## Plans for a religion

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### Plans for a religion

I want to spend my inheritance, when i get it, in the far future, upon a bunch of small interconnected houses.
I will find and invite people to live there. It will be on dad's farm land, so no rent issues.
We will have gardens and self-supplied organic foods.

The religion of Canada is freedom of choice.
So I must accept that first.
Next, I try to share my beliefs if it can help someone out.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

What is to prevent it from becoming merely a group of randomly believing households?
How does "religion" fit into your plan?
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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### Re: Plans for a religion

James S Saint wrote:What is to prevent it from becoming merely a group of randomly believing households?
How does "religion" fit into your plan?

I was hoping we would share similar paradigms and beliefs.
I think unity and virtue is more important than beliefs in general.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

James S Saint wrote:What is to prevent it from becoming merely a group of randomly believing households?
How does "religion" fit into your plan?

And when you call it a "plan for a religion", do you mean you intend to spawn a new following that will catch on like wildfire? Something that will one day be held up among the great ones: Christianity, Buddhism, Shintoism, Taoism, etc.?

I live only a few hours from you (last I checked). I might be willing to convert if I can live there rent free.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

gib wrote:
James S Saint wrote:What is to prevent it from becoming merely a group of randomly believing households?
How does "religion" fit into your plan?

And when you call it a "plan for a religion", do you mean you intend to spawn a new following that will catch on like wildfire? Something that will one day be held up among the great ones: Christianity, Buddhism, Shintoism, Taoism, etc.?

I live only a few hours from you (last I checked). I might be willing to convert if I can live there rent free.

Cool. We should talk more about that.
I think the best things wont really become famous.
I can only make the houses once i have enough money, from inheritance.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

A United Community of Virtue. From what little you've said about this venture, it sounds charming, Dan. I'll be discussing this with Joker.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:A United Community of Virtue. From what little you've said about this venture, it sounds charming, Dan. I'll be discussing this with Joker.

You, me, Joker, and Dan, all living in a Canadian commune. Won't that be fun!
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"Why, I haven't been that entertained since the stock market crash of 1929! Ha! Ha! Ha!... So many orphans."

"I want to watch the scum of the world struggle to climb up the hill of betterment only to repeatedly trip and tumble down to the fiery pit of failure."

"With all due respect’ is a wonderful expression because it actually doesn’t specify how much respect is due."

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### Re: Plans for a religion

The problem with Utopia is it tends not to translate too well to reality
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:A United Community of Virtue. From what little you've said about this venture, it sounds charming, Dan. I'll be discussing this with Joker.

That sounds like a good idea.
Thanks for going to talk to Joker about it.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

surreptitious57 wrote:
The problem with Utopia is it tends not to translate too well to reality

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### Re: Plans for a religion

"We must love one another or die." W.H.Auden
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### Re: Plans for a religion

If you make the leader of this cult, I will make up a religion they will be eager to follow.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

...also Dan, hold a yearly music and food festival and charge 50+ dollars a ticket.. works for many land owners here.
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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### Re: Plans for a religion

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:A United Community of Virtue. From what little you've said about this venture, it sounds charming, Dan. I'll be discussing this with Joker.
Which virtue(s)?

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### Re: Plans for a religion

Also, stupid shit usually happens to people who spend their inheretance without planning or wisdom. I know someone who actually was worse off and more in debt After they spent their inheretence.

Imagine winning the lotto, and somehow you are in debt more than before.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

MagsJ wrote:...also Dan, hold a yearly music and food festival and charge 50+ dollars a ticket.. works for many land owners here.

I was thinking maybe donations, and the friends come to camp there, and we cook vegeterian food.
The camping is to make more access to people beyond the small house cluster.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Oh Dan, I'm getting a bit carried away. Sorry.

A Frame Homes have always been a favorite of mine. I'd actually like to build it with the sheet metal roof, a bedroom loft, create lots of stained glass windows, and a stone fireplace. Solar panels and a vertical wind turbine too.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Eye candy.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

You like? One massive deck could connect all the homes together with an enormous, stonewalled firepit for community gatherings. I know, I need to stop.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Dan~ wrote:I was thinking maybe donations, and the friends come to camp there, and we cook vegeterian food.
The camping is to make more access to people beyond the small house cluster.

Take a lesson from Trump...

"This is what I want to do. This is why I want to do it. This is how I am going to do it."

Explicate .. and they will come.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Dan~ wrote:
MagsJ wrote:...also Dan, hold a yearly music and food festival and charge 50+ dollars a ticket.. works for many land owners here.

I was thinking maybe donations, and the friends come to camp there, and we cook vegeterian food.
The camping is to make more access to people beyond the small house cluster.

Definitely go with whatever works.. and whatever works for you. MM's a-frame teepee-esque house idea is beautiful yet practical.. would let in a tonne of light and sun heat.

I like your idea too Dan~
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

Examine what is said, not him who speaks ~Arab proverb

aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.

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### Re: Plans for a religion

Dan~ wrote:I want to spend my inheritance, when i get it, in the far future, upon a bunch of small interconnected houses.
I will find and invite people to live there. It will be on dad's farm land, so no rent issues.
We will have gardens and self-supplied organic foods.

The religion of Canada is freedom of choice.
So I must accept that first.
Next, I try to share my beliefs if it can help someone out.

You plan on creating a new religious cult? Will there be Koolaid?
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### Re: Plans for a religion

I have nothing against visiting the Canadian wilderness however. Dan can play the banjo around a campfire while me and Mongoose roast some marshmallows.
Civilization is a ship of fools headed to a one way destination of catastrophe and annihilation, its many captains populated by asshole-idiots that all agree it is unsinkable.

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### Re: Plans for a religion

HaHaHa wrote:You plan on creating a new religious cult? Will there be Koolaid?

Actually I was thinking maybe just bumming members from buddhism.
And also atheists are welcome.
The ideal of people living together and being freinds is more important than a religion.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Dad and Andrew don't like my idea at all.
They are ok with andrew spending his spare money on beer and weed.
Buying a new car or stuffing animals you've shot.
But when it comes to a commune, giving things to others,
that is some kind of a crime.

These humans are foolish and I won't let that stop my plans.
It's only a matter of time until I set something up.
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