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The God: LIBER

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:53 pm

Book means free.

We now enter the age of the ascent of LIBER
the ancient god of book and wine, feast and sex, cultivation and decadence.



LIBER

the original god of liberty.

HAIL!
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby encode_decode » Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:31 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:LIBER

the original god of liberty.

HAIL!

Let's hear a Hail from the plebs.

:lol:

Sounds OK to me. An easy task now?
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby iambiguous » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:12 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Book means free.

We now enter the age of the ascent of LIBER
the ancient god of book and wine, feast and sex, cultivation and decadence.



LIBER

the original god of liberty.

HAIL!


Again, from my frame of mind, yet another entirely esoteric post from him.

As though it is secret language that only those "in the know" can grasp.

Me, when I read a post -- any post -- the first thing that comes to mind is, "how can I relate this to the life that I live from day to day"?

And, in particular, when these interactions result in conflict as a result of conflicting narratives relating to God and religion.

Or, perhaps, here, conflicting narratives relating to Nietzsche, the Übermensch and...Dionysus?
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:17 pm

iambiguous wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Book means free.

We now enter the age of the ascent of LIBER
the ancient god of book and wine, feast and sex, cultivation and decadence.



LIBER

the original god of liberty.

HAIL!


Again, from my frame of mind, yet another entirely esoteric post from him.

As though it is secret language that only those "in the know" can grasp.

Me, when I read a post -- any post -- the first thing that comes to mind is, "how can I relate this to the life that I live from day to day"?

And, in particular, when these interactions result in conflict as a result of conflicting narratives relating to God and religion.

Or, perhaps, here, conflicting narratives relating to Nietzsche, the Übermensch and...Dionysus?






Perhaps, but the counter-argument is equally challenging.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:47 pm

encode_decode wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:LIBER

the original god of liberty.

HAIL!

Let's hear a Hail from the plebs.

:lol:

Sounds OK to me. An easy task now?

8)
must even pleasure be a task?



Of course, it very well can be.



the discipline of pleasure
the discipline of liberty...



I wouldn't call it that. But true liberty does of course require a whole lot of discipline to underwrite it.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Sculptor » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:08 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Book means free.

We now enter the age of the ascent of LIBER
the ancient god of book and wine, feast and sex, cultivation and decadence.



LIBER

the original god of liberty.

HAIL!


No.
Book comes from the Old English for Beech, whose bark was used to inscribe runes.
Free also has a Germanic root.


I think you are trying to make a link between the French fo book which is Livre, and liberty from the Latin.

The "original" goddess of liberty is Libertas, who like most "originals" has earlier sources.
That there might be a connection to books is not demonstrated or proven.
Do you have any evidence?
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:42 pm

Sculptor wrote:Book comes from the Old English for Beech, whose bark was used to inscribe runes.

That I did not know.

Free also has a Germanic root.

Yes, related to Freya. In Dutch, vrijen means making love. It used to, it's not been in use for a few decades.

I think you are trying to make a link between the French fo book which is Livre, and liberty from the Latin.

Liber does mean book as well as free in Latin, but declines differently. I know they're not the same word technically (I had 7 years of Latin, not entirely ignorant) but, in the spirit of Liberty, I decided to take the freedom to unite them.

The "original" goddess of liberty is Libertas, who like most "originals" has earlier sources.
That there might be a connection to books is not demonstrated or proven.
Do you have any evidence?

No, I am practicing Theurgy.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby perpetualburn » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:14 pm



The god of wine comes crashing through
The headlights of a car that
Took you farther than you thought
You'd ever wanna go
As a pillar of rising smoke did my angel condescend and appear, standing without reserve on the exhausted banks of infinite sorrow.

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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Sculptor » Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:20 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Sculptor wrote:Book comes from the Old English for Beech, whose bark was used to inscribe runes.

That I did not know.

Free also has a Germanic root.

Yes, related to Freya. In Dutch, vrijen means making love. It used to, it's not been in use for a few decades.

INdeed but there is a mistake in not recognising when two words with the same root actually spearate and depart in meaing from one another. Just because two things come from the same soil does not mean they are meaningfully connected.
Whilst others are simply homophonic. Look at the word "set" for example.

I think you are trying to make a link between the French fo book which is Livre, and liberty from the Latin.

Liber does mean book as well as free in Latin, but declines differently. I know they're not the same word technically (I had 7 years of Latin, not entirely ignorant) but, in the spirit of Liberty, I decided to take the freedom to unite them.

So you have zero evidence that these are not simply homophones? Is that correct?

The "original" goddess of liberty is Libertas, who like most "originals" has earlier sources.
That there might be a connection to books is not demonstrated or proven.
Do you have any evidence?

No, I am practicing Theurgy.


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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Sculptor » Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:21 pm

Theurgy is literally a fantasy.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:52 pm

Sculptor wrote:Theurgy is literally a fantasy.

You are entitled to your opinion as well.
You misunderstood me, as usual... it is tiring how slow people are... I said I deliberately used the two words as one, taking the liberty (dont you even get that pun?) --
and no, making use of correspondences is not falsity. It is called creation.
Even DNA works that way.

Also, since you didn't know before I told you that Liber is the latin word for Book, I consider you edified by my efforts nonetheless!

Have some more respect. That goes for anyone. When youve been taught something, at least give a nod of acknowledgement to your teacher.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Sculptor » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:03 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
Sculptor wrote:Theurgy is literally a fantasy.

You are entitled to your opinion as well.
You misunderstood me, as usual... it is tiring how slow people are... I said I deliberately used the two words as one, taking the liberty (dont you even get that pun?) --
and no, making use of correspondences is not falsity. It is called creation.
Even DNA works that way.

Also, since you didn't know before I told you that Liber is the latin word for Book, I consider you edified by my efforts nonetheless!

Have some more respect. That goes for anyone. When youve been taught something, at least give a nod of acknowledgement to your teacher.

Tiring.
You are just so wrong, confused misguided and blatantly ignorant of some of the most simple fact of life.
I hope you keep this nonsense to yourself. I feel sorry for the people you live around if you share your twisted beliefs.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:07 pm

You are in a lot of pain, that is clear. I have a suspicion as to why you are intent on taking it out on me.

Its clear to anyone Ive not said a single thing that's an error, and you have.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Sculptor » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:16 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:You are in a lot of pain, that is clear. I have a suspicion as to why you are intent on taking it out on me.

Its clear to anyone Ive not said a single thing that's an error, and you have.


Please read the comments I made above.
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Re: The God: LIBER

Postby Dan~ » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:05 am

Fixed Cross wrote:No, I am practicing Theurgy.

I recommend meditation before and after theurgy sessions.
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