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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:10 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Distinguish between permissive will under/within perfect will. He permits sin (to make love possible). He doesn’t sin—he only loves (includes justice). But knowing a) we would sin & b) he would prove he loves us despite our sin… that was/is built in.

Free will is love (includes justice). Slavery is its privation… idolatry… addiction. Love is life. Sin is death.

We can care what each other did so forgiveness actually means something. That’s the good stuff. Better is to serve each other up some goodness, truth, and beauty, but… not being God… loving each other despite our crap also helps & is as godlike as it gets.

P.s. I smelled a rose yesterday. Totally your fault & I’ll never forgive you.


Ok. Here’s the deal though. (I have access to an extraordinary amount of information in existence)...

It’s easy to place people in their private heaven forever (which would place an omnipresent being in their private heaven forever)... and... if someone wanted to explore consent violation of their own accord... they can dip their little pinky toe into the ocean of consent violation for a brief second and immediately realize why the plan was made to give them what they want forever.
The purpose of life is to give everyone individually what they always want at the expense of no being - forever.

The biggest problem of life is the, “hey, I don’t want this to be happening” problem for everyone.

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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:14 pm

You might want to ask yourself if you really like that pinky toe. It’s better to lose it.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:17 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:You might want to ask yourself if you really like that pinky toe. It’s better to lose it.


Now you’re threatening me bodily harm.

Here’s the deal. I’ve been patient with you even though you’ve barely responded to about 20 posts of mine. I just respond to what you write.

You could not pass a Turing test.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:23 pm

No I meant that you should cut your own pinky toe off. Only if you want to, though. But it’s better if you just don’t stick it in the ocean of consent violation. It’s actually a black hole. Reeeally hard to get out once you’re in even a little.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:29 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:No I meant that you should cut your own pinky toe off. Only if you want to, though. But it’s better if you just don’t stick it in the ocean of consent violation. It’s actually a black hole. Reeeally hard to get out once you’re in even a little.


You have no idea what you’re saying.

In a reality where everyone gets everything they want at nobodies expense, and they are curious why the reality is constructed that way...

They have the option to test consent violation and immediately say “fuck no!” And it stops instantly.

I know why reality needs to be that way... I don’t have to dip my toe in that pool for a fraction of a second... but some people do.

You define freewill and freedom as being able to violate consent.

Nobody can endure that. Nobody.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:34 pm

Have you taken notice of the state of the world lately? You ever trace that back to its origin? C’mon Ec you’re a fricken genius.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:41 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Have you taken notice of the state of the world lately? You ever trace that back to its origin? C’mon Ec you’re a fricken genius.


The world as we know it is people hurting others because existence hurts them... monkey see, monkey do. They’re just monkeys. With no sight. They’re just parrots, parroting existence as it actually is.

They are not human. And they will do this forever.

I don’t mean to dehumanize people like every dictatorship in the world has done...

I want to make them a human by reaching down into them without torment or violence.

Humans ... don’t act like animals in spirit.

They see what existence is doing, and stand against it, instead of copying it.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:49 pm

They’re already human. They need a real More, which only works when they worship God in Spirit & Truth, according to His image in them (Love).

You can’t force it. It ceases to be love. Even if well-intended.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:55 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:They’re already human. They need a real More, which only works when they worship God in Spirit & Truth, according to His image in them (Love).

You can’t force it. It ceases to be love. Even if well-intended.


The only way you can really do it is to dip their toe for a fraction of a second into real hell (no bodily harm).

Why waste time?

Why waste spirit?

We’ve been doing that for too long.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:57 pm

Alright, I think that if you said that in a video I would have an easier time believing it came from a genius. As for me…I need to go get ready, because I’m gonna go hang out with my mom.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:25 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Alright, I think that if you said that in a video I would have an easier time believing it came from a genius. As for me…I need to go get ready, because I’m gonna go hang out with my mom.


I thought I was the smartest person who’d ever lived on earth.

And then the spirit world hit me like a freight train and I realized I knew nothing.

Suddenly, I was at the bottom and the learning curve was off the charts.

So I gave up my earthly pursuits and devoted 100% of my time and intelligence to spirit and spirit alone.

I excelled at that too. You’re speaking to someone who excelled at both worlds. Genius is not a word we use in the spirit world.

Someone can change the whole cosmos by literally biting their finger nails... because they’ve practiced it so long.

Do not underestimate people.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:11 am

I just deleted this whole big thing.

Thanks for listening, lol.
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Ichthus77 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:28 am

Sculptor wrote:
felix dakat wrote:
Sculptor wrote:Clearly seeing things in racist terms seems to be your problem not mine.

I do not give a rats arse about "blood guilt". I would never even use such a term.
But thank you for withdrawing your comment "The Romans killed Jesus".

There is no doubt that it was the Jewish authorities that wanted to nail some sense into the poor boy and the mob that preferred Barabas over Jesus.


Yes I dropped the “the” in front of Romans.
We substantially agree and yet you are hostile and accusatory. I wonder why.


You started flinging the dirt first, yet you pretend innocence.

My opening gambit was as follows:

The Jewish authority executed Jesus. Pilate washed his hands.
As I remember, although there are discrepant accounts, he was tried by the Sanhedrin for claiming to be King of the Jews, and for false teachings.
But defo political.


And yet you accuse me of racism, and were clumsy enough to say repeatedly "the Romans killed Jesus".

Please accept a large URMMMPPH!


This is good. https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writing ... is-passion
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Re: A little evidence for those religious Conservaturds

Postby Sculptor » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:19 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:
Sculptor wrote:
felix dakat wrote:
Yes I dropped the “the” in front of Romans.
We substantially agree and yet you are hostile and accusatory. I wonder why.


You started flinging the dirt first, yet you pretend innocence.

My opening gambit was as follows:

The Jewish authority executed Jesus. Pilate washed his hands.
As I remember, although there are discrepant accounts, he was tried by the Sanhedrin for claiming to be King of the Jews, and for false teachings.
But defo political.


And yet you accuse me of racism, and were clumsy enough to say repeatedly "the Romans killed Jesus".

Please accept a large URMMMPPH!


This is good. https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writing ... is-passion


Please accept another even larger URMMMPPH!
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