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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:08 pm

I would fail your first rule as I cannot help but kill some of the lower animals.

I drive a car.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:21 am

Greatest I am wrote:I would fail your first rule as I cannot help but kill some of the lower animals.

I drive a car.

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Road kill doesn't count as it is an accident.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:02 am

Dan~ wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:I would fail your first rule as I cannot help but kill some of the lower animals.

I drive a car.

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Road kill doesn't count as it is an accident.


Not always.

Just look around.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:37 am

Right Reason Summary 1

The greatest goal favors and improves life the most.
Our body is destined to die, but our soul is destined to live on.
The longest lasting happiness comes from soul-benifite.
The second longest lasting happiness comes from and through the mind.
And the shortest happiness comes from bodily pleasures.
Each of these pleasures are desirable.
But some things just last longer than our body.

Suffering and pain are hard wired into the human mental system.
The cure for all human suffering is not what it seems.
Happiness comes from within, but unhappiness also comes from within.
It's mechanistic.
However, some people have pushed self descipline to its limits.
They are far more pain resistant than a common man or woman.
The worst pain is soul-pain.

[quote]
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven,
where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal;
Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete,
go and sell your possessions and give to the poor,
and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

The christian idea of sacrificing the inferior for the superior.
Many things are more valuable than money.
My own idea of soul progression seems to relate to the idea of treasures in heaven.
However, my idea of soul progression is not God-based.

Extremism is always bad.
The middle way path was just a form of being reasonable.
Extremism can turn a good idea into a deadly cult.
Likewise, balance is always good, and if it is bad,
then it is not a harmonious balance.

The solution to suffering is one way at one time,
and in another place, different.
Nirvana is different for one person than it is for another.
There is more than one buddha.
Each buddha is unique and reasonably imperfect.

Meditation, reading and fine music, is good for the mind.
Building one's intellect can lead to a door way,
to the soul and its truths.

Just like every nirvana is unique to that person,
so also is the practice of improvements.
Improvement looks different for different people.
Meditation is one aspect,
and in the sub sections of it, there are many methods,
which it would be fair if we tried each one of them.

What is wrong?
Causing suffering. The greater the suffering,
the more severe the sin. Ultimately suffering is an illusion,
but it is so hard wired that most people can't control it much.
And so it may not be our fault when offense happens.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Ierrellus » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:51 pm

Beautiful thoughts.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:57 pm

Just as a soul can be strengthened, so too can it be destroyed,
Annihilation is as important to address as improvement.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Ierrellus » Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:28 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Just as a soul can be strengthened, so too can it be destroyed,
Annihilation is as important to address as improvement.


God reclaims all souls eventually. No soul is ever destroyed.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Sculptor » Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:53 pm

Dan~ wrote:I want to spend my inheritance, when i get it, in the far future, upon a bunch of small interconnected houses.
I will find and invite people to live there. It will be on dad's farm land, so no rent issues.
We will have gardens and self-supplied organic foods.

The religion of Canada is freedom of choice.
So I must accept that first.
Next, I try to share my beliefs if it can help someone out.


Sounds like the terrace of Hell.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:52 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Just as a soul can be strengthened, so too can it be destroyed,
Annihilation is as important to address as improvement.

This is of course true.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:59 pm

Ierrellus wrote:
Urwrongx1000 wrote:Just as a soul can be strengthened, so too can it be destroyed,
Annihilation is as important to address as improvement.


God reclaims all souls eventually. No soul is ever destroyed.


You and Urwrong make positive statements, as if they were accepted facts, when no one has any proof of the reality of souls.

Being so loose with language makes both of you look like liars.

Can you both admit that you have no solid proofs to show, and change how you state your obviously and demonstrably untrue claims?

Show where your first hand information came from, or be seen as talking out of your lying asses.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:00 pm

Dan~ wrote:
Urwrongx1000 wrote:Just as a soul can be strengthened, so too can it be destroyed,
Annihilation is as important to address as improvement.

This is of course true.


Show your confirming proof.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:22 pm

Greatest I am wrote:Show where your first hand information came from, or be seen as talking out of your lying asses.

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You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Take your threats elsewhere.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:03 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:Show where your first hand information came from, or be seen as talking out of your lying asses.

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You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Take your threats elsewhere.


IOWs, you lied.

Prove me wrong.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:37 pm

Starting a conversation with threats and libel is intellectually dishonest at best, evil at worst.

You're in no position to demand anything from anybody. You may leave.
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Re: Plans for a religion

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Sculptor » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:57 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Starting a conversation with threats and libel is intellectually dishonest at best, evil at worst.

You're in no position to demand anything from anybody. You may leave.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby tbrown04 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:43 am

barbarianhorde wrote:
Dan~ wrote:https://howtostartanllc.com/business-ideas/campground

I just found out about this idea.
I want to set up an ultra cheap camp.
Later i can upgrade it.

Excellent plan really. Would it be in the Canada or the USA?

Dan~ wrote:https://www.filehosting.org/file/details/803036/Constructs%201%20.mp3

Here is another podcast idea.
I did not make a text version yet.

Thanks for taking the trouble to explain.

Yeah, interesting. I would just try this
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:33 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1gY7RWE48U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BHg1ALej3Q

My personal religion is compatible with Buddhism in part.
These are 2 Buddhism videos.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:15 am

Spring is coming, eventually.
Hermitage House is on my mind.
Dali Lama , Jesus , and Atheism.

I hope it can all come together well.

recommended donations :
1$per cup of tea, lemonade or coffee.
3$per cup of strong home made liquor. (grape juice from the store wine, apple cider, green tea camboocha, chai tea camboocha)
maybe buy mechanical distiller much later in plans.
6$per meal, usually veggitarian.
11$per night, indoor rooms.
8$per night in tents.

All questions and comments are welcome.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby MagsJ » Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:42 pm

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Does this mean that your sanctuary project is going ahead?
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

Examine what is said, not him who speaks ~Arab proverb

aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:24 pm

MagsJ wrote:_
Does this mean that your sanctuary project is going ahead?

I plan to within a few months from now yes.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby MagsJ » Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:10 am

Dan~ wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Does this mean that your sanctuary project is going ahead? :)

I plan to within a few months from now yes.

That’s amazing news..

Are you ready to become somewhat of a celebrity?
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. ~MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:44 am

MagsJ wrote:
Dan~ wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Does this mean that your sanctuary project is going ahead? :)
I plan to within a few months from now yes.

That’s amazing news..
Are you ready to become somewhat of a celebrity?


I doubt i would become a celebrity.
But if i did, i think i could handle it.

The weather was nice today.
At some point, +5c

Been thinking about a variety of things.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:22 am

Question. Why isn’t Ecmandu the author of the original post?

Another question. Why would someone on a philosophy forum want to escape reality in building something other-than-reality to explain reality?

Another question. If what one wants is community, why not just build that? If what one wants is community built around religion, why not just use your powers of philosophy to decide on the most probable religion that best accounts for the data and let it shape how you build a community?

Last question. Since community already exists, and there’s a lot of room for improvement, but a lot of progress has already been made, why reinvent the wheel? Why not just make it better by applying the tenets of the most probable religion?

If you just wanna go glamping on vacation so you’re inviting momentary lapses of reason, there’s like a better forum for that, methinks. But that’s me being snooty, I guess.

New question. Does religion beget community, or does community beget religion? Marx flip flops like a tazed fish (politician) & can’t seem to make up his mind on that. Define religion — just an opiate? Define community - not an opiate?
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:41 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Question. Why isn’t Ecmandu the author of the original post?

Another question. Why would someone on a philosophy forum want to escape reality in building something other-than-reality to explain reality?

Another question. If what one wants is community, why not just build that? If what one wants is community built around religion, why not just use your powers of philosophy to decide on the most probable religion that best accounts for the data and let it shape how you build a community?

Last question. Since community already exists, and there’s a lot of room for improvement, but a lot of progress has already been made, why reinvent the wheel? Why not just make it better by applying the tenets of the most probable religion?

If you just wanna go glamping on vacation so you’re inviting momentary lapses of reason, there’s like a better forum for that, methinks. But that’s me being snooty, I guess.

New question. Does religion beget community, or does community beget religion? Marx flip flops like a tazed fish (politician) & can’t seem to make up his mind on that. Define religion — just an opiate? Define community - not an opiate?


It's hard for me to find value in your latest post here.
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