross Wilburn criticized Iowa Republicans for supporting Trump after his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol in January.

"Iowa Republicans have tied themselves to a man who attacked the foundations of our democracy throughout his time in office," Wilburn said in a statement. "Just nine months ago, he incited a violent mob to attack his own Vice President and threaten the lives of lawmakers who were simply fulfilling their constitutional duty to certify our election."

A slew of Iowa's top Republican leaders warmed up the crowd ahead of Trump, including Reynolds, Grassley and U.S. Reps. Ashley Hinson and Mariannette Miller-Meeks.

Reynolds led the crowd in a chant of "U.S.A." and criticized Biden on his immigration policies, mentioning that she visited the U.S.-Mexico border this week.

"I was just there this week," she said. "You know who’s never been there? Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. They don’t care. They don’t care what’s happening at the border."

Vice President Kamala Harris visited the U.S.-Mexico border in June.

Reynolds also mentioned Biden's COVID-19 response, eliciting boos from the crowd.

"They don’t respect you," she said of Democrats. "They don’t respect your faith, your values. They don’t think you’re capable of making your own decisions and they don’t think you should. And this is what America looks like under Democratic leadership but I’m here to tell you we’re fighting back."

National Democrats slammed Trump's visit to Iowa. Ammar Moussa, a spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee, said Trump's grip on the Republican party "is the anvil around their necks going into 2022."

"The Republican Party remains beholden to a president who oversaw millions of lost jobs, hundreds of thousands of lives lost, and a violent assault on the Capitol and police officers," Moussa said in the statement. "While Republicans have failed to lead, President Biden and Democrats continue to deliver for Iowans and Americans in ways Trump and Iowa Republicans are desperate to claim credit for."

Trump supporters from near and far gather at Iowa State Fairgrounds
Hours before the rally began, thousands of supporters and merchants selling Trump paraphernalia lined up at the Iowa State Fairgrounds.

A Vietnamese American supporter of former President Donald Trump from Los Angeles explains why his family changed their name from Tran to Trump at the Iowa State Fairgrounds in Des Moines on Oct. 9. "When you have a king that really works hard, the people take over his last name, " T. Trump says.

Among the revelers was T. Trump, a Vietnamese immigrant who traveled with other Vietnamese immigrants from California. T. Trump and others said they legally changed their last names from Tran to Trump out of respect for the "king."

"When you have a king that really works hard ... the people take over his name," T. Trump, 55 and wearing an American flag themed cowboy hat, said. "We came here for freedom. We don't want to lose this country. You were born free, you want to live free, you want to die free."

Diana Johnson, 66, and Lori Ediger, 58 — sisters from Nebraska — were also in line Saturday. They arrived at the fairgrounds at 5:30 a.m.

Ediger was so excited, she couldn't sleep, she said.

"This guy's a man of his word," Ediger said. "He does what he says he's going to do."

Both were decked out in American flag themed clothing and Trump 2024 attire.

"Biden shouldn't be in the White House," Johnson said. "Period."

Sheryl Robins, a retired nurse from Osceola, said she was glad to see the level of energy inside the fairgrounds. It was her first Trump rally since 2016.

Gary Leffler, right, 60, of West Des Moines leads a chant for supporters who gathered early to see former President Donald Trump at the Iowa State Fairgrounds in Des Moines on Oct. 9, 2021.
She said she likes how Trump brought the background of a businessman to the White House and how he supported veterans and the economy. She said she's been unhappy with how Biden has handled those issues.

"He ruined our economy, gave all that free money out, and look what he did to our military (and) the Afghans," she said, adding that her husband is a Vietnam War veteran.

Inside the gate of the fairgrounds, David Lage, an evangelist from Ankeny, said he believes Trump will win again in 2024, and he plans to support him unless the former endorsed someone else.

"Trump’s for the country. He’s for America. He’s for Jesus,” he said.

Trump’s remarks didn’t impress everyone in attendance. Darcy Shelton, a health care worker from Des Moines, said she has supported Trump in the past but did not enjoy Saturday’s speech.

“I thought he was more full of himself than anything,” said Shelton, who wore a Trump flag draped around her shoulders. “…It was more about the election being stolen from him than about the American people.”

Shelton, who said she's an independent, said she’s displeased with the Biden administration — particularly his vaccine mandate for health care workers. But she said she’d like to see someone else other than Trump run in 2024. She said she particularly likes Florida’s Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whose name has been floated as a possible candidate.

Donald Trump held a rally at the Iowa State Fairgrounds in Des Moines

Trump hints at 2024 ambitions
Although Trump talked briefly about electing Republicans to Congress next year, his speech also sounded like that of a candidate seeking another run at the presidency.

"We will quickly complete the border wall and we will end illegal immigration, once and for all," he said, running through a list of promises. "We will have to start it all over again — it would have been so much better if we had an honest election, but we’ll be able to do it again."

At one point, he speculated that Stacey Abrams, a former Georgia gubernatorial candidate, would run for president.

"Let’s run against Stacey Abrams, I’d like that," he said.

Trump has left open the door to trying to reclaim the White House, though he hasn't made any official declarations. According to the Washington Post, Trump was eager to announce his 2024 candidacy in August as the American withdrawal from Afghanistan turned chaotic. Advisers talked him out of it with how a formally declared candidacy introduces new rules about fundraising and media appearances, according to the Post.

Trump never left the political arena, even as he boarded Marine One to leave the White House shortly before Biden's inauguration in January. He had already launched a political action committee, dubbed Save America, soon after it was clear Biden won the electoral college in November.

Within weeks of leaving office, his reelection PAC was transferring tens of millions of dollars to the new PAC. By mid-summer, it was sitting on more than $90 million, according to the most recent federal financial filings. The Save America PAC has also hired two GOP consultants with deep Iowa ties.

More: Donald Trump's leadership PAC hires two Iowa GOP political consultants

Trump openly eyeing the Republican nomination for president for a third consecutive time hasn't cleared the field of other potential rivals in 2024, though none have formally declared.

Former Vice President Mike Pence, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley, U.S. Sens. Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, all Republicans, have visited Iowa this year.

Which Republicans might run for president in 2024? Iowa visits give early hint

‘The Iowa caucuses are on’: Republicans say early political trips reinforce plans for 2024 caucus

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According to Rolling Stone, the 90 minute rambling speech consisted of the usual lies and deceptions.

And then who is pushing whom?


Falling Apart: Democrats Already Finger Pointing at Each Other Over Upcoming Midterm Losses
By Brandon Morse | Oct 11, 2021 9:33 AM ET

AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite
Democrats are on a high-speed rail headed straight for disaster in the upcoming midterms and they know it. They know it so well that they’re already casting blame on fellow members of their own party.

According to The Hill, the 2022 midterm elections are increasingly looking like a massive GOP victory and as the midterms approach the divide within the Democrat party becomes increasingly more visible. The differences between more moderate Democrats and the growing extremism within the party’s more radical leftists is apparent, and they’ve begun pointing fingers at each other over a loss that hasn’t even happened yet.

For instance, part of the issue is the hard-left holding up the infrastructure bill, something that moderate Democrats see as a surefire way to make centrist constituents angry while suffering zero blowback thanks to the safety of the hard-left Democrat’s solidly blue districts. The radicals want the social spending package before anything else happens, and are holding the infrastructure bill hostage until it’s passed.

“It’s very risky to have to go back to your district and tell people that you voted ‘no’ on $1.2 trillion of infrastructure funding,” said Rep. Vicente Gonzalez, a “Blue Dog” Democrat.

The Hill reported that the radicals see it differently:

Progressives take a completely different view.

They see themselves as fighting for the Biden agenda, and argue the party’s liberal base will have no reason to come out and support liberal and centrist Democrats alike unless lawmakers can enact real change at a time when they hold the White House and both chambers of Congress.

In other words, they see a moment to shove through extreme agenda items in the short time they have, making it clear that even they know they don’t have much longer before the Democrats’ time in power goes belly-up. Minnesota’s resident extremist, Ilhan Omar, summed up the radicals’ position:

“Inaction is insanity … Trying to kill your party’s agenda is insanity. … Losing the majority in the House in the Senate is insanity,” said Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), one of the leaders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

“Being sane is trying to do everything that you can to get to the table, negotiate in good faith, not break deals, and deliver on behalf of the American people on the promises that we make.”

The frustration over this from moderates was put well by Virginia’s Rep. Abigail Spanberger.

“We are now arbitrarily waiting until some point in the future for the progress of another bill that is outside of physical infrastructure to pass. And so now these bills are tied together. There had been talks of dual track; dual tracks mean two. Now they’re, I guess, on the same exact train car,” said Spanberger.

Both sides of the Democrat civil war are living under some sort of delusion. The moderate Democrats won’t be saved by the passage of the infrastructure bill and the radicals won’t get their social spending package with moderate Democrats in the Senate like West Virginia’s Joe Manchin and Arizona’s Kyrsten Sinema holding back the worst of the left’s attempts.

Their biggest problem isn’t any unpassed bills, but their increasingly unpopular leader, President Joe Biden. His continuously falling poll numbers are spelling doom for the party that supports him.

With failures mounting up from the economy to Afghanistan, to the border, and now the attacks on parents from his own DOJ over radicalized education practices in schools, Biden’s likely doomed himself and his entire party along with him.

No matter how hard they try to bail water, the Democrats’ ship will sink

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Re: Trump enters the stage

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Re: Trump enters the stage. Strange brew

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Double double toil and trouble.

"House votes to hold former Trump adviser Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress
Savannah Behrmann

WASHINGTON – The House of Representatives voted Thursday to hold former Trump adviser Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress.

Bannon, who was White House chief strategist for the first few months of Donald Trump's presidency, refused to comply with subpoenas from the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by a pro-Trump mob. The Select Committee voted unanimously Tuesday to hold Bannon in congressional contempt.

The full House voted 229-202. All Democrats voted in favor; most Republicans voted against.

House GOP leadership had urged members Wednesday to vote no, but nine Republicans voted to hold Bannon in contempt. That included Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, both of whom serve on the Jan. 6 committee.

Other Republicans included Michigan Reps. Fred Upton and Peter Meijer, Rep. John Katko of New York, Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Rep. Nancy Mace of South Carolina, and Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington.

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