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My hard earned wisdom

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:49 pm

I’ve said this in other threads. I’m compiling it all here.

There are no two heavens or hell realms alike. Everyone has a unique one.

In order to reach an infinite number of spirits, a spirit can only add a patch to the eternal form realm; the realm which allows us to understand, perceive. All beings need it to perceive, to discern.

The eternal form realm is the only place where existence isn’t sentient. Everything else is sentient.

Everyone will eventually realize that co sharing a reality doesn’t work forever.

The patch is designed in a very complex way to reflect the actual spirits (untold infinities) in the way you want it forever. The raw material to keep you entertained is already there and infinite. You’ll never exhaust it.

It’s impossible to harm a reflected spirit.

Which means when you change automatically the shape of the mirror to suit your needs... you can’t harm that spirit. Forever.

By putting the patch in the eternal form realm, it’s possible for an empath to go to their individual heaven forever and not be worried about the suffering of others forever.

When the patch is put in, it will embed in every spirit simultaneously.
The purpose of life is to give everyone individually what they always want at the expense of no being - forever.

The biggest problem of life is the, “hey, I don’t want this to be happening” problem for everyone.

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Re: My hard earned wisdom

Postby iambiguous » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:04 pm

Ecmandu wrote:I’ve said this in other threads. I’m compiling it all here.

There are no two heavens or hell realms alike. Everyone has a unique one.

In order to reach an infinite number of spirits, a spirit can only add a patch to the eternal form realm; the realm which allows us to understand, perceive. All beings need it to perceive, to discern.

The eternal form realm is the only place where existence isn’t sentient. Everything else is sentient.

Everyone will eventually realize that co sharing a reality doesn’t work forever.

The patch is designed in a very complex way to reflect the actual spirits (untold infinities) in the way you want it forever. The raw material to keep you entertained is already there and infinite. You’ll never exhaust it.

It’s impossible to harm a reflected spirit.

Which means when you change automatically the shape of the mirror to suit your needs... you can’t harm that spirit. Forever.

By putting the patch in the eternal form realm, it’s possible for an empath to go to their individual heaven forever and not be worried about the suffering of others forever.

When the patch is put in, it will embed in every spirit simultaneously.


Let's explore this further...

1] a demonstrable proof of the existence of your patch
2] addressing the fact that down through the ages any number of patches have been proposed as the one true patch...why yours?
3] addressing the profoundly problematic role that dasein plays in predisposing any particular individual to champion one patch rather than another
4] the questions that revolve around human pain and suffering and your patch

Given particular contexts of course. Of your own choosing.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: My hard earned wisdom

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:24 pm

iambiguous wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:I’ve said this in other threads. I’m compiling it all here.

There are no two heavens or hell realms alike. Everyone has a unique one.

In order to reach an infinite number of spirits, a spirit can only add a patch to the eternal form realm; the realm which allows us to understand, perceive. All beings need it to perceive, to discern.

The eternal form realm is the only place where existence isn’t sentient. Everything else is sentient.

Everyone will eventually realize that co sharing a reality doesn’t work forever.

The patch is designed in a very complex way to reflect the actual spirits (untold infinities) in the way you want it forever. The raw material to keep you entertained is already there and infinite. You’ll never exhaust it.

It’s impossible to harm a reflected spirit.

Which means when you change automatically the shape of the mirror to suit your needs... you can’t harm that spirit. Forever.

By putting the patch in the eternal form realm, it’s possible for an empath to go to their individual heaven forever and not be worried about the suffering of others forever.

When the patch is put in, it will embed in every spirit simultaneously.


Let's explore this further...

1] a demonstrable proof of the existence of your patch
2] addressing the fact that down through the ages any number of patches have been proposed as the one true patch...why yours?
3] addressing the profoundly problematic role that dasein plays in predisposing any particular individual to champion one patch rather than another
4] the questions that revolve around human pain and suffering and your patch

Given particular contexts of course. Of your own choosing.


Thanks for giving a shit iambiguous.

My patch is still in the reality test mode. It needs to be perfect. I think it is, but I have to run some other proofs.

The nature of the patch is that you come to it on your own terms. It’s non invasive. You may spend a day to get there or a billion zillion years to get there.

Everyone will eventually get there.

The purpose of life is for everyone to get everything they want forever at nobodies expense.

The problem of life is to solve the, “I don’t want this to be happening!” Problem for all beings.

It’s that simple.

My patch is designed to solve this problem.

I even solved it for sadists.

I’m still running the beta tests.

Nobody wants their consent violated (by definition).

What I’m talking about is not funny to me. Ask me anything you want.

Understand my credo:

You are not the greatest until everyone is the greatest...

And everyone is not only different, but in many cases, vastly different and diametrically opposed to you.

It’s not about changing them. But it is about protecting anyone from the, “I don’t want this to be happening to me” problem.
The purpose of life is to give everyone individually what they always want at the expense of no being - forever.

The biggest problem of life is the, “hey, I don’t want this to be happening” problem for everyone.

Welcome to thinking.
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Re: My hard earned wisdom

Postby iambiguous » Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:29 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
Thanks for giving a shit iambiguous.

My patch is still in the reality test mode. It needs to be perfect. I think it is, but I have to run some other proofs.


Can you describe in some detail what this patch consists of? Is it able to be shown to us in one of your videos?

You can put a patch on a tire...it's easy to visualize that. How about your patch? Is it an actual "thing" or is it just something that you think up "In your head" and apply...psychologically? spiritually?

Ecmandu wrote:The nature of the patch is that you come to it on your own terms. It’s non invasive. You may spend a day to get there or a billion zillion years to get there.


Again, though, how would you go about actually demonstrating it...you patching yourself for example. And if it takes a billion, zillion years...is that an exaggeration? After all, how is taking a billion, zillion years for a mere mortal here on earth to get there not practically the same as having no patch at all?

Ecmandu wrote: Everyone will eventually get there.


The good, the bad and the ugly? How might, say, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin be distinguished from Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy in the patch department?

Ecmandu wrote: The purpose of life is for everyone to get everything they want forever at nobodies expense.


You're telling us there's a patch for that? Okay, how would that work for all practical purposes given a world where unwanted pregnancies occur? Or, once the patch is applied, will there never ever be any more unwanted pregnancies? A patch that capitalists and socialists apply to make all that class struggle stuff disappear? A patch that ends all viral pandemics? All natural disasters? All extinction events?

Ecmandu wrote: The problem of life is to solve the, “I don’t want this to be happening!” Problem for all beings.

It’s that simple.


Well, not if it takes a billion, zillion years for those sort of problems to go away. Or, rather, that would still be a problem for me. After all, zillion is not even a determined number. It's way out there in the vicinity of infinity.

Ecmandu wrote: My patch is designed to solve this problem.

I even solved it for sadists.

I’m still running the beta tests.


More details please.

Ecmandu wrote: Nobody wants their consent violated (by definition).


Still unclear about that. I can easily picture someone being violated who does not give their consent to someone. "Don't do that!", but they do it anyway.

But cite some examples from your own life where you gave your consent to others to do things but they violated that?

Ecmandu wrote: What I’m talking about is not funny to me. Ask me anything you want.


Well, I've asked you things from other threads...

Okay, let's bring this down to earth.

Given a particular set of circumstances that revolve around your own beliefs pertaining to Eternal Punishment and Time, let's explore what it means to have a false "I".

And, given that context, how, in turn, would you differentiate a small "h" hell from the big H Hell that most Christians here speak of.


And we not nowhere.

Or, as I have noted in turn:

"We are after death as we’re speaking. We’ve always been after death."

You post things like this all the time. And you've spoken to God and the Devil and the Buddha.

Then when challenged to actually demonstrate what you believe in that head of yours is true you'll often come up with something even more outlandish.

From my frame of mind, you either have a mental "condition" such that noting these outrageous things is simply beyond your control -- you hear voices? -- or this is all just part of a character that you play here for your own amusement.

And for whatever reason.

On the other hand, you are also able to post things like...

"We are pattern seeking animals (we’re also more than animals - but that’s beside the point) that assess risk and attempt to neutralize risk in self and others."

...that seem perfectly rational.

So, to the extent you are able or willing to understand it yourself, which one is it?


Let's explore these things in reference to the patch.

Ecmandu wrote: Understand my credo:

You are not the greatest until everyone is the greatest...

And everyone is not only different, but in many cases, vastly different and diametrically opposed to you.

It’s not about changing them. But it is about protecting anyone from the, “I don’t want this to be happening to me” problem.


Okay, given a particular context where each of us as individuals have different [conflicting] assessments of what it means to be great -- the greatest fascist, the greatest anarchist, the greatest Communist, the greatest liberal, the greatest conservative, the greatest Christian, the greatest Buddhist etc. -- let's explore the patch then.

If those on either end of the moral and political spectrum aren't changed then what can change?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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Re: My hard earned wisdom

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:06 pm

The patch I intend to add to the eternal form realm is a universe reflection patch.

You reflect spirits to your desire manifestation system instead of interacting in ANY way with the ACTUAL spirit. It’s as hyper realistic as this reality, or any reality you want with one exception ... nobody can be harmed in their own universe. In fact. Everything goes everyway they want it forever.

In a universe with another ACTUAL spirit (not a reflected spirit - which is a non sentient perfect replica of the actual spirit - changed at your will and your will alone - should you choose so)... over the course of forever... both of those spirits will eventually be hurt against their will forever.

The ONLY way to solve this problem is to give each spirit their own universe forever... while using hyperdimensional mirrors (infinite number of spirit reflections (instead of the actual spirit))

Now. Since this isn’t a dictatorship. The patch is designed to allow people on their own terms to realize why this is the best solution to the meta problem of consent.

It’s going to take some people longer than others.
The purpose of life is to give everyone individually what they always want at the expense of no being - forever.

The biggest problem of life is the, “hey, I don’t want this to be happening” problem for everyone.

Welcome to thinking.
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Re: My hard earned wisdom

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:17 pm

I say, all wisdom is "hard earned"
the only wisdom worth receiving is the wisdom
we fought to know.... all wisdom.. without exception
is "hard won"...

Kropotkin
Now if only I could get the other "members of the collection of truth"
to put me on ignore, life would be good..

PK
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Re: My hard earned wisdom

Postby iambiguous » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:31 am

Ecmandu wrote:The patch I intend to add to the eternal form realm is a universe reflection patch.

You reflect spirits to your desire manifestation system instead of interacting in ANY way with the ACTUAL spirit. It’s as hyper realistic as this reality, or any reality you want with one exception ... nobody can be harmed in their own universe. In fact. Everything goes everyway they want it forever.

In a universe with another ACTUAL spirit (not a reflected spirit - which is a non sentient perfect replica of the actual spirit - changed at your will and your will alone - should you choose so)... over the course of forever... both of those spirits will eventually be hurt against their will forever.

The ONLY way to solve this problem is to give each spirit their own universe forever... while using hyperdimensional mirrors (infinite number of spirit reflections (instead of the actual spirit))

Now. Since this isn’t a dictatorship. The patch is designed to allow people on their own terms to realize why this is the best solution to the meta problem of consent.

It’s going to take some people longer than others.


This is entirely what I expected. But now that you are vacating ILP, sure, let's just leave it at that.

Here's the thing though...

You think all of these truly bizarre thoughts that in no way are you able to actually demonstrate to us beyond the fact of noting them itself. That you believe them may or may not be a cause for concern. As long as you can subsist from day to day in today's world, well, that is an accomplishment in and of itself.

And, who knows, maybe you will find those folks who have a patch all their own. The ones we are more familiar with.

They're in the book.

And, no, not her book.

And certainly not Meno's.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=176529
Then here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 5&t=185296
And here: http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 1&t=194382

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