Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:16 pm

I don’t beg to agree.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:28 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:I don’t beg to agree.


Ichthus. There is no savior in the sense you’re trying to conjure one.

Placing a patch in analog so you all have more options is not me being a messiah.

It’s me letting everyone do whatever the fuck they want while I do whatever the fuck I want without coming back here.

Your concept of all this is primitive.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:11 am

Ecmandu wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Even if my ILP account is hacked.

It doesn’t matter to me now.

This has just come to being only me and all existence.


I just want to clarify this. You can’t patch existence analog on an internet board. That can only be done with your spirit.




I will rudely return here a moment . it try to identify spirit with soul and as a partner of crime in a silver of hope that yes. Some things can actually be parched up. May a vicious dog bite me if not telling the truth. And I me too are waiting to dog. Without a sviveling doubt.

So get in with it.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:40 am

Meno_ wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:Even if my ILP account is hacked.

It doesn’t matter to me now.

This has just come to being only me and all existence.


I just want to clarify this. You can’t patch existence analog on an internet board. That can only be done with your spirit.




I will rudely return here a moment . it try to identify spirit with soul and as a partner of crime in a silver of hope that yes. Some things can actually be parched up. May a vicious dog bite me if not telling the truth. And I me too are waiting to dog. Without a sviveling doubt.

So get in with it.


Existence is evil. I’d expect you to say something evil to me and yourself.

Westerners are familiar with, “say, speak, hear no evil”

Confucius actually wrote this...

There were 4 edicts.

The 4th one was, “do no evil”

That didn’t make it to western culture.

Western culture has only the three monkeys.

Anyways. All existence is evil. So you give existence the middle finger and be perfect goodness, or at least try to be the best person you can.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:34 am

Ec,


Actually for the West few went beyond 1.or 2 the most. The monkey with one hand up the other down represents a bow from the East to the West. I am with them there, cause the monkey alternates hands, one up one down. O saw that in the Suanese Buddhist temple. And here is my take:

It's,like the ying-yang representation and fits in with my grounding between the east and west, as far as peripheral representations go, I can not mess with an benevolent existence of any other, while bemoaning a personal malfunction.

I really think that generalizing all of existence in hell bound terns restricts entrance when things go sour.

Like in shawls man and superman , the hell is visited as a place of temporary abode, and not a place to erect a glass house while hurling stones into angelic crystal palaces up above.

So I may erect the middle finger toward upwards, but immediately realize the gross mistake, in fear of a terrible damage caused by a Boulder coming down and destroying my place.

I'd need to clean ir up, and carry the dawn thing up to throw a curve ball with it and come off the mountain, waiting for the next Salvo.

So You are both right abd wrong, but I found the courage to get over it, at least metaphorically.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:05 am

I did a typo meno.

It’s speak, SEE and hear no evil.

And of course the 4th edict was do no evil. That one didn’t get to western culture.

The west simply has, “do no harm”

That’s not in the Bible by the way...

That’s from Ancient Greece.

That’s the standard I hold myself to.

I know it’s impossible here...

That’s why I’m structurally changing existence.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:51 am

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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:07 am

Ichthus77 wrote:Romans 13:10

https://biblehub.com/romans/13-10.htm

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Well. Then god should keep his own law.

Unfortunately. I’m left cleaning up the mess.

There’s a context here.

The Greeks when they said, “do no harm” were secularists... some were pagans. Some even believed in a heavenly king.

Thousands of years later, we’re all still doing harm.

These primitive people didn’t know that hydrochloric acid in our stomachs were murdering billions of innocent bacteria who weren’t even trying to harm us everyday so I could type this simple post and that their lives are as valuable as ours, and we can’t stop it no matter how much we want to.

Ichthus. I’m going to change existence structurally and there’s nothing you can do about it.

I know you want to be evil forever.

I have different ideas for my life...

Your book is garbage.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:15 am

You want God to keep his own garbage? He did & does.

It’s what makes it descriptive & not merely prescriptive.

One God’s garbage is another man’s treasure. That’s why we’re supposed to throw our treasures away up in heaven.

Not like Sputnik.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:15 am

Ecmandu wrote:I did a typo meno.

It’s speak, SEE and hear no evil.

And of course the 4th edict was do no evil. That one didn’t get to western culture.

The west simply has, “do no harm”

That’s not in the Bible by the way...

That’s from Ancient Greece.

That’s the standard I hold myself to.

I know it’s impossible here...

That’s why I’m structurally changing existence.




Sure Ec, I notice Your consistent effort in that endeavor, however the compelling reason to the efficacy to that effort i( with a view to the whole tree) is .that the separation of parts is a necessary demonstration to believers, to whose benefit such change must be illustrated- as fir example correlating the roots with the trunk with the fruit; so as to create a wholistic identity with universal truth.


For whom such change You propose must be at least as convincing , as the original, nMely the biblical, with which an unbroken continuity must be sustained.

The trunk of the tree is the veritable literal one into which unnecessary baggage must be thrown asunder for reasonable causes.

You may create a 3rd Covenant, rather the simulated identifiable copy cat of the old one.

But at the same time I understand an ambiguous contention to take with You other such undesirables, as not fitting to carry on the work, for even those with no containable substantive to replace the only credible idea which has been workable functional to this point, can not be undone as with the stroke of a pen.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:22 am

Ichthus77 wrote:You want God to keep his own garbage? He did & does.

It’s what makes it descriptive & not merely prescriptive.

One God’s garbage is another man’s treasure. That’s why we’re supposed to throw our treasures away up in heaven.

Not like Sputnik.


Anyone who creates and holds garbage is insane.

Especially with the amount of wisdom I have now.

You’re just apologetics. Ichthus it’s not cool anymore.

You can’t keep apologizing for god.

Meno. There’s no covenant here.

I’m changing existence.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:29 am

God doesn’t make garbage. He is garbage. And when we throw our treasures away up in heaven, it was already there.

Once you get that, all the trash turns to treasure like on Shallow Hal. But the treasure stays treasure even though it’s like filthy rags.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:33 am

Ichthus77 wrote:God doesn’t make garbage. He is garbage. And when we throw our treasures away up in heaven, it was already there.

Once you get that, all the trash turns to treasure like on Shallow Hal. But the treasure stays treasure even though it’s like filthy rags.


I don’t think you understand. Life is not a Nintendo game to me. I can win that game if I want.

There are things way more important than that Nintendo game.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:35 am

psshhh like what
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:40 am

Ichthus77 wrote:psshhh like what


Like. Giving a shit. I hurt if anybody suffers.

Explain to me what my heaven is in your sociopathic spirit and your sociopathic Nintendo game.

Go on. Explain it to me.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:21 am

Your heaven is whatever you want that also doesn’t hurt other people.

That’s a wide range of possibilities…

Only you can pick the ones you prefer.

Or even make ‘em.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:41 am

Ichthus77 wrote:God doesn’t make garbage. He is garbage. And when we throw our treasures away up in heaven, it was already there.

Once you get that, all the trash turns to treasure like on Shallow Hal. But the treasure stays treasure even though it’s like filthy rags.


It's never been trash then
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Meno_ » Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:42 am

Meno_ wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:God doesn’t make garbage. He is garbage. And when we throw our treasures away up in heaven, it was already there.

Once you get that, all the trash turns to treasure like on Shallow Hal. But the treasure stays treasure even though it’s like filthy rags.


It's never been trash then






Or it's like it has always been treasured
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:42 am

Ierrillus had his chance to explain Blasphemy ....he failed.

Blasphemy is to speak against God, as-if the Mortal mind has the audacity to speak Truth fluidly and powerfully.

This is the Reason-why, the Cause, that in the Abrahamic religions, it is Outlawed and Illegal to speak the Name of God, or in Islam today, to depict God's visage, as these taint and corrupt the Word of God viscerally and immediately.


It's like walking into somebody's house, pissing and shitting on their rug, their most valuable possession.

Blaspheme is a Sin, because a person actually speaks against Himself.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:43 pm

Meno_ wrote:
Meno_ wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:God doesn’t make garbage. He is garbage. And when we throw our treasures away up in heaven, it was already there.

Once you get that, all the trash turns to treasure like on Shallow Hal. But the treasure stays treasure even though it’s like filthy rags.


It's never been trash then






Or it's like it has always been treasured


Meno_ sees.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:57 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Ierrillus had his chance to explain Blasphemy ....he failed.

Blasphemy is to speak against God, as-if the Mortal mind has the audacity to speak Truth fluidly and powerfully.

This is the Reason-why, the Cause, that in the Abrahamic religions, it is Outlawed and Illegal to speak the Name of God, or in Islam today, to depict God's visage, as these taint and corrupt the Word of God viscerally and immediately.


It's like walking into somebody's house, pissing and shitting on their rug, their most valuable possession.

Blaspheme is a Sin, because a person actually speaks against Himself.


In other news, I named a Super Nintendo Sim City after you. First time (that I recall) using the unlimited money hack. Once I build it out completely I want to see how long to Megalopolis from its current position of Capital. (Update: went to Metropolis in 4 months.)

You should be as flattered as I was to learn my high school buddy Caleb named a strain of pot after me.

P.s. “Human capital” … there’s blasphemy for you.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ierrellus » Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:50 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Ierrillus had his chance to explain Blasphemy ....he failed.

Blasphemy is to speak against God, as-if the Mortal mind has the audacity to speak Truth fluidly and powerfully.

This is the Reason-why, the Cause, that in the Abrahamic religions, it is Outlawed and Illegal to speak the Name of God, or in Islam today, to depict God's visage, as these taint and corrupt the Word of God viscerally and immediately.


It's like walking into somebody's house, pissing and shitting on their rug, their most valuable possession.

Blaspheme is a Sin, because a person actually speaks against Himself.

There is a vast difference between failed to and chose not to.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:47 pm

Blasphemy is an unacceptable word.

The implications are eternal damnation.

No omnipotent loving creator of everything would even make blasphemy possible.

Blasphemy is eternal revenge upon an offense. It’s revenge.

So. When you take the god concept, god is the only blasphemer.

Fortunately for god, we’re nicer than god.

I’d just disempower and isolate. No hell realm there.

If being disempowered and isolated is what you want forever instead of relationship... no harm no foul.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ichthus77 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:06 pm

We’ve discussed all of this. Pretty sure.
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Re: Ierrillus. Tell me what blasphemy is.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:16 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:We’ve discussed all of this. Pretty sure.


Not exactly in those words.

If anyone suffers for even one second, I suffer.

I’m tired of all apologetics for suffering that you do every moment of every day, trying to put a positive spin on it. Loyalty to the perfect dictator, correct? Can’t question what they do, to you and others? Correct?

I’m going to change existence structurally. And when I do it, I’m going to think of you as well. I’ll give you your perfect dictator that you can’t question.

All the evil in your life will be perfect and good.

You can have it.
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